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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Light Blender</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I am just about to release a beta of version 4.1 that features a very large addition to Sagelight call the Light Blender.</p>
<p>See the example below.  I also posted some more before & after example pictures on the Facebook page at <a href="http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href='http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit</a></span></a></p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d mention it here, since I am just not ready to release it today and should have a version out by tomorrow, the next day at the latest.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#ff6600;"><strong>A Small Introduction to the Light Blender</strong></span></h2>
<p>I&#8217;ll be explaining more about it when I release it, but it turned out to be a very large undertaking, and the result is a set of tools in Sagelight that really represents an entire program within a program, much like a number of other tools in Sagelight.</p>
<p>The Light Blender is based on some technology I developed (and then abandoned) last year around Ansel Adams&#8217;  Zone System methodology and a technique called Painting with Light.  Both Zone Masking and Painting with Light had their problems, as I saw them, and the Light Blender basically merges the two concepts in a way that works out very well.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, the Zone Masking system I wanted to implement didn&#8217;t work out for one reason: Halos!   This is a common and pervasive problem with image-editing.  Since I wanted each zone to be a different layer, when the layers overlapped, you could not avoid generating halos.</p>
<p>Painting with Light, on the other hand, is very nice to work with, but it is also very difficult &#8212; you have to use a brush and be very precise.   I had this experience, and someone mentioned it the other day: you can spend hours with the Paint with Light methodology just to get a similar result you could get more easily by other methods.  You really have to understand what is going on and then it is still hard to deal with &#8212; it just requires a bit of experience to do it right (I think that last line may generate some comments&#8230;)</p>
<p>The Light Blender allows you to play with the light in many different ways.  You can brighten up a very dark picture, or deepen a bright picture.  You can just reorganize the light of your image with a few controls.  You can work with an easy set of controls, or move on to a set of controls that allow you to blend and change the light while avoiding halos or completely eliminating them.</p>
<p>The main thing is that it is done fairly easily without a lot of work and with a lot of control.  Here is one example:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/lb-dog.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="600" /></p>
<p><strong>Original Image</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/lb-dog-result.jpg" alt="" width="411" height="614" /></p>
<p><strong>Brightened Image after using the Light Blender with just a few slider movements.</strong></p>
<p>This is just one small aspect of the Light Blender.  See more examples at: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit"><span style="color:#0000ff;">www.facebook.com/SageEdit</span></a></p>
<p>I should have a release out by tomorrow sometime.</p>
<p><span style="color:#808080;">picture credit</span>: Mike Baird</p>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Introducing the LightBlender – Part I (a look at the LightBlender)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Version 4.1 (beta) is now available, which features the LightBlender. See the next blog entry for the details and location of version 4.1 (beta).</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Sagelight LightBlender (version 1.0)</span></h1>
<p><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">(The LightBlender comes with Sagelight and is located in the PowerBox)</span></strong></p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-sample.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>The Light Blender is a powerful “<em>program within a program</em>”-level tool in Sagelight that allows you to adjust and manipulate the light in your image in many different ways.  It can help you brighten shadows, add or remove contrast, make small changes, dramatic changes, and make surrealistic images.</p>
<p>This article has many different examples, all of which are clickable to their larger sizes – the larger-sized examples is important because one of the main elements of the LightBlender is that it allows you to get these powerful changes without halo effects and without blowing out highlights, which is a typical problem when dealing with bring out the light in your image.  At the larger sizes, you can inspect the results and see how well the LightBlender is doing.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">LightBlender Examples and Descriptions</span></h1>
<p>Normally this is the wrong order, but I am going to put all examples below before I discuss LightBlender.  This is because you can do so much with Light Blender, it’s worth keeping in mind all of the varied examples as I discuss how it works.  Scroll through the examples, and then you can refer back to them as I refer to various elements of the LightBlender.</p>
<p>There are notes about the LightBlender on most examples.</p>
<p>The LightBlender can help in just about all areas of your image, as well as open up new ideas.  The set of examples is fairly small in relation to what the LightBlender can do.  The examples run through a few different types of images and effects you can do with LightBlender.</p>
<p>Below are the examples, split into logical sections where certain aspects of the LightBlender is useful.  They are more-or-less in order of general types of images to more specific types.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Bringing up the Shadows and Brightening Images</span></h1>
<p>One of the most straightforward and general uses for the LightBlender is to bring up the shadows in an image.  Sagelight already has the <em>Smart Light</em> function, which is very useful and still the “go to” tool for brightening up your image and bringing down the highlights.  Sagelight also has the “Fill Light Slider” to bring up the shadows.</p>
<p>The LightBlender extends these  principles.  It works on its own and also works with the Fill Light Slider and Smart Light (read more in the general description section).  In fact, the LightBlender has been carefully crafted to work well with all of Sagelight’s tools, particularly the Fill Light Slider, Definition Sliders, and Vibrance Sliders.  The LightBlender works on the principle of using different blending modes (such as Overlay, Vivid, etc., depending on the setting you choose), and can bring up the light in a way that also keep the colors brilliant.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#000000;">Mono Lake</span></h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/mono-lake-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image (Picture Credit: please let me know who sent it to me!)</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/mono-lake-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After using LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/mono-lake-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>It’s important to note here that this image was also augmented <em>after</em> using the LightBlender.  The LightBlender helps you bring up, down, or otherwise change the light.  It can make an amazing difference, and sets you up to be even more artistic with your image.  As such, this image (and some others – which will be noted as they occur) in its primary result is what the LightBlender was able to do to the image.  That is, the brightness and overall light came from the LightBlender.  Some of the more subtle factors, such as Dodging and Burning and a subtle vignette, were added after the LightBlender was used.  In the case of this image, for example, the LightBlender put me in a great position to do very little work once the LightBlender was used.</p>
<p><strong>For this picture, that really is the notation</strong>: the LightBlender brought it out nicely and then I was able to do just a few things to it to get this result.  All I really had to do is add the vignette and then <em>unevenly</em> dodge and burn the foreground to get the scattered look that looks like a nice uneven (i.e. realistic) tone, as if the sun was coming through some cloud or the texture was even more varied.</p>
<p>As I’ve mentioned in other articles, one of the things that can really subdue an image and really make it less plain and generally work is adding a very subtle vignette.</p>
<h2>Statue</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-pass1.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-pass1-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>This is a good example of a few things going on with the LightBlender:</p>
<ol>
<li><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>No Halos or blown-out highlights</strong></span>. This type of image is very difficult to brighten without halos and without blowing out highlights</li>
<li><span style="color:#3366ff;"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">Low Resolution Source</span></strong></span>. The original source for this image is a highly compressed 8-bit jpeg, and look at how much definition was in the shadows that were so deep the face does not show at all.</li>
<li><span style="color:#3366ff;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>LightBlender retains data</strong></span>.</span> One of the end-results of the LightBlender is that it is able to keep a high quality level when bringing out data from the shadows.</li>
<li><span style="color:#3366ff;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Imagine RAW, or high-quality compression</strong></span>. </span> If this is the sort of definition available in such a low-quality original, imagine what can be brought out of a RAW image, lossless or even a JPEG with maximum quality set.</li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Definition (aka Clarity for Lightroom users) is part of the LightBlender</strong></span>. The LightBlender is located in the Power Box along with the Definition Sliders.  The LightBlender image clearly has a much higher definition to it than the original. The LightBlender, in total, actually consists of the LightBlender controls and the Definition Sliders together.  They’ve been programmed to work together when the LightBlender is active.  It’s a little involved, but basically the Definition Sliders work in a very integral manner with the LightBlender to help the Light Blending along and to achieve great results.</li>
<li><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>LightBlender sets you up for more</strong>.</span> There is definitely a “wow” factor for how this image was able to change this image so drastically in basically one set of controls.  But, its still a little dry.  It’s a <em>technical result</em> in that it really gives me a lot of room to work with it now.</li>
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<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-pass2a.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After Augmentation (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-pass2-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>After I used the LightBlender, I was able to get this result, which really darkened the image even more than it was originally.  I gave it a nice, cool blue hue, a vignette, and otherwise sought to make it moody.  Only this time, I had a lot more to work with and was able to get the dark image I wanted but with the face and hands showing, as well as a whole lot more definition to the image in general – with no halos.</p>
<h2>City Street</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/city-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/city-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/city-new-big.jpg">click here for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>I could have left the sky alone here, but I thought it looked too unnatural to leave it a the same darkness, so I brightened it up a little, too.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Pictures Taken Directly into the Sun </span></h1>
<p>Pictures that are taken with the sun directly in front of the camera deserve their own class.  This is because they traditionally very difficult to deal with.  The LightBlender makes it easier.</p>
<h2>Thanksgiving Day</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/thanksgiving-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image (picture credit: please remind me!)</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/thanksgiving-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/thanksgiving-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>This image is the result after the LightBlender and some other functions to bring out the foreground and subdue the background.  The light factor comes from the LightBlender.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Multiple LightBlender-Pass Images (and Pictures Taken Directly into the Sun, continued)</span></h1>
<p>These next two images are specific examples of how you can use the LightBlender, apply your image, and then use the LightBlender again in another pass.  The first image was also taken directly into the sun.</p>
<h2>Ancient Arch</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-pass1.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (pass 1) (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-pass1-big.jpg">click here for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>Pass 1 looks great and sets up the image for even more work.  It really brought out the rocks in the upper arch nicely, and I’d like to see some more brightness, contrast, and definition.  In this case, we can just use the LightBlender again.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-pass2.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LighBlender (pass 2) (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch2-pass2-big.jpg">click here for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>Now it looks much better.  It has more definition and a nice overall tone.</p>
<p>This image points out a couple things about the LightBlender:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>False Halos</strong>.  When working with bringing out light in pictures, halos often occur.  An interesting thing that happens is false or imaginary halos.  Sometimes a halo will appear that is natural to the picture.  This can be important, because if a natural area is mistaken as a halo, a lot of time can be wasted fixing something that doesn’t need to be fixed.  For example, in this image, the fact that the white area in the middle-left of the picture is not a halo is easily seen, especially since we have the original as the reference.  But, this is not always true.  Sometimes apparent halos appear after the LightBlender has brought out the contrast of the image when these are natural parts of the picture.  You can use the various controls of the LightBlender (especially the Reduce Halos Slider) to determine whether or not it is natural to the image.</li>
<li><strong>Uneven Light</strong>. In somewhat of an example of a “false halo” mentioned above, note the upper arch area and that it is brighter in the middle than it is on the edges.  Sometimes this can be an artifact of light blending in general, but in this image it is not the case.  The original picture shows the same issue – it’s just that it has such a low brightness and contrast it is hard to see.  However, upon inspection, you can see the same light issues in the original.  On the other hand, uneven light can make a picture look much more natural.  As an example, the second pass picture didn’t create the uneven light but it did magnify it as the contrast and brightness was brought out simultaneously.  Realistically, this probably looks better than completely even light which can sometimes give an artificial “HDR” look.</li>
<li><strong>Adjusting Uneven Light</strong>.  Even so, it is very possible to adjust for the uneven light if desired.   Using the LightBlender with the Undo Brush or the Dodge and Burn Brushes are very useful for this.</li>
<li>L<strong>ightBlender sets up the Dodge and Burn Brushes.</strong> The Dodge and Burn brushes turn into very natural resources for use after the LightBlender.  One of the reasons for this is that one of the main uses for the LightBlender is to bring up the shadows and to bring down the highlights.  This removes contrast for the image and basically prepares the image for a much wider range of editing.  For example, notice that pass 1 did exactly that – it reduced contrast and gave me a canvas to work on with a wide range of possibilities.  As it turns out, I just used the LightBlender again for the most part, but I also Dodged and Burned the image here and there.  The Dodge and Burn helps you create contrast <em>where you want it</em>, which is exactly what the LightBlender helps you with.</li>
</ol>
<h2>Gate Lion</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lion-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image (image credit: Paul Lawrence)</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lion-pass1.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender, pass 1 (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lion-pass1-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lion-pass2.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender, pass 2 (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lion-pass2-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>If you’ve looked at other articles I’ve written, you’ve seen this image before.  The first time I wrote about it, I was pointing this image out as an image that was an example of an image that is rather hard to deal with. This particular image is hard to deal with for a couple reasons, most notably the sky can get blown very easily with just about any operation.  Brighten the image, add definition/local contrast; just about anything will kill the sky because it is a bright areas mixed in with very defined dark leaves and branches.  This is a formula for halos or blown-out highlights, so the sky needs to be handled with care.</p>
<p>Another reason this image is hard to deal with is because it has a bright centerpiece surrounded by a dark area.  We want to brighten up the image and keep the contrast all at the same time, while preserving the sky.   This image started off as a RAW image, and, while I haven’t seen the JPEG image, I doubt very much it remained intact as a camera-written jpeg.</p>
<p>In the previous example with this image, I used it to point out the power of the Power Box.</p>
<p>Now that the LightBlender is part of the Power Box, bringing out this image is that much easier. Here were the steps involved in create this image:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Pass one with the Light Blender (as shown) </strong></li>
<li><strong>Pass two with the Light Blender </strong></li>
<li><strong>Small amount of Dodging and Burning (pretty much as shown) </strong></li>
<li><strong>Small amounts of touch ups here and there</strong></li>
</ol>
<p>This image points out another thing about the LightBlender</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Sagelight Vibrance is part of the LightBlender</strong>.  As mentioned earlier, the Definition Sliders is a part of the design of the LightBlender.  If they didn’t already exist when the LightBlender was designed and implemented, they would have needed to be created anyway.  In the same vein, this is true of the Vibrance Slider, too.  It isn’t so much an integral part of it, as much as dark images, or images where you’re reducing contrast tend to look better if you can add some color to it.  As it turns out, the Sagelight Vibrance Slider in the Power Box works great for this, and typically works much better than just adding saturation.  So, the LightBlender consists of the LightBlender controls, the Definition Sliders, and the Vibrance Controls.  Or, the Power Box just encapsulates all of it.  Either way, the controls work very well together.</li>
</ol>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Subtle Tones, Skin Tones and Black and White Images</span></h1>
<p>The examples so far have introduced some drastic changes to the samples shown, adding brightness and contrast.  Many more examples show a lot of work with the same sort of philosophy because that is a popular thing to do with images.</p>
<p>Adding subtlety to images is also a strength of the LightBlender.  The LightBlender is great for bringing out elements in images and is very good for bringing down highlights and bright skin tones. It also turns out that the LightBlender is great for black and white images.</p>
<h2>Dolphins</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dolphins-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dolphins-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dolphins-new-big.pg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>The Lightblender was used to bring down the brightness but to also bring up the shadows while keeping the contrast reduced. The end result is a much more colorful image (see note below) that adds a lot more detail to the dolphins.</p>
<p>This image points out an interesting factor with the LightBlender</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>The LightBlender can Deepen Color</strong>. The fact that the LightBlender turned the water to such a deep blue was fairly surprising.  It turned out that the deep blue is the color in the image corresponding to the lower light level.  You can adjust this with the LightBlender controls.  The end-result is changing the image from a mid-day image to a late-afternoon image. Note that the colors of the dolphins deepened, as well.</li>
<li><strong>The Color can be Blended Back into the original image</strong>. Since the color is the natural color for the image, a great side-effect of this is that you can blend the image back into the original very naturally (i.e. with the Undo Brush).  Wanting to blend the result image back into the previous or original image happens often.  However, to get deep colors, this can mean masking and otherwise changing the color and the light, which makes blending back in difficult and can lead to unnatural results.  The benefit of the LightBlender keeping the correct, though more saturated color (due to the lower light level) is that you can blend it back into the original image much more naturally, because the color will blend back in accurately with the light changes.</li>
</ol>
<h2>Mohammed Ali</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/ali-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/ali-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/ali-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>As mentioned above, it turns out that the LightBlender is very suited towards black-and-white images.  This image, for example, was adjusted with the LightBlender, and then the noise in the upper-left was removed with the Image Smoothing function in Sagelight.  The result is a very nice black-and-white image with subtle tones and high definition.</p>
<p>notes:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>This (and the next picture) are examples of very low-resolution, highly-compressed pictures</strong>.  This was more-or-less done on purpose to show how the LightBlender keeps the quality very high as it adjusts the light dramatically.</li>
</ol>
<h2>Restoration</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/colorize-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/colorize-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After Light Blender (and then some) (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/colorize-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>This image points out a couple things about the LightBlender:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>The LightBlender helps set a picture up for further editing with other tools.</strong> Once the cracks and tears were removed from the image, the Lightblender was used to bring the shadows and highlights in the image to a more natural look.</li>
<li><strong>Sagelight is a multi-level, multi-faceted image editor</strong>.  The Light Blender adds to the large volume of tools already in Sagelight, and can help make the most out of what is already there.</li>
</ol>
<h2>Flower</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/flower-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/flower-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/flower-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>This is another image I’ve used in another article.  This turned out to be a good example of reducing the light while keeping the contrast low.  This image has more contrast than the original, but it is also a very light touch.  It’s a little hard to see in the thumbnail, but you can see the larger image to see how the LightBlender brought down the light but still kept the shadows a little higher to keep the definition in those areas.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Portraits and People</span></h1>
<p>The LightBlender is great for dealing with portraits, either in bringing out the definition in a picture or providing for or setting up various effects.</p>
<h2>Homeless Man</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/smiling-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/smiling-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/smiling-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>This is an example of taking a dark picture and bringing out the definition.  The larger picture provides much more detail.</p>
<p>The LightBlender really brought out the definition, and I purposely made this a high-contrast picture to bring out the details of the man’s face and expression.  The beard, for example, really shows up now, as well as the blemishes which really are an integral part of the picture and were subdued before.</p>
<p>This picture now has almost a 3-d effect on the 2-d monitor.</p>
<h2>Guy in Airplane Lavatory</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/guy-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/guy-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (et. al) (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/guy-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>With this image, I was just playing with different aspects of Sagelight, such as the Color Contrast and Blending controls.  The LightBlender set up the initial deepening of the contrast without killing the highlights.  I also added some monochromatic noise.</p>
<p>The reason I liked this picture is because I added two vignettes, around each face, and now the picture in the mirror looks like his evil twin staring back at him.  Strangely, the man in the mirror not only has a sneer the man on the left doesn’t have, but he also seems more in control, and seems as if he is peeking around the corner with some ulterior motive.  It was a strange juxtaposition, and now when I look at the picture, I see the man in the mirror looking at the man in the bathroom, not the other way around.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">The Dramatic (and other various images)</span></h1>
<p>This sections presents some various examples using the LightBlender, many of which have a flair for the dramatic statement.</p>
<h2>The Cat</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/cat-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/cat-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After Light Blender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/cat-new-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>Now “<strong><em>Evil Cat</em></strong>”</p>
<p>This image was made with two passes of the LightBlender.  One pass was for the overall tone, and the second pass was specific to the eyes – to bring out the reflections and to make the image that much more dramatic.</p>
<h2>Stunt Planes</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/planes-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/planes-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/planes-new-big.jpg">click for larger image</a>)</p>
<p>A couple points with this image:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>No Halos</strong>. This image really works well and couldn’t work as well with a larger feather or with halos.  With Halos, the image wouldn’t work, and it was important to have an even tone across the clouds.  This represents a very technically challenging image.</li>
<li><strong>The People are not falling</strong>.  If you click on the larger image, you’ll see the people are attached to the plane.  Just thought I should mention that.</li>
</ol>
<h2>HDR Arch</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/arch-new-big.jpg">click for larger size)</a></p>
<p>Notes:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>LightBlender as HDR</strong>. The LightBlender (when using the more advanced features such as the Halo Reduction) is technically an HDR tool.  It is not promoted too much because its real purpose is to help you with creating realistic images. But, this image turned out well, and I left some haloing in on purpose to give it an artificial HDR feel, and because I was just experimenting with it.</li>
<li><strong>Real HDR</strong>.  By the same token, you can use “real HDR” techniques in the LightBlender to accomplish some surreal and photo-realistic effects outside the range of the typical process. The picture of the homeless man above, for example, uses some of those to bring out a very details, somewhat surreal quality.  I will be writing some articles in this specific subject.</li>
</ol>
<h2>HDR Docks</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dock-org.jpg" alt="" width="509" height="379" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dock-new.jpg" alt="" width="509" height="379" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dock-new-big.jpg">click for large size</a>)</p>
<p>Another HDR approach to the LightBlender.  As mentioned, though its not its main purpose, the LightBlender is capable of a very wide range of changes to your image, including images like the HDR-look above.</p>
<h2>Medieval Girl</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/girl-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/girl-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/girl-new-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>In many ways, this image represents nothing special</strong>.  But, that’s exactly the point with a lot of what the LightBlender can do.  While the LightBlender is very powerful and there is a natural tendency to show examples of its power, it can also be used as a tool to do some fairly easy things, such as bringing out the definition and clarity in this picture.</li>
</ol>
<p>The end-result is a picture that has a lot of color and much more of a 3-D effect that the original.  I focused on the reds in the wall, the woman’s hair, and the girl’s dress and complexion (and, to some extent, the red in the bricks) to give this picture a theme.</p>
<p>This operation is very easy with the LightBlender, and the LightBlender, an addition to its more powerful elements, is a great “go to” tool for general editing.</p>
<h2>Condor</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/condor-old.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/condor-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/condor-new-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>This image represents how you can really get definition from an image.  This image has a totally different look than the original image. The LightBlender was used in two passes, one to get the overall result, and one more to bring out the eye.</p>
<p>The detail in the eye is really the LightBlender comment for this example – the eye really makes a difference, especially for such a small part of the picture.</p>
<h2>Tiger Cub (Artistic Example)</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/tigercub-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/tigercub-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/tigercub-new-big.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>This image is a good example of how different an image can be that is not so apparent.  The LightBlender was used to bring the light down quite a bit on the tiger cub while keeping the contrast at a nice level.  It was also used to bring out the eyes.  It turns out that the light levels are very different even though they don’t look too different from picture to picture.  If you desaturated both pictures, for example, they would look very different.</p>
<p>I then used the duotone feature in Sagelight to add the brown tone to the tiger cub.  My intention was more artistic, rather than photorealistic.  I could continue on this image, such as blending it, softening it, adding a vignette, etc.</p>
<h2>Truck</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/truck-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Original Image</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/truck-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>After LightBlender (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/truck-new-org.jpg">click for larger size</a>)</p>
<p>A couple notes:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>An Easy LightBlender Example</strong>.  This is a good example of a very easy-to-do example of the Light Blender.  It uses both layers with simple movements on the 5-band equalizers on each layer (shadows and highlights), and that’s it.</li>
<li><strong>LightBlender brings out the color</strong>.  As mentioned earlier, the LightBlender really bring out the color, which you can control.  In this case, I went for the colorful image on purpose, so I also added a touch of Vibrance.</li>
</ol>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;">Coming in Part II</span></h1>
<p>The examples above just scratch the surface of the capabilities of the LightBlender.  I will add more examples and tutorials over the next few weeks.</p>
<p>Part II will be about how to use the LightBlender, the controls and the the multi-level approach.  I Will have that out tomorrow.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">Introduction</span></h1>
<p><strong>(The LightBlender comes with Sagelight and is located in the PowerBox)</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>The LightBlender has two basic modes: Simple and Advanced.</p>
<p>This article is about the simple mode where you can make dramatic changes to your image with basically one set of controls (a 5-band equalizer) and two buttons.  The Advanced mode allows you to do much more, and I will discuss that in another article.</p>
<p><em>The LightBlender enables you to bring out the light in your image without blowing out the highlights or causing murky or lost shadows – which is typically hard to do in image editing.</em></p>
<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">Video Tutorial</span></h1>
<p>Watch a video tutorial of the LightBlender (basic mode) with many real-time examples</p>
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<div><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/lightblender-part-ii-using-the-lightblender-simple-mode/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/U2uZt7qXn9k/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></div>
<div>LightBlender Basic Tutorial. Watch on Youtube in 1280&#215;720 HD</div>
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<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;"><br /></span></h2>
<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">The Strength Slider and the Equalizer Controls</span></h1>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-controls-powerbox.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>The LightBlender initially comes up in the power box as a set of a couple sliders and a few buttons. The LightBlender consists of two layers that you control independently.  Initially, these are set to a “shadows” layer and a “highlights” layer, where the focus of the LightBlender’s actions on these layers are in their respective tonal areas.</p>
<h1><span style="font-size:13px;font-weight:normal;"><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-controls-equalizers5.jpg" alt="" /></span></h1>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>5-Band Equalizer (after the Strength Slider has set them)</strong></span></p>
<p>When the Strength Slider is moved, the 5-band equalizer pops up.   When moved to the right (and in the initial Shadows mode) the image will generally brighten from the shadows.  When moved to the left, the image will deepen.  The idea behind the Strength Slider is two-fold: it provides a good starting point where you can set up the equalizer values and then move the equalizers independently, as well as a way to learn how to use the equalizers by watching how the Strength Slider uses them.  The Strength Slider is not linear and purposely goes through a number of variations of the Equalizer to get a good starting point for your image.</p>
<p>The Strength Slider provides a very small subset of total possible equalizer values and is only meant to form a starting point, though it often provides a value that is just fine, as well.</p>
<h2>Example Image</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/truck-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p><strong>Original Image</strong></p>
<p>If we want to change the picture of this truck, for example ,one of the first thing we can do is to move the Strength Slider to a value that gives us something to work with.  Since this image is already bright in areas, we will probably want to adjust the Equalizers, though this is an interesting picture in that it shows how the Shadows layer (layer 1) and the Highlights Layer (layer 2) work well together.</p>
<p>Step 1: Move the Strength Slider Out to get something to work with</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-strength-81.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>If we set the Strength to 81, it would appear as above, giving us the following image:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb2-truck-org.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>This is the image after moving the Strength Slider to a value that gives us a perceptually nice image that brightens the shadows. Note that the midtones were brightened a little too, and that the colors were kept bright.  You can adjust the how the colors are treated by pressing the “CLIP” button.  Most of the time this will scale the colors back – especially when red become too bright.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-controls-equalizers5-81.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>When the Strength Slider is moved to a value of “81” this is how the equalizer will appear.  The Equalizers move in real-time with the Strength Slider to give you an idea of how the Equalizers work as they are moved.  The Equalizer window pops up automatically when the Strength Slider is moved.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">LightBlender’s Power</span></h1>
<p>That was just the beginning steps of using the LightBlender.  You can use the Strength Slider to get a starting point or press the “Controls” button to open the Equalizers and use them directly.  A good way to start with the Equalizers is to grab the leftmost equalizer, move it to the top, and then adjust the remaining equalizers downward.  This will generally set up a good starting point.</p>
<h2>The Highlights Layer</h2>
<p>The second layer, the Highlights Layer, becomes useful here.  In reality, we don’t need to do too much to the Shadows Layer we just created with the Strength Slider/Equalizer, because we really just wanted to bring up the shadows.  The Shadows Equalizer could have been adjust to bring down the sky.  But (here’s a tip), the Highlights Layer is performed <em>before</em> the Shadows Layer, so all settings performed with the Equalizer on the Shadows layer is based on whatever we do with the Highlights Layer.</p>
<p>The LightBlender is powerful with just one layer.  You can do quite a lot with just the Shadows layer or Highlights layers alone.  But, when you combine them, you get a synergistic effect that gives more power then A+B.</p>
<p>The Definition Sliders and the LightBlender in its Entirety</p>
<p>The actual, overall definition of the LightBlender includes the Definition Sliders and the Sagelight Vibrance Slider.  Underneath the hood, the Definition Sliders work to help out the LightBlender Sliders. By definition, some settings in the LightBlender lose contrast.  One of the great aspects of the LightBlender is that you can raise shadows and lower highlights, which is a great help in getting dramatic results without blowing out the highlights or shadows of your image.</p>
<p>A natural consequence of that is that contrast is sometimes lost and you want it back. You can use the LightBlender sliders to bring back the contrast, but you can also use the Definition Sliders to bring in overall local contrast.   The fringe benefit of this is that, since the contrast is typically lowered, this helps prevent halos and the washing out problems commonly associated with Local Contrast functions.</p>
<h2>Sagelight Vibrance Slider</h2>
<p>The Sagelight Vibrance Slider is also very useful with the LightBlender.  Sometimes you may want to use just the Saturation Slider in the Quick Edit or Pro Quick Edit panel.  Outside of the LightBlender, the rule-of-thumb is that sometimes the Saturation Slider is useful and sometimes the Vibrance Slider is useful.  Inside of the Light Blender, particularly if the Definition Sliders are used, the Vibrance Slider becomes useful more often than not (though, with skin tones, the Saturation Slider is usually a better choice).</p>
<p>A basic rule of image editing is that adding Saturation looks better as local contrast is added.  Sagelight Vibrance is technically a superset of Saturation, so as you add definition, and since this already works well with the LightBlender, the Sagelight Vibrance function will add deep color as definition as added, which can help keep the newly created focus/definition in the image, where normal saturation can cause overflows and color brightness that doesn’t always look natural.</p>
<h2>An Example</h2>
<p>With just the LightBlender settings and one of the Definition Sliders used, here is a result:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb2-truck-80.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p><strong>Image with LightBlender and Definition Slider applied (i.e. without the Sagelight Vibrance Slider)</strong></p>
<p>This image has a much more even tone, but also has more contrast than the original – but without sacrificing highlights are shadows.</p>
<p>Basically, this is one session and one set of control settings in the Power Box, which consists of the following:</p>
<ol>
<li>Lightblender Settings (highlights and shadows layers)</li>
<li>Definition Slider</li>
<li>Sagelight Vibrance Slider</li>
</ol>
<p>So, not really too many settings for such a change.  Here are how all of the settings as they appear (note that the Equalizer Window only appears once with one layer showing at a time; two are shown here for clarity):</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb2-diagram.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>I wanted to show you this image because the idea of adding color is different for everyone.  The next example is the image with the same exact settings, but with a bump on the Vibrance Slider:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb2-truck-new.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p><strong>Same image with Vibrance Setting applied.</strong></p>
<p>As you can see, each successive thing done starts to bring out different elements of the image more and more.  The image now has a nice overall tone, is bright and colorful, but is not overflowing in the highlights or too murky in the shadows.</p>
<p>Notice that the Shadows Equalizer in the end-result did not really change from using the Strength Slider.  This particular image did not require too much from the LightBlender to change as much as it did.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">Other controls and notes</span></h1>
<ol>
<li><strong>The Clip Button</strong>.  As mentioned, the “CLIP” button will cut the colors back.  The LightBlender tends to bring out the colors, making the image to appear bright and vibrance.  Sometimes this can be too much, especially with the reds.  The CLIP button will clip the colors back to prevent this from happening.</li>
<li><strong>Natural Button</strong>.  The “Natural” button will use a different type of blending to apply the light.  This can make quite a difference and is always worth trying.  Once you’ve used it a couple times, you’ll see how it works.  Typically, it can give a more even and natural tone, where the default mode can be harsher.</li>
<li><strong>Backlight Slider</strong>. This slider provides a backlight function which can brighten the image or darken the image from the type of layer.  For example, the Backlight on the Shadows Layer will add (or remove) a backlight from the shadows, where the Backlight Slider in the Highlights Layer will work more on the highlights.  The Backlight Slider is a great way to control the result.  For example, if you move the Highlights Slider to the left, the image will brighten quite a bit. If you move the Backlight Slider (in the Highlights Layer) to the left as well, it will start to balance out the image, and this is a great combination with the Shadows Layer to bring up the light and keep it looking very natural at the same time.</li>
<li><strong>Backlight Slider with very dark images</strong>.  You can also set a small positive setting on the backlight in the Shadows Layer to help the LightBlender work with very dark images.  Also see the Fill Light section below</li>
<li>Fill Light Slider and Shadows Layer.  These two layers work very well together.  The Fill Light has a much more subtle approach and can help with very dark images.  Also, since the Fill Light Slider does not brighten the colors, you can mix it with the Shadows layer of the LightBlender to mix-and-match subtle vs. more harsh tones for a great result.</li>
<li><strong>Smart Light vs. the LightBlender</strong>. One of the questions that immediately comes up with the LightBlender is “Is the Smart Light replaced by the LightBlender”.  The answer is “not at all” and “in some sense”.  As with the Fill Light Slider, the Smart Light uses a much more subtle approach and has specific and intensive algorithms to bring out the light and bring down the highlights in your image.  The three sections of the Smart Light (Shadows, Smart Contrast, and Highlights) have been carefully developed to work together and provide very natural results.  The LightBlender, on the other hand, is more extensible and can have a wider range than the Smart Light, but this is more for the advanced areas of the LightBlender not discussed in this article.  The LightBlender has more controls where the Smart Light is setup for one set of functions, so it is overall easier to use in some sense, though the LightBlender is also easy to use.  If you’re not getting the results you want in the LightBlender (i.e. they’re too bright, too harsh, or not picking up the shadows you want), try the Smart Light.  In fact, for a lot of images, a great way to start is to use the Smart Light and then use the LightBlender, because the Smart Light will help the LightBlender – just do a more subtle approach on the Smart Light so the LightBlender can work with your image more.</li>
</ol>
<h1><span style="color:#ff6600;">Conclusion</span></h1>
<p>This discussion has been about the Simple-mode of the LightBlender which consists of basically a 5-band equalizer that allows you to adjust the light in every area of the image.  The LightBlender is powerful with the use of just one layer, but consists of two layers (a highlights layer and shadows layer) that, when combined, make the LightBlender that much more powerful.</p>
<p>In its simple form, the LightBlender is easy to use and can make a dramatic difference in your image with just a few settings, especially when combined with the Definition and Vibrance Sliders, which are part of the overall and integral design of the LightBlender.</p>
<p>A preview of the Advanced Mode.</p>
<p>When the “Show Pro Controls” button is checked, a number of other controls and options come up which will be discussed in another article.  However, they are fairly intuitive and are explained with the help (activated by pressing ‘?’) and the tooltips that come up when you hover over any control.</p>
<p>Here is a preview of the controls that are available in the LightBlender Advanced/Pro mode:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-controls-extended.jpg" alt="" /><img src="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/lb-controls-curvewindow.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>In the Advanced mode, you have access to a 7-band equalizer, as well as a number of sliders that make the LightBlender much more powerful.  You can also use the curves window to get a very high-resolution approach to the LightBlender.  You also have control of the blending modes (Highlights, Shadows, Full) as well as the type of light that is applied to the image (such as Soft, Natural, Vivid, Hard, etc.) which adds much more range to the LightBlender.</p>
<p>The Curves window gives you a 1024&#215;1024 canvas to define the LightBlender curve which has much more resolution than regular curves (i.e. you can place points very close together with far-apart settings and not create banding).</p>
<p><strong>note</strong>: notice that the 7-Band Equalizer and the Curve have the same shape.  The Equalizer is setting nodes on the curve, which makes it easier than manipulating the entire curve.  Much as the Strength Slider sets up a good starting point for the Equalizers, the Equalizers set up a good starting point for the Curves Window.</p>
<p>Press the ‘?’ button in the Equalizers <em>when the window is extend</em>ed for a description of the extra controls.</p>
<h1><span style="color:#d16349;"><br /></span></h1>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Discussion Board Replacement Active</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/85-sagelight-blog-discussion-board-replacement-active/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Since phpBB destroyed the old discussion board, I have a replacement until vBulletin is going:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit?sk=app_2373072738">http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit?sk=app_2373072738</a></p>
<p>or just go to <a href='http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.facebook.com/SageEdit</a>  and click &#8220;discussions&#8221;.</p>
<p>When I get vBulletin up I will transfer the discussions over.   In the meantime, it seems pretty informal and is very easy to use.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Welcome</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Welcome to the new Sagelight Editor Discussion Board!<br />
</span></strong><br />
After the last discussion board self-destructed, it was obvious that it just wasn't suitable as a discussion board for today's needs, especially for an image editor where it needs to be a lot easier to post images!<br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Important information</strong>: This discussion board has a WYSIWYG editor, but it is not set as the default.  see below for more information.<br />
<br />
<span style='color: #4169e1'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>The New Discussion Board</span></span><br />
<br />
</span>The new discussion board is by Inivision, and it is much nicer than the previous free phpBB discussion board.  This discussion board includes a WYSIWYG editor, supports pasting images, and no longer put scrollbars around your images when they are above certain size. <br />
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Also, there is instant chat available for up to 5 users at a time. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Sagelight Discussion Forums</span><br />
</span><br />
This discussion board was <em class='bbc'>just</em> launched, so there will be more discussion forums separated into logical groups.  Let me know what kind of different things you want to discuss.  A discussion forum for the future of Sagelight, bugs, requests, advanced topics, etc. will be added in the coming days as the board starts to get users. <br />
<br />
Anyway, welcome to the new and improved discussion board.  It is much better than the previous one and I think it will be a lot more fun, too. <br />
<br />
Rob<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #8b0000'>P.S. </span><span style='color: #8b0000'>Switching to the WYSIWYG editor</span></strong>:  By default, the editor comes up with the old BB-style code where you need to enter "<strong class='bbc'>hello</strong>" in order to make the font bold, as well as host of other similar types of code for various effects and font size changes.  This discussion board has a great WYSIWYG (called an RTE editor (i.e. Rich Text Editor) on the discussion board) but needs to be turned on.<br />
<br />
To do, do the following simple steps:<br />
<br />
1. Click on your user name in the upper-right-hand corner.<br />
2. From the pull-down menu, click "<strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>My Settings</em></strong>".<br />
3. Under "<strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>profile Settings</em></strong>" click the checkbox "<strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>Enable visual (RTE) editor?".</em></strong><br />
4. Save your settings. <br />
<br />
That's it -- then you will have a true WYSWYG editor on this discussion board!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This discussion forum is about the current and future development of Sagelight. <br />
<br />
In here, I'll post about things I'm working on, and it would be great to hear from you about what you like and would like to see in Sagelight as it gets developed.<br />
<br />
In a week or so, I will outline a specific set of plans for Sagelight and it would be great to get feedback on it. <br />
<br />
In the meantime, I am working on the release of 4.1 that includes some low-level noise reduction, a complete revamp of image blending, and a few other things as I prepare to start on version 4.2 which will include the Raw Browser and NL means noise reduction.<br />
<br />
I will post more in the next few days.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the Tech Talk forum. <br />
<br />
As I figure out what forums to add, the idea of talking on more technical subjects came up, as I really wanted to use the Sagelight Development forum for things happening, likely to happen, or not-happening-but-should-be-happening in Sagelight there, but I was posting more technically-oriented items there. <br />
<br />
The informal nature of the Facebook discussion allowed for some great discussions along those lines, so I thought it might be nice to continue it here.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>You can sign in with Facebook, too</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/8-you-can-sign-in-with-facebook-too/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just connected Facebook with the discussion board. Now you can sign in via Facebook.  When you register, just click "Sign in with Facebook".  After you're registered, you should just be logged in via Facebook (if you want) after that.  I think it happens automatically, or just by pressing a single button (as opposed to entering your registration ID).<br />
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Please let me know how that works or if there is any difficulty. <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Plugin discussion from the facebook page</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
neat that the forum is working again.<br />
Just wanted to add something to the plugin discussion from the facebook page.<br />
<br />
I am one of the people that collect lots of plugins. I would really appreciate if I could organize (at least some of) the plugins according to my preferences in their own menu or reach a few of the plugins quickly with an icon on a toolbar. The Sagelight plugin filter list view is already a lot better than the conventional folders (according to authors etc.) that become really cumbersome with more plugins.<br />
This is not a wish of any priority - it seems to be very difficult to implement since nobody else does it.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>About the Wiki (and MediaWiki)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/4-about-the-wiki-and-mediawiki/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[In the Facebook discussion group, the idea of starting a Wiki came up. <br />
<br />
I installed MediaWiki, but it wasn't working right and then I ended up destroying it.  It seemed ok, and had the same basic look & feel as Wikipedia.  Editing the pages was definitely not completely easy, as it doesn't offer a WYSIWYG environment and has its own nomenclature for such things, as opposed to using a standard like BB code. <br />
<br />
I like the idea of a wiki very much, because it allows for a way to write more about the technical things that Sagelight does and, as we discussed on Facebook, a great way for anyone who wants to to get involved, especially since it would be more about the theory vs. the implementation or UI.  For example, I've really wanted to discuss some of the C*I*E LAB mode, XYZ, YXY, etc. internal conversions that happen, as well as the exact formula for the Gaussian blur -- something that would otherwise seem obscure (especially something like a Gaussian Blur -- you'd think it's all standard by now, but it really isn't implemented mathematically correct in every editing environment). <br />
<br />
Since I have to reinstall a wiki, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on wikis (there were some on the Facebook page, and I will look at that again) and any experience with MediaWiki? <br />
<br />
It would be nice of it was easy, but I guess the main thing is that the end-result be presentable on a web page. <br />
<br />
Any thoughts?<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>IP address vs. URL for the discussion board and blog</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I am building the discussion board and new blog, you probably noticed that the URL transfers to another location, ip address 50.56.127.38/blog or 50.56.127.38/wordpress<br />
<br />
I need to assign a url to this server, but it may be a while.  I'm paying for two servers at the moment now, and this is because my current/last server company won't honor the contract, which has disabled the ability to run Wordpress and Invision (the discussion board).  As it turns out, this new cloud-based server seems pretty fast, but I want to test it over a month or so to see if it stays fast most of the time, or whether it has periodic & frustrating slowdowns.  If not, I intend to move SagelightEditor.com over to it, and then I would just use the URL for the blog & discussion board.  If not, I will assign a new url for the blog & discussion board.<br />
<br />
This means it may take a month before an actual URL shows up on the blog & discussion board and that it would continue to transfer to 50.56.127.38 until then. <br />
<br />
When I first started Sagelight, I had some of those issues and received e-mails from people concerned about being transferred to an IP address -- and, in fact, their browsers popped up a message telling them this was not wise, that going to a plain IP address was not recommended. <br />
<br />
Do you think that it is a problem and that I should put a URL in place asap (if only temporary), or do you think its fine over the next month?<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The Forum as a URL now.</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/15-the-forum-as-a-url-now/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The discussion board now has the URL <a href='http://www.sagelightblog.com/forums' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.sagelightblog.com/forums</a>.   If you've bookmarked it, the old url <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/discussion' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.sagelighteditor.com/discussion</a> works just fine, too.   I just wanted to remove the ip address location as quickly as possible, since some browsers pop up notifications, and some servers were rejecting the registration e-mail as spam.  <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>www.sagelightblog.com</em></strong> will be active as the main blog in a few days, replacing the current one at <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>sagelighteditor.wordpress.com</em></strong>.<br />
<br />
<span style='color: #4169E1'><strong class='bbc'>note</strong></span>: It might be a little delayed, as the URL is still working its way through the DNS servers. So, if it isn't working right now, it shouldn't be more than another 24 hours. It will also explain any broken links are pictures during the next day or so.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Welcome</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/16-welcome/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Sagelight has a lot of help, either through the main help interface or '?' button in every single function. <br />
<br />
But, like a lot of help systems, these tend to explain the mechanics and "how-to" of the function and not the overall view of how the function fits into the scheme of doing great things with your image.  Many functions can be great by themselves, or even boring by themselves; but when combined with other functions or used in certain ways, they can do amazing things to your image. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><strong class='bbc'>Sagelight the Book</strong></span><br />
<br />
The idea came up from Sagelight users of a "getting started" manual with Sagelight.  Sagelight 4.0 really advanced the number of functions and the overall power of Sagelight.  <br />
<br />
In general, Sagelight is easy to use, but a little background in either Sagelight and/or image-editing can really make a major difference.  Sometimes just knowing about one little slider or button can make a very dramatic (and pleasing) change to your image.   Or, sometimes just certain tips and tricks can make a difference.  For example, one of the things I talk about a lot is adding an undiscernible vignette that can change the entire mood of your picture.  The difference between a normal vignette and subtle/undiscernible vignette is just about using a few controls.  Plus, a lot of people who use Sagelight don't know that you can simply <em class='bbc'>move</em> the vignette with the mouse on the screen, to place the center of the vignette wherever you want!<br />
<br />
On a technical side, image-editing can seem a little forbidding or intimidating.  But, when taken with just a few easy steps, it become clearer and clearer and -- and, more importantly (the most important, I would say) -- fun!  For example, just knowing how to read the histogram can really help you it.  As it turns out, there's only two things you need to look at the histogram; otherwise, it's generally more complicated than it appears.. it's just that all of those graphics are necessary to represent those two things (which are the underflows (shadows) and overflows (highlights).   But, then, later on (much later), you can also use the histogram to get into deeper topics which will be discussed in an entirely different document. <br />
<br />
The main idea for me really gets into why Sagelight was created in the first place: to provide a way to get professional-level (and -looking) results in an easy-to-use environment, but also in a way that is fun and learn-as-you-go. <br />
<br />
With the Sagelight Book and Manual, the idea is to do the same thing: create a book that is easily read, entertaining, and that teaches about image editing concepts, in general, that you can use for anything (not just Sagelight), as well as show how and why things are done in Sagelight to easily (most of the time, anyway) get great results from your image with really not a lot of effort. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><strong class='bbc'>Your Contributions</strong></span><br />
<br />
I would like this to be a community effort, driven by what you'd like to know.  There are some first core concepts, such as the way Sagelight goes about things, but beyond that, let me know what you'd like to know about, and this will help drive it. <br />
<br />
Also, I set up a wiki (sagelightblog.com/docs) (it's still in an early development form) where people who want to contribute to the writing of it by asking questions, pointing out things, or just helping to drive it are more than welcome. <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 15px;'>The Blog and Posting of Each Article</span></strong><br />
<br />
Now that the new discussion board is up and the new blog is about to be launched, I will be writing articles to be placed in the manual/book on the blog, and then placing it in the wiki so that it can grow -- most articles generate questions, and I am finding that the wiki is a great way to place the original material so that it can continue to stay alive and become a much better, more comprehensive document. <br />
<br />
So, as things are added to Sagelight, or someone asks a question that becomes a great comment in a chapter, it can get addressed and added in very quickly. <br />
<br />
My thinking is that it would start to really take shape after a few article are written and there is something to really start to work with.  The nice thing is that as things come up, they can get added, or can become something with which to start an entirely new chapter.<br />
<br />
So, let me know what you think, and please post what you'd like to see, know more about, etc. (i.e. in terms of suggestions for inclusion)  in here!<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 00:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Wiki Page up and Running</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/11-wiki-page-up-and-running/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I took Andy's advice and installed DokuWiki.  Just as he said, it was very quick and easy to get running. <br />
<br />
It is at  <a href='http://50.56.127.38/wiki' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://50.56.127.38/wiki</a>  (I just obtained SagelightBlog.com, so it will be at SagelightBlog.com/wiki soon)<br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Notes about Doku Wiki</strong><br />
<ul class='bbc'><li>It's very easy and anyone can edit it.</li><li>There are video tutorials at <a href='http://www.dokuwiki.org/screencast' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.dokuwiki.org/screencast</a>  (The first two videos are short and all you need)</li></ul><br />
<strong class='bbc'>What I'd like to do with the Wiki. </strong><br />
<br />
I really like the idea of a wiki, and it was first mentioned on the Facebook discussion board.  It would be great to mold it into something that discussed more advanced Sagelight topics, formulas used, concepts, etc., but also it would be nice to turn it into something that has articles on image editing principles, in general -- such as those that are more interesting to hobbyists.  So, this would work to be able to explore more advanced topics in a separate environment. <br />
<br />
Since it's a Wiki, this means anyone can get involved who wants to. <br />
<br />
What would you like to see it do?<br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Media Wiki vs. Doku Wiki</strong><br />
<br />
I am curious about a couple things with Doku Wiki vs. Media Wiki.  I messed up the installation of Media Wiki, and I think it may want to use a lot more resources.  <br />
<br />
But, I did notice that Doku Wiki does not have a discussion area for each article, which I think would be nice.  Of course, I can start a new forum here for that, though it would be interesting to be able to comment and pose questions about various articles. <br />
<br />
Also, it seems to me that a lot of information is generic and public domain.  The section on the Gaussian blur, for example, doesn't really need to be written in any more detail than to discuss how Sagelight works with it.  The rest could be taken from Wikipedia, for example, to fill out the general information regarding a Gaussian Blur.  Though, maybe it's better to not do that, since Wikipedia tends to get more into the mathematical/formulaic, where I'd like to see something that discusses things less in the abstract and more in the concrete. <br />
<br />
I am wondering if Media Wiki would be more amenable to cutting and pasting. <br />
<br />
On the other hand, Doku Wiki seems friendly and a lot easier to use!<br />
<br />
Anyway, if people want to contribute to it, it is open for anyone to edit it.  I heard something about registering, but I guess I don't know how to turn that on anyway. <br />
<br />
Also, please let me know what you'd like to see there.  I think it;s a great place to outline topics for filling in later, and that would be a great way for me to write about things I'd like to get out there by just taking an hour here and there to fill out something that's already in the main outline.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/11-wiki-page-up-and-running/</guid>
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		<title>Color Space and Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/13-color-space-and-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob. Just in case you haven't had enough to do lately <img src='http://50.56.127.38/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />...... Earlier this week I posted a note to you on the Facebook board about a problem I have been having where Sagelight apparently discards embedded color profiles when saving an edited .NEF RAW picture to JPG. Have you had a chance to look into this yet?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 00:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/13-color-space-and-sagelight/</guid>
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		<title>Which sites to monitor?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/14-which-sites-to-monitor/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
It's great to see the discussion forum back in action.  However, with that addition, I think the web-presence of Sagelight is further blurred and I'm not even sure what/where to monitor for new information and updates.  The way I see it, there are (at least) the following "official" Sagelight-related sites:<br />
<br />
- The home page<br />
- The Facebook page<br />
- The original blog<br />
- The new User forums (here)<br />
- The new blog<br />
- The new wiki<br />
<br />
Have I missed any?<br />
<br />
Trying to monitor all of the above for activity / updates / announcements is a little much.  Could you please clarify which of the above sites are being actively updated, which are now defunct (if any), which will be defunct when the dust settles, etc.  As I mentioned in a private email, I think some web-presence simplification is in order...<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/14-which-sites-to-monitor/</guid>
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		<title>Welcome</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/19-welcome/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Here is the place to report bugs and problems you may have with Sagelight.  This will help keep the reports in one place and allows them to be tracked more closely. <br />
<br />
All bugs are put into the wiki at www.sagelightblog.com/devel for secheduling, status, and tracking. <br />
<br />
The wiki (and this forum) will also help to organize some bugs that can be hard to reproduce or to add information about them -- different users do things differently in Sagelight which can bring out different aspects or experiences with bugs.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 03:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/19-welcome/</guid>
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		<title>Color Changer</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/27-color-changer/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
maybe a silly question:<br />
I have a nice landscape picture, where I would like to replace the more grey sky with a blue one.<br />
But to be honest, I wasn't able to do it although I tried it several times e.g. with the color changer.<br />
Any hint?<br />
<br />
Regards.<br />
reuel]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/27-color-changer/</guid>
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		<title>The discussion board is on a Cloud Server. How does it look?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/2-the-discussion-board-is-on-a-cloud-server-how-does-it-look/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This discussion board and the blog is on a virtual cloud server.  I decided to try the cloud out, as there is a lot of promise behind it. <br />
<br />
But, I am a little worried about slowness.  Let me know what you think of the response time for both the discussion board and the new blog location.<br />
<br />
I can't really tell just yet, as I have been having a slow connection at home lately. <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 01:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/2-the-discussion-board-is-on-a-cloud-server-how-does-it-look/</guid>
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		<title>Filter: Soft Glow / Soft Focus.</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/34-filter-soft-glow-soft-focus/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Not sure when this started happening. When I try to use this filter and click "More Options" then try to move the "Blur" slider the whole filter ether DIES or the filter drops off like everything is "0". Only way to bring the filter back to life is to move the "RANGE" to 0 and then back up.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/34-filter-soft-glow-soft-focus/</guid>
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		<title>Crop Size Bug?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/33-crop-size-bug/</link>
		<description>Been here for awhile but cropping for a 5x7 the measurements are off. Cropping for a 5x7 in sagelight is actually 5x5.84. Can you confirm.</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/33-crop-size-bug/</guid>
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		<title>Copyright inclusion</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/29-copyright-inclusion/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering if there are any plans to include a copyright feature to SageLight. I sell online and would love to have this available. It would save me from using to programs. <br />
<br />
Thanks, Sue]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/29-copyright-inclusion/</guid>
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		<title>Plugins</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/30-plugins/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I suggest we incorporate a plugin maker in Sagelight and provide a way for users who do make their own plugins to leave them somewhere in this discussion board for others to try. We all know there are a few plugin makers out there. I'm not a programmer but couldn't someone write a 'Sagelight' plugin maker? What say you to this?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 16:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/30-plugins/</guid>
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		<title>Internal Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/37-internal-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have noticed that you have a subsection "Internal Sagelight" on this.. what all do you prefer goes in here vs the private forum.<br />
<br />
Basically is "Sagelight Development" for general users 'feature request' and "Internal Sagelight" for more advance requests? Just wondering what goes where before I repost old/new ideas.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/37-internal-sagelight/</guid>
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		<title>Old Stuff.</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/36-old-stuff/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have some old stuff for you not sure if you really need this stuff anymore or even want anymore help with this kind of thing.. I had started this before you disappeared for 4.0 development, and the board went down.<br />
<br />
Some GUI Panels and stuff.<br />
<br />
Sent Email cause can't attach zips in this forum but not sure if you still have access to your old email address with your host changing and all.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 17:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/36-old-stuff/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[re 4.1.5 release: If you didn't see some things you were looking for...]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/42-re-415-release-if-you-didnt-see-some-things-you-were-looking-for/</link>
		<description><![CDATA["some things" being a euphemism for "bug fixes", of course.  <br />
<br />
There were a few bug fixes that didn't make it into this release that have been discussed on the discussion board and were intended for this release.  The reason that some things didn't make it into this release is that this release was lagging and I wanted to make sure to get it out, rather than letting some completed and fairly-sizeable work sit around doing nothing while I spent another couple weeks on the rest of the release requirements for version 4.1.<br />
<br />
I have just two minor/medium-sized components to add to the next release, 4.1.6, which is the final 4.1 release. <br />
<br />
This is also the release where I will be addressing as many bug fixes as I can.  This last release and the previous release took about a month each. This next release shouldn't take more than 2 weeks or so, since there is less to do and is mostly bug fixes which, fortunately, are fairly easy to deal with (in this case). <br />
<br />
A lot of the delay was due to the server that really became a problem.  I finally dumped my previous server company (Codero... if you want to hear a horror story, let me know) and am finally finishing up on moving to the new server completely over the next couple days.  I had to do a lot of things in a short period of time, so some items (i.e. some bug fixes) were replaced by putting up the discussion board as well as installing the new server, etc.  Plus, I have three really cool wikis going now, too.<br />
<br />
There is an outstanding crop bug and rotate bug that are on the list, as well as the ICC issue with RAW files.  I will be posting a fully-detailed list of the requirements at <a href='http://www.sagelightblog.com/devel' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.sagelightblog.com/devel</a> in the next day or so.  It will be under "<em class='bbc'>4.1.6 Requirements</em>".  If you don't see one that you consider to be important and should be on the list (especially if its been discussed), let me know.  <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/42-re-415-release-if-you-didnt-see-some-things-you-were-looking-for/</guid>
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		<title>Server almost moved -- e-mail down, please use another address</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/44-server-almost-moved-e-mail-down-please-use-another-address/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The server move is still in-progress, the only thing still being worked out being the e-mail.<br />
<br />
The forum url is now www.sagelightforum.com -- please let me know if you have any problems, broken links, etc.  Your browser may need to have its cached dumped (i.e. press reload on the main forum page), especially if it tells you you're not logged in and you were the last time you were here. <br />
<br />
While the e-mail problems are being worked out, please feel free to e-mail me at <a href='mailto:sagelighteditor@yhaoo.com' title='E-mail Link' class='bbc_email'>sagelighteditor@yhaoo.com</a><br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/44-server-almost-moved-e-mail-down-please-use-another-address/</guid>
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		<title>Server completely moved</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/46-server-completely-moved/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The server is completely moved now and the DNS entries should all be pointed to this new server now. <br />
<br />
Please let me know of any problems!  If you've experienced any broken links, downloads, or returned e-mails in the last day or so, this is because of the move.   <br />
<br />
If you have any problems reaching me, please use sagelighteditor@yahoo.com<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/46-server-completely-moved/</guid>
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		<title>is there a way to fix something like this</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/47-is-there-a-way-to-fix-something-like-this/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[[attachment=9:img007.jpg]<br />
<br />
I know its a rotten scan but i pulled it off of a retouching board<br />
i know there must be a way to knock out the black spots with out clone and heal <br />
but i am not smart enough to figure it out<br />
<br />
its actually a color photo<br />
i did manage to pull some color out of it<br />
anyone have clues?<br />
cc]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/47-is-there-a-way-to-fix-something-like-this/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[Sagelight Blog: B/W &#38; Color Tone Blender: Part I (Introduction)]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/83-sagelight-blog-bw-color-tone-blender-part-i-introduction/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><em><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">Try the new blog at </span></strong><a href="http://www.sagelightblog.com"><strong><span style="color:#0000a0;">www.sagelightblog.com!</span></strong></a></em></p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Introduction to the Tone Blender</span></h2>
<p>A new addition to the Sagelight in version 4.1.5 is the B/W & Color Tone Blender, or just the Tone Blender for short.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/release4.1.5">Click here for release notes and download information for Sagelight 4.1.5 (latest version and 30-day trial)</a></p>
<p>The Tone Blender allows you to add color tones to your black-and-white or color (or color as black-and-white) picture in many different forms, from subtle sepia, warm & cool tones, washed out effects, color burned effects, or just color toning to blend in to your image for moody or surreal effect.</p>
<p>In addition to color toning, the Tone Blender also has a powerful vignette feature that allows you to add a vignette of any color and many different styles to the image.  By itself, the vignette can add a very dramatic statement to your image, especially when used with some of the color burn modes.</p>
<p>The Tone Blender features 60+ presets to help get you started.  You can select a preset from a list or a random preset – when you see something you like, you can then use the controls from there  After a few presets and experimenting with the controls, it becomes pretty clear how powerful the Tone Blender can be.</p>
<h3><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#800040;">Try it yourself with loadable profiles/presets</span></span></h3>
<p><strong>How to do it:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Load the original image link (see below)</li>
<li>Load the profile link and save it somewhere on your disk.</li>
<li>When running Sagelight, load the original image.</li>
<li>Go to the <em>“<span style="color:#f79646;">B/W & Color Tone Blender</span></em>” under the “<em><span style="color:#f79646;">Pro Menu</span></em>”</li>
<li>Load the saved preset.  It will create the same results.</li>
</ul>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Tone Blender Types</span></h2>
<p>As with many Sagelight features, the Tone Blender really is a<em> Program within a Program</em>, in that it offers a number of features with a lot of control.  There are a few basic areas of the Tone Blender:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Simple Monochrome Toning and Duotoning </strong></li>
<li><strong>Multi Color Mode </strong></li>
<li><strong>Washed Out Effects </strong></li>
<li><strong>Burned Color Effects </strong></li>
<li><strong>Using the Vignette </strong>
<ul>
<li><strong>Simple Vignette </strong></li>
<li><strong>Color Vignette </strong></li>
<li><strong>Harsh Vignette </strong></li>
<li><strong>Burned & Burned Color Vignette </strong></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h2><span style="color:#d16349;">Simple Monochrome Toning and Duotoning</span></h2>
<p>When you first come into the Tone Blender, two menus come up, the <em>Image Controls Menu</em> with various controls for light type and pre- and post-disposition of the image.  Another menu that comes up is the <span style="color:#f79646;"><em>Color Blending Controls</em> </span>(Simple Mode):</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/simplecolormenu.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="simplecolormenu" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/simplecolormenu_thumb.jpg?w=260&#038;h=207" alt="simplecolormenu" width="260" height="207" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>This menu allows to change the basic color tone, the amount (i.e. how much of the color), and brightness of the color of the image.  You can also press the “<em><span style="color:#f79646;">Layer Fill Color</span></em>” button to pop up a window where you can select the color more visually.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-org.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="sample1-500-org" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sample1-500-org.jpg?w=520&#038;h=355" alt="sample1-500-org" width="520" height="355" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>If we use the above picture as a start point, we can use this simple menu to make a nice black-and-white sepia tone image out of it. (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-org.jpg">click on image or here  for original size</a>)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-1.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="sample1-500-1" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sample1-500-1.jpg?w=520&#038;h=355" alt="sample1-500-1" width="520" height="355" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>With the new image, all I did was to do the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Turn the image black and white with the Black and White Slider (see below)</li>
<li>Set the color to 30 degrees, which is about the same as the default entry (see the above menu to see the color)</li>
<li>Select “Solid Color”. This keeps the picture bright.  I will show another example below where I don’t use that switch for a more pronounced effect.</li>
<li>Put the Saturation to 21 – this brings down the amount of color, since I want a subtle toned effect for this image.</li>
<li>load the preset: <a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/dog1.ToneBlender.slp">click here to download “dog1”</a>.</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#d16349;">The Image Controls</span></h3>
<p>Another menu comes up when you launch the Tone Blender:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/controlsmenu.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="Tone Controls Menu" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/controlsmenu_thumb.jpg?w=230&#038;h=430" alt="controlsmenu" width="230" height="430" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>These controls allow you to make changes to the image before it is process and after.  For example, I used the <em><span style="color:#f79646;">Black and White Slider</span></em> (at 100%) in the above example to turn the image black and white before I toned it.</p>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color:#d16349;">Adding a Vignette</span></h3>
<p>Now let’s add a vignette to this image.  I am also going to make one more change: I will uncheck “<em><span style="color:#f79646;">Solid Color</span></em>”.  Instead of blending with the color selected, it will now blend with a copy of the image toned to that color, which adds contrast to an image and makes it more moody:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-2.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="sample1-500-2" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sample1-500-2.jpg?w=520&#038;h=355" alt="sample1-500-2" width="520" height="355" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see, this image is a lot different.  Here is what I did with this image:</p>
<ul>
<li>Set the Vignette Opacity to 80%.  The other vignette controls are already set.</li>
<li>Move the vignette with the mouse slightly to make the center closer to the dog’s head (but not completely centered, as that didn’t look as nice)</li>
<li>Unchecked the “<em>Solid Color</em>” checkbox to create a deeper tone.</li>
<li>Increase the<em> <span style="color:#f79646;">Color Amount</span></em> in the <em>“Color Blending Controls</em>” Window to about 35.  I did this because it looked better with the deeper tone after unchecking the “<em>Solid Color</em>” checkbox</li>
<li>load the preset: <a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/dog2.ToneBlender.slp">click here to download “dog 2”</a></li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#d16349;">Simple Changes</span></h3>
<p>Now, if I want to, I can create a different mood just by moving the Color Slider:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-3.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="sample1-500-3" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sample1-500-3.jpg?w=520&#038;h=355" alt="sample1-500-3" width="520" height="355" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>With this picture, here is what I did:</p>
<ul>
<li>Move the Color Slider to about –135 degrees.</li>
<li>use the preset from above, and move the Color Slider.</li>
</ul>
<p>and that’s it!</p>
<p>Another thing I can do (to the previous ‘warm’ duotone), I can select the “Hard Light” setting to create a harsher light onto the image:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/sample1-4.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:block;float:none;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="sample1-500-4" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/sample1-500-4.jpg?w=520&#038;h=355" alt="sample1-500-4" width="520" height="355" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>With this image, I did the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Reloaded the Profile “Dog2”</li>
<li>Selected the Hard Light Option</li>
<li>Increase the Saturation to about 25 for effect (to add slightly more color)</li>
<li>load the preset: <a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/toneblender/dog3.ToneBlender.slp">click here to download “dog3”.</a></li>
</ul>
<h4><span style="color:#f79646;">Things to try:</span></h4>
<ul>
<li>Move the vignette with the mouse.  Also try the softness and other controls</li>
<li>Select presets.  Then change the controls set by the presets.  This is a great way to learn how to use the tone blender and to see how versatile it is.</li>
<li>Try a vignette color.  Then try a Burn Mode (under Vignette Mode) with a wide softness value.</li>
<li>Try different blend modes.</li>
<li>Try different mixtures of the Black and White Slider and the Post Saturation Slider.</li>
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<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Conclusion (for Part I)</span></h2>
<p>The Tone Blender allows you to do simple to more aggressive toning with just a few controls.  The first part was a basic introduction show a small set of controls to perform simple toning of a black-and-white image (or color image converted to black-and-white, as in this case).</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">Coming Next in Part II: Blending with Color Images and the Multi-Color Mode</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><span style="color:#666666;">Image Credit</span>: “<em>My dog is soo dog gone cute</em>” by </span><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/katydid619/"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">katherinejoy101</span></a></p>
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<p>The recent release of Sagelight 4.1.5 supports even more C*I*E LAB color space functionality.&nbsp; The Unsharp Mask, Gaussian Blur, Tone Blender, High Pass Filter, Power Curves, Pro Quick Edit Mode, and other modes openly support C*I*E LAB channels as separate options over RGB color space, and much more is done with C*I*E LAB mode behind the scenes. </p>
<p>If you’ve read much of the blog or release notes, you’ll see that I mention LAB mode a lot lately.&nbsp; Not just LAB mode, but C*I*E LAB mode.&nbsp; I think now is a good time to write about it because Sagelight is making it more and more visible in the menu items.&nbsp; The reason is because LAB mode is <em>not</em> always the most desirable mode, but <em>is</em> a mode that hobbyists, enthusiasts, and professionals want to use a lot. </p>
<p>As I’ve mentioned here and there Sagelight really wants to work on dual planes: to do powerful things behind the scenes so you don’t have to know what’s going on to get great results, but also to give you the power to do advanced things, if that’s what you want to do. </p>
<p>Sagelight has always used LAB mode behind the scenes, both C*I*E LAB mode and Hunter LAB mode (Hunter LAB is very close to C*I*E LAB mode, and has some advantages). </p>
<h2><font color="#0000ff"><font color="#0080ff"></font></font></h2>
<h2><font color="#0000ff"><font color="#0080ff">C*I*E LAB Color Space and Sagelight</font> </font></h2>
<p><font color="#000000">Ok, so what’s so good about LAB Color Space, and what is LAB Coloor Space in the first place? </font></p>
<p>In a nutshell, C*I*E LAB space allows you to work with just the light in an image without affecting the color, and vice-versa. There are other modes that let you do this, but typically not with the quality and control of C*I*E LAB color space.</p>
<p>For example, the most common method of removing color noise is to just blur the colors without changing the light.&nbsp; But, not all spaces the separate the color from the light are equal.&nbsp; If you blur the colors in a non-C*I*E space, the colors can become muted very quickly.&nbsp; C*I*E LAB modes keeps the colors and light as pure as possible.</p>
<p>Basically, C*I*E LAB Color Space is a way that you can deal with the luminance component of your image without changing the color. </p>
<p>Another example is to sharpen just the light without affecting the color; this allows you to avoid color edges and sparkling that can occur with sharpening.</p>
<h2><font color="#0080ff">Why don’t all editors support C*I*E LAB space? </font></h2>
<p>The C*I*E LAB space calculation is very intensive, and to use it real-time and integrate it into an editor is not that easy.&nbsp;&nbsp; A lot of editors don’t support it, or use different modes (such as YCrCb or YUV) to do calculations which do not deliver the same quality level. </p>
<h2><font color="#0080ff">C*I*E LAB vs. Other Color Spaces</font></h2>
<p>The reason the term “C*I*E” is used a lot is to differentiate between C*I*E LAB color space and other color spaces such as YUV and YCrCb. </p>
<p>The C*I*E L channel calculation is designed to approximate the human perception of the light as closely as possible.&nbsp; So, when you convert your image to black-and-white with the C*I*E color space, you’re getting the image you’d see if you didn’t see color. </p>
<p>I personally don’t think that a C*I*E-based grayscale image looks as perceptually as nice as just averaging the RGB image, but it does mean that Sagelight can work with the luminance and color separately and at a level that makes perceptual sense and has a very high degree of accuracy.</p>
<p>Each color space has a great use, but substituting YUV and YCrCB inappropriately when C*I*E LAB space should be used typically reduces the quality in your image. </p>
<h2><font color="#0080ff">Where and When to use C*I*E LAB Space in Sagelight</font></h2>
<p>Sagelight supports C*I*E LAB space in many places, and there are many places where C*I*E LAB mode is used by functions within Sagelight and called another name – typically, when you see a term such as “Keep Luminance”, this means Sagelight is using C*I*E LAB Space.</p>
<p>Here are some good places to use C*I*E LAB mode in Sagelight</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Kayak/Pro Quick Edit Mode</font></h3>
<p>You can just press the <a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/labicon.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="labicon" border="0" alt="labicon" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/labicon_thumb.jpg?w=29&#038;h=28" width="29" height="28"></a> icon on the Kayak/Pro Quick Edit Mode and that will put Sagelight into C*I*E LAB mode.&nbsp; Any function you use while in the Kayak/Pro Quick Edit Mode will be executed in C*I*E LAB mode. </p>
<p>Now, when you use the toning controls for color or light, these will operate on those channels individually.&nbsp; If you pop up the Curves Box, the channels will now be L, A, and B, meaning you can adjust these channels by themselves. </p>
<p>While you’re at it, also try the <a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hslicon.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="hslicon" border="0" alt="hslicon" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hslicon_thumb.jpg?w=29&#038;h=28" width="29" height="28"></a> icon – this will put you into HSL mode, which also has advantages.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Power Box</font></h3>
<p>The Power Box can be used in the Pro Quick Edit mode and the Quick Edit Mode.</p>
<p>When you’re in the Power Box, try moving over to the Kayak/Pro Quick Edit Mode and using it there.&nbsp; You might notice that a couple things disappear.&nbsp; The Vibrance and Color Toning options disappear because they are not compatible with the C*I*E LAB mode. </p>
<p>The LightBlender, Definition Sliders (i.e. local contrast), and all other functions will now only operate on the C*I*E L channel. This can provide great effects and keep your image cleaner by not touching the color. </p>
<p>Also try this in the HSL Color Space (described above) for interesting effects.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Unsharp Mask</font></h3>
<p>The Unsharp Mask in Sagelight offers three C*I*E LAB color space options.&nbsp; You can sharpen all three channels in the C*I*E color space, just as you would in RGB.&nbsp; This can be cleaner, but can also cause color drift.</p>
<p>You can sharpen just the L channel, which is a way to sharpen your image and keep color noise (i.e. sparkling) from occurring. <em>This is generally a function used by hobbyists, enthusiasts, and professionals to keep the image quality higher</em>.</p>
<p>You can also sharpen just the A & B channels. The only real reason to do that is for effect, as it doesn’t have any serious image-enhancement effect.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Gaussian Blur</font></h3>
<p>The Gaussian Blur can blur on all C*I*E channels or just the L or A & B channels. The main usefulness here is to blur on the A&B channels, as this has the effect of just blurring the colors. </p>
<p><em>Blurring the A&B channels is how color noise reduction is done in most editors such as Adobe Photoshop & Lightroom. </em></p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">High Pass Filter</font></h3>
<p>The High Pass Filter has some interesting options for C*I*E LAB Mode. </p>
<p>The High Pass filter is generally used on an image prior to image blending.&nbsp; It allows you flexibility in creating local contrast effects for your image. </p>
<p>You can perform a high pass on the RGB channels and then blend it back in for a great local contrast or sharpening effect.&nbsp; Sometimes, though, you want to just use the C*I*E LAB channel.</p>
<p>You can do this in the High Pass Filter to keep the image cleaner and to provide different local contrast effects (through the blending). </p>
<p>You can also create an L-channel-only image (i.e. just black-and-white).&nbsp; This has the advantage of creating an L-channel-only image that can then be used to blend just on the L-channel later, keeping the entire process only on the L channel.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Blend Undo Image</font></h3>
<p>In the Blend Undo Image, you can blend two image layers together in various blend modes such as Soft Light, Hard Light, Vivid, Difference, etc.</p>
<p>When you select the Luminance channel, this uses only the C*I*E L channel for the blend. Similarly, if you choose the Color channels, this blends only on the C*I*E color channels (A&B).</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Power Curves</font></h3>
<p>The Power Curves, by far, has the most flexibility with working with different color spaces.&nbsp; The Power Curves was built specifically to work with different color spaces.&nbsp; It can work with XYZ, YXY, RGB, and other color spaces. </p>
<p>It can also work with the C*I*E LAB mode on each channel, as well as an extra Chroma channel to make the curves more useful.</p>
<p><strong><font color="#000000">C*I*E LCH space</font></strong></p>
<p>Probably more useful than just C*I*E LAB color space, the Power Curves can also work on C*I*E LCH space, which converts the color channels into two components: Chroma (i.e. saturation) and Hue. </p>
<p>Try using these curves.&nbsp; You can adjust the saturation, color, and light independently for some very powerful results.&nbsp; In fact, this mode is so useful, this mode will either be added or replace the C*I*E LAB color space in the Pro Quick Edit Mode.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Vibrance Curves</font></h3>
<p>Similar to the Power Curves, the Vibrance Curves also support C*I*E LAB color space (in the form of C*I*E LCH color space). </p>
<p>This creates a very stark and controllable set of vibrance functions.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Sagelight Saturation</font></h3>
<p>The Sagelight Saturation modes (known as “<em><font color="#f79646">Pro Saturation</font></em>” in the menu list) provide an array of very high-quality saturation functions.</p>
<p>Among those is Hunter LAB, C*I*E LAB, XYZ, Sagelight Saturation, and True Color (another Sagelight algorithm).&nbsp; All of these modes use C*I*E space (i.e. C*I*E XYZ, which must be converted to prior to C*I*E LAB mode) for great color control and minimum noise.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Tone Blender</font></h3>
<p>The Tone Blender offers the “<em>Keep Luminance</em>” function that uses the Sagelight Luminance Protect feature.&nbsp; This uses Sagelight RGB/C*I*E space that was developed just for Sagelight, which in turn uses C*I*E LAB as part of that space to control the light value.&nbsp; This basically provides a much truer luminance than C*I*E LAB can by itself by correcting problems that can occur in C*I*E LAB space.</p>
<h2><font color="#0080ff">When Not to use C*I*E LAB Space</font></h2>
<p>C*I*E LAB space is not always the best color space to use for every function.&nbsp; It is an extremely useful tool to have in any editor, including Sagelight, but it is not the best at everything – otherwise it would be the only mode supported!</p>
<p>Here are some places where C*I*E LAB space is not always the best</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Color Toning</font></h3>
<p>In general, color toning is best performed in RGB space.&nbsp; C*I*E LAB is not very perceptual to work with, and getting the right color and tone is just often not very possible.</p>
<p>C*I*E LAB is great for subtle changes here and there, but not always for overall toning.&nbsp; C*I*E LAB, in this sense, is more of a “go to” set of tools, where its always worth trying, especially if you’re having some trouble getting what you want.&nbsp; Sometimes it works very well and even better than RGB. </p>
<p>But, for general toning, it’s better to stay in the RGB space</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">Saturation (sometimes)</font></h3>
<p>C*I*E LAB, and moreover, Hunter LAB (which is C*I*E-based) is often used for Saturation in image editors, including Sagelight (in some places). </p>
<p><em>This issue is a bit of a double-edged sword, so the following is really more of a guideline and something to think about. </em></p>
<p>C*I*E LAB is great for splitting the light and color and doing certain operations.&nbsp; However, it can change the color of an image. This is because the light and colors run through two successive non-linear transformations in each direction (to C*I*E LAB and back to RGB space).&nbsp; This can cause color drift.</p>
<p>When saturating, this typically shows as a yellowish-to-warm tone on an image.&nbsp; Sometimes, this ‘warming’ effect can be nice, and since many pictures involve landscapes or are outdoors, this can be a nice extra tonal additive to your picture.&nbsp; </p>
<p><em><strong>For skin tones, though, this is sometimes not the best</strong>. </em></p>
<p>This is why Sagelight Saturation and True Color Saturation was developed for Sagelight.&nbsp; In the Pro Quick Edit Mode, try switching between LAB/Perceptual mode (same thing for saturation) and True Color mode.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Also try the Pro Saturation Mode, where you have 13 different methods to get what you’re looking for.&nbsp; When it comes to adding color, its worth trying different modes, because each color space and method looks at your picture differently, and even though some methods will change the color of your image, the fact is that sometimes it just makes it look nicer because its toning your image in an aesthetic direction as it saturates, even if it isn’t technically a nice thing to do.</p>
<h3><font color="#d16349">General Toning (most of the time)</font></h3>
<p>General toning (i.e. when you’re adjusting the light properties, such as shadows, midtones, and highlights). </p>
<p>C*I*E LAB mode is useful for this, but only in certain circumstances.&nbsp; Overall, general toning in C*I*E mode will start to make your image look artificial.</p>
<p>RGB mode is usually better for this, because it brings the color with it in a more natural manner, where in C*I*E LAB mode, you need to adjust the color yourself. For example, when you bring the light down in an image, you want to bring down the saturation too, and vice-versa when adding light. RGB color space does this naturally, but C*I*E LAB color space L-channel toning does not change the color, so you must deal with this yourself. </p>
<p>C*I*E LAB general toning (i.e. on the L channel) is useful for specific circumstances when you know this is what you want – it’s also very useful to work with bringing up shadows (it avoids noise, and generally doesn’t have the same color issues as described above).&nbsp;&nbsp; It’s a good tool to try when you’re looking for something specific that you’re note able to get from the tools in the default RGB color space.</p>
<h2><font color="#0080ff">Conclusion</font></h2>
<p>The C*I*E LAB color space is supported by Sagelight in many modes, some of which are clearly marked as choices, where other modes are behind the scenes to keep the quality of your image as high as possible.</p>
<p>C*I*E LAB color space is known as a way to make changes in your image that keeps the image very clean, keeping color noise from occurring by working just on the luminance channel, without changing the color.&nbsp; This also lets you make color changes without affecting the light. Both have great advantages over just using RGB space.</p>
<p>There are some very powerful things you can do with C*I*E LAB mode, such as using the Power Curves in C*I*E LCH space (a derivative of C*I*E LAB space) or sharpening with the Unsharp Mask or the Power Box. </p>
<p>Always worth looking into and experimenting, it should also be considered secondary to RGB space – a “go to” color space to perform specific functions where it has specific strengths, but not really to be used as a primary editing space.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now SL remembers the last file location regardless whether it was a file read or save operation. This works fine, as long as<br />
the edited file is saved to the same location where the opened file is. But if we save to a different location then the this entails a lot of<br />
directory changes back and forth between the opened and save files locations. <br />
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If instead of the current behaviour SL would remember both the last open file and the last save file locations then it would save a lot of clicks<br />
needed to traverse and move between the two different directory locations.]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, everything is moved over to the new server, and it is a much better environment, mostly because I had to install everything from scratch.  This ended up giving me a lot more flexibility with what I can do with the site and I can do a lot more than I could before. <br />
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It went seamlessly except for one thing that took hours to deal with -- for some reason, I couldn't get it to retrieve e-mails in the mailbox (that were received and placed correctly).  It would retrieve some but not others.  After hours and hours, it turned out that I wasn't setting a path designation in the .conf file for the e-mail.<br />
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While trying to figure out what was going on with the e-mail server an interesting thing happened.  Early in the process, the e-mail server was working just fine.  But, I decided that I should encrypt it sooner than later -- I mean, that was always the plan, but just to get the thing going I was thinking that I could just leave it up and work on this retrieval problem over the next couple days... I mean, what trouble can happen with a fairly little-known website on a brand-new ip address in 2 days? <br />
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My instincts told me to just tough it out, even though it ended up taking a very long time to deal with it.  In the middle of diagnosing the problem, I put up a window that was pulling the e-mail logs on a 30-second or so interval so I could see more-or-less real-time what was going on as I sent and retrieved e-mails from the site. <br />
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And there it was -- I didn't have the server up for more than a few hours and the log was flooded with someone trying to break in using every known name and password for each name.  I had to ban the IP just so I could continue my work. <br />
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While I was a little annoyed at the time it was taking to get the e-mail server fully running (and encrypted), especially since I could have just left it up as an unencrypted site and dealt with the issue over time, had I done that, the new site would have been victim to at least one spammer and sent out thousands and thousands of e-mails by now.   And, if you're running a commercial site, this can cause you to end up on a lot of blacklists which makes sending e-mails to people next to impossible; plus, it can take 1-2 years to get off of these lists. <br />
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Just like the lesson I finally learned about making backups -- that is to say, everything typically goes just fine for the longest time, but when it happens it can be pretty devastating unless you're prepared for it -- the decision to not leave the system unguarded for even just a few hours paid off!<br />
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Plus, I am thinking that when there is sometimes a periodic slowness on the site, this is what may be happening.  So, it gives me a good heads up to check the logs to see if this is what is going on and to do things to kick ips off that are doing such things... <br />
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Really, its just nice when you do a lot of work because experience is telling you to (when your body and your tired brain is telling you to skip it) and it pays off.]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<h3><strong><span style="color:#f79646;">You might be surprised at the answer</span></strong></h3>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">Introduction</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#808080;">(check this article out on the new blog at <span style="color:#3366ff;"><a href="http://www.sagelightblog.com"><span style="color:#3366ff;">www.sagelightblog.com</span></a></span>)</span></p>
<p>An interesting topic came up on the discussion board (<a href="http://www.sagelightforum.com">here</a>) that I thought I’d write about.  It’s regarding the issue of working with JPEG vs RAW when it comes to dark (or otherwise hard-to-deal with images).</p>
<p>Or, for that matter, working with JPEG vs. RAW on a general basis.</p>
<p>There’s a lot of thought out there about working with RAW.  Sagelight supports RAW and, for the record, you’re definitely able to get a better image out of RAW.</p>
<p>Having said, that, though, I don’t think it is always the right approach or necessary for everyone.  I’ll go even further to say that I don’t think that most people – including myself – will ever get more out of RAW from <em>most</em> pictures than they would out of Jpeg.</p>
<p>In fact, I will go even further(er) to say that editing in RAW (again, for most people) will sometimes get a you an image that isn’t as good as the one you started with  &#8211; this is because when you edit with RAW you sometimes need more expertise that the JPEG has helped you to avoid.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#f79646;">Editing with RAW – The Technical Approach</span></strong></p>
<p>Before I go too far and get misunderstood, I want to reiterate that, from a technical perspective, RAW is the best way to go, and Sagelight has a lot of devoted functionality for RAW, and quite a lot of technology has gone into Sagelight 4.0 to support RAW. More technology is currently being built into Sagelight to further RAW support.</p>
<p>I’m basically separating the practical from the technical.  From a technical perspective, RAW will always be more useful and able to generate better results than using a JPEG.</p>
<p>However, from a practical approach, which includes most of us (including myself), the enhancement of a JPEG image is just as good for most pictures and can deliver great results.</p>
<p><span style="color:#f79646;"><strong>The Practical Approach</strong></span></p>
<p>As I said, RAW does have more range, and because of that my personal philosophy is to shoot in RAW (with a jpeg version written out, as well), and to use the jpeg (in the highest quality mode) until I need the RAW.  In fact, this blog entry discuss just that point: <em><a href="http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/keeping-it-simple-using-sagelight-with-small-compact-cameras/">Keeping it Simple – Using Sagelight with Small Compact Cameras</a>.  </em>In this article, I took a sub-compact 12mp (which was really more like 8 max) camera to see what I could do with it &#8212; both with JPEG and RAW (through CHDK).  In the article, I note that for most pictures I used the jpeg, because I just didn&#8217;t need the RAW.  On pictures where I was having problems, I moved to the RAW image with very impressive results I couldn&#8217;t get from the Jpeg.  But, I do want to be careful about that point.  In many cases, this has to do with the way the shadows and highlights were clipped in the jpeg.  If they&#8217;re not there, you can&#8217;t work with them, obviously.  But, if we&#8217;re talking about range-compressed items (which is what we&#8217;re talking about), then it can be a different issue.</p>
<p>In the case of the sub-compact camera, I definitely got some great results from the RAW images, but they were needed in only a couple of the pictures I took.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">Working with JPEG images. in general, as well as those that have high-contrast areas or are dark (or both)</span></strong></p>
<p>There are many reasons why you can work very well with jpeg images, not to mention those that have lighting issues.  A lot of this has to do with new technology, both in cameras and image editors such as Sagelight  Here are the basic issues, which I will discuss about one by one</p>
<blockquote>
<ol>
<li>Jpeg actually has a lot of range.  It&#8217;s the compression ratio that becomes the problem.</li>
<li>The camera processing makes JPEG easier to work with.</li>
<li>A lot of quality problems come from editors (i.e. 8-bit per-channel), rather than the file itself</li>
<li>The RAW image needs to be post-processed, which the JPEG inherits for greater quality</li>
<li>Image sizes are much larger than they used to be.</li>
<li>With noise-reduction and other tools, some of the quality problems can be solved.</li>
<li>What you lose with JPEG vs. RAW</li>
</ol>
</blockquote>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Jpeg actually has a lot of range.</span></h2>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">It&#8217;s the compression ratio that becomes the problem.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">It turns out that 8-bits per-channel can get you</span> a long way.  After all, we are talking about 24-bits of information for each pixel.  Is it as good as 14-bits per-channel that a RAW image might give you, at 64 times the quality? No, definitely not.  But, on the other hand, the extra resolution you get from 14-bits or even 16-bits per-channel, while it definitely helps you in certain areas (such as shadows and color noise), for most images it doesn&#8217;t matter.  Most images do not require very heavy processing.  With those that do, there is quite a bit that cane be done with jpeg.</p>
<p>A lot of the problems we see with JPEG are compression blocks.  An unfortunate problem with the editing world is that <strong><em>HSL</em></strong> color space is used all over the place for adding color and other functions.  This causes a problem with JPEG compression blocks because the way the <em><strong>hue</strong></em> is calculated in HSL space is one of the primary causes for exacerbating jpeg color artifacting. Fortunately, some editors, Sagelight included, use alternate color spaces such as <strong><em>XYZ</em></strong>, <strong><em>LAB</em></strong>, etc. to help avoid these issues.  Nevertheless, JPEG blocks cause a lot of luminance noise and color noise that we&#8217;re all used to seeing.</p>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">A lot of this is historical.</span>  A few short years ago, even with the highest quality setting on a camera, even a moderately-complex image (i.e. with tree branches, or details on a mountainside) would become so decimated as to look artificial.  This would also cause a lot of jpeg compression blocks.  In fact, there were certain camera manufacturers that just couldn&#8217;t seem to avoid compression blocks even on their best settings.</p>
<p>Today, however, things are different.  By now, it&#8217;s clear that if we use the highest quality compression in our digital camera that the quality is much nicer, even if the JPEG file is quite big.  A lot of times we see degraded images because people have compressed them for the web, or set their camera to a lower setting to increase its capacity, which can lead us to believe that JPEG, as a general rule, has lower quality than it can actually achieve.</p>
<p>But, if we&#8217;re interested in a very high quality picture, using the lowest compression setting (i.e. highest quality) in just about any decent camera made today will yield an image that has a quality that is very high and nearly lossless, at least to the human eye and where artifacting is concerned.</p>
<p>A lot of what we&#8217;ve become used to is seeing pictures from just a few years ago, or pictures across the web, when the pictures we edit ourselves today have a lot of quality we may not be aware of.</p>
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<h3><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">A Low-to-Medium-Quality Jpeg Example</span></strong></h3>
<p>Here is a random JPEG image I pulled off the web.  It&#8217;s not too highly compressed, but it&#8217;s not the best quality, either:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-org.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="cat-org" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-org_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=533" alt="cat-org" width="600" height="533" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see, it&#8217;s a pretty dark picture.</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-new.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="cat-new" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-new_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=533" alt="cat-new" width="600" height="533" border="0" /></a><br />Here&#8217;s what I did to it in Sagelight (fairly easily).  As a previously dark picture, a lot of light and color was brought out of it.  <a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/dark/cat-new-full.jpg">Here is a bigger version</a> so you can see how nice it really is.<br /><strong></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#d16349;"><strong>RAW Noise Issues in this Picture</strong> </span></p>
<p>Interestingly, this picture actually had quite a bit of noise.  Here it is, brought out for display:</p>
<h2><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-noise.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="cat-noise" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-noise_thumb.jpg?w=394&#038;h=440" alt="cat-noise" width="394" height="440" border="0" /></a></h2>
<h3><span style="color:#d16349;">Noise in the jpeg & RAW Noise</span></h3>
<p><strong><br /></strong></p>
<p>It turns out that this noise was from the RAW image (i.e. CCD noise)!  JPEG, while lower quality than RAW, does have an ability to keep a lot of quality.  It&#8217;s only in certain places that it loses it.  In this picture, the JPEG, while fairly compressed and lossy, was able to bring out the CCD noise with it.</p>
<p>This level of noise, then, needs to be dealt with whether you&#8217;re using RAW <em>or </em>JPEG.  Here&#8217;s is what I was able to do with it inside of Sagelight (with the Image Smoothing tool):</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-noise2.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="cat-noise2" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/cat-noise2_thumb.jpg?w=394&#038;h=440" alt="cat-noise2" width="394" height="440" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">Much better.</span>  If you look at the larger picture &#8212; the jpeg result from an original jpeg (therefore, compressed at least twice), you can see how smooth it is.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Camera processing makes JPEG easier to work with</span></h2>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">RAW processing is getting better and better. </span></p>
<p>The camera knows itself better than a generic editing program.  There is essentially a different RAW format or variation for each camera.  This is because the manufacturers know what the CCD for that camera is likely to do and how it responds through the lens.  All cameras color-shift in one direction or the other, and this can&#8217;t be known by the editing program.  Of course, we can use the &#8220;As Shot&#8221; or &#8220;Camera&#8221; white balance and other tools to compensate, but is is not the same as what the manufacturers put into the camera based on what that specific CCD is going to do under most circumstances.</p>
<p>This leads to JPEG images that are much easier to work with than the RAW image.  Much of the time, RAW editing it is a two-step process.  You get it from the camera and then you need to process it a little bit so you can work with it some more.  Or, at least, that&#8217;s what should be done for better results.</p>
<p>When the JPEG is loaded from the camera, it&#8217;s sharpened to the right level for the CCD, corrected for the CCD color variances, the noise is removed based on the typical CCD-noise level, lens distortions are corrected based on the zoom factor, and so-forth and so-forth.   The image editor can compensate for some of this as an automatic process, too, but not like the camera can in many cases.</p>
<p>This ultimately results in a picture that is easier to work with from the start.  If you&#8217;re like me, then it just makes it more fun to edit unless your a purist.  I have my purist modes, that&#8217;s for sure, but sometimes I just want to get my pictures, add a little light and color, and that&#8217;s all I need to do.</p>
<p>With RAW, image editing is a commitment for many pictures that would otherwise be just fine after using just a few controls.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">A lot of quality problems come from editors (i.e. 8-bit per-channel), rather than the file itself </span></h2>
<p>This is another historical point that may have inadvertently become a generalized point of view that is now outdated: we&#8217;re all used to seeing problems with jpeg images.  As mentioned above, one of those issues is a high-compression ratio rather than a low one.  Another one of those problems is banding caused by editing.  It&#8217;s become somewhat of a background concept that if you edit a JPEG that you&#8217;re going to experience banding very quickly.</p>
<p>That <em>used</em> to be true.  But, with higher quality JPEGs and 16-bit per-channel editors, this is not nearly as true as it used to be.  If an editor doesn&#8217;t work in 16-bits per-channel at every level, you can see banding occur very quickly.  But, this is not a JPEG issue, as you would see this with a RAW image, too.  It&#8217;s the 8-bit per-channel operations that are more responsible for this than anything else.</p>
<p><span style="color:#d16349;"><strong>Editors Defaulting to 8-bits per-channel</strong></span><br />Some editors that support 16-bits per-channel default to 8-bits per-channel (Sagelight does not have an 8-bit-per-channel mode and is in at least 16-bit-per-channel mode at all times).  It becomes easy to edit in the default mode, as it is typically faster.  With 16-bits per-channel, more memory and horsepower is required.  Sometimes banding occurs even in very expensive editors because the mode is set to 8-bits per-channel by default.</p>
<p>Basically, if you&#8217;re in a minimum 16-bit per-channel environment from the beginning of the editing process and stay there, the original 8-bit-per-channel JPEG can go a long way.  This also means that if you save the image out to work on later that you shouldn&#8217;t save it as a jpeg, but a 16-bit-per-channel TIFF or some other format that supports the higher quality, saving out the final image as a  JPEG (especially with lower quality settings for the web) in a different file.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0080ff;">The RAW image needs to be post-processed, which the JPEG inherits for greater quality </span></h2>
<p><span style="color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#0080ff;">The higher quality in RAW is not as linear as you might think</span>.</span></p>
<p>A RAW image in its form in the RAW file or on the memory card doesn&#8217;t look anything like the JPEG your camera gives you.  As I mentioned above, the camera compensates for a number of things, such as noise, lens distortion, and so-forth.</p>
<p>Another thing that the camera does is adjust for light.</p>
<p>The reason RAW has all that range is because the picture starts off as a very dark picture so the range does not overflow..  For example, let&#8217;s take a look at this picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-raw.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-raw" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-raw_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=529" alt="raw-raw" width="600" height="529" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-raw-hist.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-raw-hist" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-raw-hist_thumb.jpg?w=240&#038;h=164" alt="raw-raw-hist" width="240" height="164" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#0080ff;">This is basically how a picture looks as a RAW image.</span>  This <em>is</em> the light level in the RAW picture.  When Sagelight (or some other RAW-enabled editor) gets it, there are a number of standard operations that need to occur.  Among them is a<em> <strong>gamma curve</strong></em>.  So, when you see the RAW for the first time, it looks something like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-basic.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-basic" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-basic_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=529" alt="raw-basic" width="600" height="529" border="0" /></a><br />Image after the gamma-curve adjustment: this looks much better, but still not the way you would get it as a Jpeg</p>
<h3><span style="color:#f79646;"><span style="color:#d16349;">RAW Post-Processing</span> </span></h3>
<p>Editors such as Lightroom, Nikon, Sagelight, et. al., post-process the RAW image for some default settings in order to get it to look more like you would get from the JPEG.  Here is what the image looks like when Sagelight automatically processes the RAW:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-processed.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-processed" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-processed_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=529" alt="raw-processed" width="600" height="529" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-new-hist.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-new-hist" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-new-hist_thumb.jpg?w=240&#038;h=164" alt="raw-new-hist" width="240" height="164" border="0" /></a><br />Definitely nicer, and much more like what I would expect to see directly from the camera.<br />Let&#8217;s take another look at the two histograms:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-hist-2x.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="raw-hist-2x" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/raw-hist-2x_thumb.jpg?w=597&#038;h=245" alt="raw-hist-2x" width="597" height="245" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>When you get the image from the camera, you get a histogram that looks like the one on the right.  Unfortunately, sometimes the camera goes too far and clips the black points and white points in the JPEG (<em><strong>some editors do this as well</strong></em>!), and this is where RAW starts to make more sense.  But, for the most part, a good camera will give you a histogram something like the one on the right for the given image.</p>
<p>This means that the RAW has had to go through quite a process just to become presentable.</p>
<p>This stretches the pixels in the image and basically reduces the quality of the image.  That is, from a technical perspective, it&#8217;s still very high quality, but the main thing to note about this is that the JPEG – as delivered from the camera – inherits this quality because it occurs on the RAW image <em>before</em> its is converted to the JPEG.</p>
<p>Therefore, it is not a 1-to-1 correlation that RAW images are always that much better than JPEG, so much so that you are always losing too much to consider if you edit a JPEG.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, RAW <em>will</em> give you more quality, and as I mentioned, I shoot in a dual mode that gives me both the RAW and JPEG on every picture because I do want to edit in RAW when I feel I should.  However, in 90%-95% of the pictures from typical cameras, it&#8217;s can be easier to deal with the JPEG in an environment that will incur essentially no visible quality loss.</p>
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<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Image sizes are much larger than they used to be </span></h2>
<p>Another reason that editing with JPEG poses less problems vs. RAW than they once did is due to large image sizes.  Now that images are in the 10+ megapixel range on the smallest cameras, much more error in an image can occur with no consequences.  For example, if you once printed a 1600&#215;1200 image at 8&#215;10, it would not look very good &#8212; even if it had no problems to speak of.</p>
<p>Now, with image sizes around 5000&#215;4000, when you print an image at 8&#215;10, that&#8217;s roughly 400dpi.  The human eye doesn&#8217;t really care about much more than 200dpi. This means we have a lot to work with.  We can have noise, artifacts, and other errors in our image that are now no longer noticed whether we print the image or post it on the web.</p>
<p>Essentially, when we resize the image by printing or posting, we get a technical quality boost by merging the pixels together to average out the noise. With noise-reduction and other tools, some of the quality problems can be solved</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">With Noise-Reduction and other tools, some of the quality problems can be solved</span></h2>
<p>You may remember this set of pictures:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-org.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="statue-org" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-org_thumb.jpg?w=490&#038;h=423" alt="statue-org" width="490" height="423" border="0" /></a><br />A random JPEG grabbed from the internet (8 bits per-channel)</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-pass1.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="statue-pass1" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-pass1_thumb.jpg?w=490&#038;h=421" alt="statue-pass1" width="490" height="421" border="0" /></a><br />The result from using the LightBlender in Sagelight  (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/statue-pass1-big.jpg">a much bigger image for comparison</a>)</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re talking about heavy processing of JPEGs &#8212; or any image for that matter &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t get much tougher than this.  I don&#8217;t think most people realize that a simple jpeg compressed for Flickr could have such quality.  I was surprised myself.</p>
<p>This image is a good example of working with a dark JPEG, because I really wanted to <em>darken</em> it when I was done for effect.  My result image really didn&#8217;t need the quality I was able to get out of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-pass2a.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="statue-pass2a" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/statue-pass2a_thumb.jpg?w=498&#038;h=425" alt="statue-pass2a" width="498" height="425" border="0" /></a><br />Final Image uses less quality then I needed.</p>
<p>Of course, it was great to get that level of quality out of it in the first place, and it helped me create a moody picture that had the same tonal qualities of the original, but much sharper with high-definition on the statue&#8217;s face.</p>
<h3><span style="color:#f79646;"><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">New Technology and Tools</span></strong> </span></h3>
<p>One of the reasons I was able to get this level of quality from a simple JPEG was the technology available in tools these days.  In this case, I used the Sagelight Lightblender to help bring out the light, but also other tools like the <em>Image Smoother</em>, <em>Undo Brush</em>, and <em>Dodge and Burn</em> brush to help correct issues are add & subtract tone where I wanted it.</p>
<p>With the tools available today in high-end power editors, you can do much more with JPEGs without requiring the original RAW, but also correct for problems with the JPEG.  See the next section for some details.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">What you lose with JPEG vs. RAW </span></h2>
<p>As I mentioned, you do get more data from a RAW.  There&#8217;s no doubt about that, and sometimes it shows.  But, as mentioned in the previous section, there is a lot you can compensate for with tools like noise reduction, the Undo Brush, etc.</p>
<p>Here is the image uploaded for the original question about how to deal with contrasty images in Sagelight:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/light-org.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="light-org" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/light-org_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=600" alt="light-org" width="600" height="600" border="0" /></a><br />(image credit: Charles McLaughlin)</p>
<p>This does turn out to be a challenging picture from the perspective of bringing out the light as a JPEG.  But, from the perspective of bringing up the light, it&#8217;s fairly easy:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/light-vignette.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="light-vignette" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/light-vignette_thumb.jpg?w=595&#038;h=593" alt="light-vignette" width="595" height="593" border="0" /></a></p>
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<h3><span style="color:#f79646;"><strong><span style="color:#d16349;">Noise in JPEG images you don&#8217;t see in RAW</span></strong> </span></h3>
<p><strong></strong>This image certainly has some noise issues associated with data loss at the 8-bit-per-channel level.  Here is an example (it has to be big to show the problems & solution):</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/noise1.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="noise1" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/noise1_thumb.jpg?w=562&#038;h=1444" alt="noise1" width="562" height="1444" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see, this part of the image, once lightened, shows a lot of image noise and problems.  This doesn&#8217;t look very good, and if it had been loaded as a RAW image, this noise would probably not exist.<br />However, there are some ways to deal with it.  In Sagelight, you can do the following for the black areas:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. Use the Median Function.  Set a radius that is large enough to get rid of the splotches.<br />2. Use the Threshold Slider (in &#8220;non-traditional mode&#8221;) with a setting that just avoids the splotches.<br />3. Use the Undo Brush to paint in the changes (i.e. start with the original image, and put back in the median changes).</p></blockquote>
<p>With the Red areas on the hand:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. Select these areas with the Auto Masking<br />2. Set a tiny feather.<br />3. Reduce the Saturation.<br />4. Bring up the light with the RGB controls, curves, or whatever you&#8217;re comfortable with</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is the result:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/noise2.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="noise2" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/noise2_thumb.jpg?w=559&#038;h=1441" alt="noise2" width="559" height="1441" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Now that looks much better, and if we were to print it or post it, it would never be discernible that this once had such problems.   It still has a little noise.  I don’t need to worry about what I left behind, because, as you can see from the original picture, this is a 200% closeup of a very large picture: these artifacts will never show.  I just needed to take care of the big stuff.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0000ff;">Conclusion</span></h2>
<p>When it comes to working with JPEG instead of RAW, there is plenty of room for getting great results.</p>
<p>From a technical perspective, you can always get a better picture from a RAW image, as it just has more range and more data, especially when it comes to shadows and highlights.</p>
<p>But, from a more practical point of view, and with 90%-95% of the pictures delivered as a JPEG from the camera, between the ease of working with a JPEG automatically adjusted by the camera, and the quality inherent in today’s JPEG compression methods, working with JPEGs instead of RAW offers a lot of advantages.</p>
<p>Since the JPEG is pre-processed from the camera and inherits a lot of processing at the 16-bit-per-channel level, much of the time, the JPEG can be adjusted for small elements like light and color, but also more aggressively for issues such as shadows and highlights.</p>
<p>It is a good move to have the camera write out both RAW and JPEG, even though it may cost space on the memory card, because then you can choose which to work with – defaulting to the JPEG when it doesn’t matter, and then using the RAW when too much data has been lost due to cut shadows or blown-out highlights.</p>
<p>In many cases, as shown above, some of the damaging factors that do sometimes occur due to the JPEG limitations can be corrected, especially with such large file sizes so that the problems can average out more easily when printed or upload to the web.</p>
<p>While RAW is always going to be the more technical and sometimes more aesthetic choice, working with JPEG images tends to be much easier (and sometimes more enjoyable). For most (but, by no means, all) pictures, the quality loss is not enough to keep from getting great images comparable to RAW results, especially in the realm of powerful editors that can help you along the way.</p>
<p><em><span style="color:#a5a5a5;">cat image credit: <span style="color:#666666;">“Merlin Dark”</span> by</span> <strong><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42dreams/">Mel B</a></strong></em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are currently two blogs for Sagelight.  They're both identical, and the idea is that Sagelightblog.com will be migrated to from the other one.  But, it's just as easy to keep them both up for the visibility. <br />
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But, they're also in alternative universes!  One has a white-background motif and the other a black-background motif. <br />
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I was wondering what you think looks better?  I like the stylish dark-gray-on-black of the new one with the reflections on the images.  On the other hand, white might look more friendly and less constraining. <br />
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The new one has some nice gadgets, like the 3-D tag cloud, but I can put those on the white-background style -- the main thing is that I can do all of the nice gadgets on the new blog at www.sagelightblog.com because I am hosting it myself; the one with the wordpress.com url has a lot of limitations. <br />
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But, just from a general overview, I'm wondering what you think looks better: <br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com</a> or<br />
<a href='http://www.sagelightblog.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelightblog.com</a><br />
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They have the same articles with just a different style.<br />
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Thanks for your opinions... <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chat function is now working.  I thought I'd mention it since I've received a couple e-mails about it being broken.  It supports up to 5 people at a time. <br />
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If it's something that becomes popular enough, I can get another license for it with more users. <br />
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Rob]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just set up a gallery section where you can post your own pictures.  You can set up your own gallery or post in the Sagelight User's Gallery to show off your work. <br />
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In the last few months, I've seen such great work from people using Sagelight, work too good not to be shared!  So, please feel free to upload your images.  I think this works much better than the old discussion board where every post had to be an individual message.<br />
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With these galleries, you can post individual images or entire galleries, and you can also put descriptions of your image.  You can allow other people to comment on your images, as well.  I'll look forward to seeing them.]]></description>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Just a Simple Vignette</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#999999;">(check this article out on the new blog at <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.sagelightblog.com/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">www.sagelightblog.com</span></a></span>)</span></p>
<p>I was going to write the second part to the <em><span style="color:#c0504d;">Tone Blender introduction</span></em>, but in the process of looking for examples, I realized that sometimes its just very simple things that can make the biggest difference.</p>
<p>One of those things is a vignette.  A vignette can be very subtle where it focuses the subject, but also not noticeable unless you know it’s there (i.e. you’re the one that added it).  Or, you can add one that is obvious, which is what I want to show here.</p>
<p style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#0000ff;text-decoration:underline;"><strong>A note about dissonance with the examples in this article:</strong></span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="color:#333399;">An interesting phenomenon with image editing is that when images that are very different are compared against one another, the result can look artificial.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="color:#333399;">In the example below, the eyes change fairly dramatically from the original image to the final image, and when you are comparing the images to each other directly (by scrolling up an down), the concept of dissonance between the images may become apparent.  Try putting the result (with brighter eyes) on the screen, go away for a couple minutes, and come back – it should look more natural.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:60px;"><span style="color:#333399;"><em>Keep in mind that due to the nature of the blog, the before & after images are shown in close proximity, where a final edit in any other circumstance is the only image presented</em>.</span></p>
<p>Here is a basic picture</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_org-400.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="girl_org-400" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_org-400_thumb.jpg?w=400&#038;h=797" alt="girl_org-400" width="400" height="797" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Already, on its own, it is a very cute picture.  If we add a vignette:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_1-400.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border-width:0;" title="girl_1-400" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_1-400_thumb.jpg?w=400&#038;h=797" alt="girl_1-400" width="400" height="797" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Suddenly, the picture takes on a different form. The girl is much more centered in the picture, and the vignette helps to frame the picture in a natural manner.</p>
<h3><span style="color:#c0504d;">Vignette Controls in the Power Box</span></h3>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The <em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Tone Blender Presets</span></em> in the<em> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Power Box</span></em> allow you to</span> use the Vignette very easily.  Just Launch the Power Box, and then Select the “<em><span style="color:#c0504d;">Color Tones Button</span></em>”.  When the menu comes up with the presets, select <em>“<span style="color:#c0504d;">Vignette Only</span></em>”.</p>
<p>In this case, I used the “<em><span style="color:#c0504d;">Hard Vignette</span></em>” style and moved the vignette to center more around the girl’s face.</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">You can try it yourself:</span></p>
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<li><span style="color:#cccccc;"><span style="color:#666666;">Load the Image in its original size</span> (<a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/SimpleVignette/girl_org.jpg">click here for a larger version</a>)</span></li>
<li><span style="color:#cccccc;"><span style="color:#666666;">When you’re in the</span><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> <em>Quick Edit Mode</em></span></span> <span style="color:#666666;">with the</span></span><span style="color:#666666;"> image, click on the menu entry “<em><span style="color:#c0504d;">Load Profile</span></em>” and load the profile listed below. </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#cccccc;"><span style="color:#666666;">Save the profile to your drive:</span> <a href="http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/SimpleVignette/vignettegirl-1.QuickEdit.slp">Right-Click here, and then save the link to the same filename on your drive</a></span></li>
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<h2><span style="color:#0080ff;">Just a Couple Touch-ups</span></h2>
<p>The nice thing about image editing in Sagelight is that it is designed to do things in small steps.  It’s the better way to edit, and it allows you to try things to see if they work; if they don’t, you can just undo it and try something else, and if they do, then you can move on to other things to make your image look even better.</p>
<p>Here is what I did with this image with just a few steps:</p>
<p><a href="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_1_final3d.jpg"><img style="background-image:none;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;display:inline;padding-top:0;border:0;" title="girl_1_final3d" src="http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/girl_1_final3d_thumb.jpg?w=400&#038;h=797" alt="girl_1_final3d" width="400" height="797" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>In some ways, not too different, but in other ways these few changes make all the difference (scroll up to compare to the original).  I did this in a <span style="color:#c0504d;"><em>freestyle</em></span><span style="color:#bbbbbb;">*</span> editing form with just a few changes:</p>
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<li><span style="color:#666666;">I used the Skin Smoothing function to get rid of the blemishes from her skin (either dirt or perhaps image noise) </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#666666;">Use the Soft Focus function to add a glow to the image </span></li>
<li><span style="color:#666666;">Brightened the eyes with the LightBlender </span></li>
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<p>In almost all portrait pictures, I also use the Dodge and Burn Brush for just light touches, followed-up by the Undo Brush to blend back in only what I want to keep.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0080ff;">If I were to go further with this image</span></h2>
<p><span style="color:#c0504d;">and some comments/suggestions on the image-editing workflow</span></p>
<p>In many cases, when I put out examples to the web, I draw back from what I would personally do, mostly because I want to make a point about something and I don’t want to get carried away – I take the risk of doing something to an image I might like, where some people might have preferred that I went another direction, and I want to stay focused on the point.</p>
<p>But, there is another reason.  As a general philosophy, it’s good to take a break from an image, to do it in two pieces.  We can tend to get saturated with how we’re seeing the work-in-progress when we really need to relate it to the world around us.</p>
<p>Another reason I stop short is because I did the above example in one session.  Now that I’ve taken a break from it and have “unsaturated” or defocused myself from the image as I was editing it, I can see a lot of things I’d like to go on with.  Still simple things, but, after being refreshed from editing it, I get a clear impression of what I want to do with it.</p>
<p>If I were to continue on this picture, I would deepen the contrast around the edges and lighten up the face in certain areas – I would use the Dodge and Burn brush for both things, as it gives a great contrast and also is perfect for adding uneven light, which is called for in most pictures, but most definitely when it comes to skin tones and faces.</p>
<p>Also, I would brighten the eyes a little bit (either with the Light Blender or general masking), and then add some color.  I didn’t do it here because I wanted to make sure I didn’t add too much light and color to the eyes and make them look unnatural.  As it is, I see that I really want to go just a little bit further.</p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>(addendum: I came back and brought the eyes up.  The comments  above regarding the eyes refer to the image before I reposted it)</em></span></p>
<p><em></em>As a tip, when working with the eyes in this manner, my suggestion is to always step back just a little bit and then come back to it (in as little as 30 seconds), because this is an area where adding too much light and color can introduce an artificial sense to an image.  This is a good example of why it’s good to break any more than simple editing (i.e. adding some fill light, color; that is, anything where you’re really going for something) into a couple steps.</p>
<p>When I say “take a break” I really mean something as simple as checking the news on the Internet or checking e-mail – just something to distract you from the editing session for a few seconds so that you can look at the image from a fresh point of view.  I personally like to get to a certain point and then move onto another image or other things, and then return to the image later.  But, from a practical sense, it really is just a matter of defocusing from the image for any length of time.</p>
<h2><span style="color:#0080ff;">Conclusion</span></h2>
<p>Sometimes something as simple as adding a vignette can make a very big impact in a picture, and it can also lead to other things.</p>
<p>In this image, once I added the vignette, it led me to do other simple things to the image.  All-in-all, the entire editing process for this image was just a few minutes. A few simple things combined together for an image with an entirely different tone that also has brighter eyes and smoother skin.</p>
<p>Sometimes, all an image needs is just one or two touch ups, such as fill light, saturation boost, or a vignette. Other times, just starting with something simple to get the process going can inspire us to go on to a number of things we start to see will make the image nicer.</p>
<p>In this case, the end result started with one simple operation: adding a vignette.</p>
<p><span style="color:#666666;"><span style="color:#cccccc;">Image Credit:</span><span style="color:#a5a5a5;"><em> <span style="color:#666666;">“Cute Eyed Girl”</span></em></span></span><span style="color:#cccccc;"> by </span><strong><a href="/photos/ingjoseherrera/">Ing. Jose Herrera</a></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#797979;">*</span><span style="color:#a5a5a5;"><em>Freestyle Editing is defined by editing in a manner that has no plan, but just creative flow.</em></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob, here's something that I'd like to hear your opinion on, and maybe see if you have any thoughts about how to implement something like this for beginners.  It's basically what to do with high contrast photos.  Stated another way, you sometimes can't avoid taking a picture that has a "U"-shaped histogram (lots at the high and low ends, but not much in the middle), because of the dynamic range of light present in the photo subject.  My camera (Panasonic FZ-28) actually has an adaptive ISO algorithm that helps reduce that problem, but it's still a very common situation. Of course, what you'd like to achieve is the nice "bell curve" type of histogram.  You can try reducing the contrast, but somehow that usually doesn't give very satisfying results because of how it flattens the mid-tones.  You can use the Shadows and Highlights sliders to bring the bottom up and the top down, and sometimes get fairly decent results.  And, of course, you can use the LightBlender to do finer adjustments on highlights and shadows.<br />
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Now, I know that you can't get detail in a photo where there isn't any to begin with, when you have drastically over- or under-exposed areas.  Some photos you're just not going to be able to fix.  But I'm wondering if there isn't a good algorithm for "correcting" highly over/underexposed areas, something that "teases apart" the highly compressed pixels at the top and bottom, to give a more natural distribution.  Not sure how, but it would be nice if it didn't create obvious monotone blocks of "almost white" or "almost black" pixels, which often happens if you get too aggressive trying to coax out detail where none exists.  And could such an algorithm be controlled with two or three sliders - for example, one to control which pixels are affected and by how much (selection curve), one for general "aggressiveness" of the high/low-end exposure decompression, and one to add some detail or contrast (or randomness??) specifically in those areas so they don't end up looking so "flat".<br />
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I know, much of what I'm saying can be done with the Power Box tools.  I don't pretend to know know what I'm talking about, or if what I'm asking is even doable, but it seems like such a common problem that it would be great to have a simple "try this first" tool specifically aimed at addressing this situation.<br />
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So, as I said, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts - or anyone else's!]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know of a good php Lightbox?  I was going to put a number of galleries on the discussion board, but I would rather keep that for people who want to post their work, rather than flooding it with Sagelight examples and losing those submissions in the process. <br />
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Now that I have this new server going, I'm thinking that getting some nice php lightbox software might be a good alternative; something where I can upload images, create galleries with descriptions, etc. -- plus something with a nice display.  <br />
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Anyone know of some good ones?  Free, cheap, moderately priced? <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Announcing Sagelight Example Galleries</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sagelight has many before & after examples that show Sagelight’s power and strength, with some great and remarkable results.  They are now collected in one location at <a href='http://gallery.sagelighteditor.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>gallery.sagelighteditor.com</a> where you can see more of what Sagelight can do and how easy it is to use.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Screenshot of the gallery page</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://gallery.sagelighteditor.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/gallery-screenshot21.jpg?w=556&h=829' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Example Galleries</span></strong><br />
At the moment, the following galleries are included on the gallery page.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>General Before & After Images</span></strong><br />
This gallery contains over 50 before & after images that you can overlay on top of each other as they fade in and out to see a direct comparison of how Sagelight changed the image.  These vary from very simple pictures to more advanced retouching and artistic approaches.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>LightBlender Before & After Images</span></strong><br />
This gallery contains before & after pictures of images that were created with the <em class='bbc'>LightBlender</em> from an original source image.  In about half of the images, only the LightBlender was used, and in others the LightBlender was an integral part of the overall process.  An interesting thing to note in this gallery is the two-pass examples, where the LightBlender was used on two successive passes for much more dramatic results.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Duotones Created with Sagelight</span></strong><br />
This gallery shows duotones created from black-and-white (or color images converted to black-and-white) source images.<br />
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Duotones can be traditional sepia-tinted pictures to full-color tone images that look as if they were taken in color but with a surreal and stark look, combining the qualities of a black-and-white image with the depth of a color image.<br />
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In some cases, “<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Multi-Tone</span></em>” images were created that use two or three base tones instead of one for interesting effects.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Subcompact Camera Examples</span></strong><br />
This gallery shows how Sagelight was able to take pictures from the lowest quality level of camera: the subcompact.  The images were taken with a Canon 12MP (with a <em class='bbc'>lot</em> of noise and very low CCD quality, as well as a low-quality lens) subcompact camera.<br />
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The images were treated with Sagelight, some of them being from RAW sources using CHDK.<br />
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The results are great, and <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #000000'><span class='bbc_underline'>one of the pictures, “<span style='color: #0000ff'>Port Townsend</span>” was called the best picture of Port Townsend on the Internet by the people at Fort Warden</span> (located just outside of Port Townsend).</span></em><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Google Streetview Examples</span></strong><br />
This gallery contains Google Streetview images edited with Sagelight to look great. These pictures were originally automated, fairly low-resolution, problematic, and dull.  The challenge is to find a picture and turn it into something you’d take if you were there instead of a lifeless, automated camera.<br />
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I’m still trying to get this going as a genre… <img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/wlemoticon-smile.png?w=584' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Pictures of Dominique Gregoire</span></strong><br />
This gallery contains pictures taken by Dominique Gregoire and edited in Sagelight as a primary editing tool.  He’s graciously given permission to host the gallery and, I think you’ll agree, he’s a great photographer and has a great sense of subtlety when it comes to the post-processing/editing realm.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Screenshots</span></strong><br />
This gallery contains several full-sized screenshots showing Sagelight doing various things in various modes.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>More Example Galleries Coming Soon</span></strong><br />
Now that there is a cohesive, structured place for Sagelight examples, I’ll be posting a few more galleries as I get enough examples.<br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'><strong class='bbc'>Makeover Gallery</strong>.</span> One of the things that Sagelight is great at is the makeover – removing wrinkles, smoothing skin, and otherwise making skin tone and features look great – realistically, as opposed to a lot of fake results you might see out there.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Tone Blender Gallery.</span></strong>  I am working on some <em class='bbc'>Tone Blender</em> examples at the moment and will post the gallery as soon as I get enough.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #f79646'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Other Galleries</span>.</span></strong>  There’s a lot more functionality coming soon to Sagelight that will add to even more great examples.  Or, if you have some suggestions, let me know!<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/announcing-sagelight-example-galleries/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>View the full article</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[The term 'Image Editing' and the Ansel Adams Factor]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I'm getting pretty close to being able to start the book project, a few concepts are starting to become more prominent than otthers.  One of those concepts is Image Editing vs Image Enhancement. <br />
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I've been thinking of titles, such as<br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'>Image Editing Made Simple</span><br />
SImple and Creative Image Editing with Sagelight<br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'>Creative Image Editing for Beginners and Hobbyists</span><br />
A how-to book on Image Editing and using Sagelight<br />
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Ok, well, I have a ways to go on the exact title. <br />
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But, the idea of exactly what 'Image Editing' is comes up, and I am sure this will be an article in the book. <br />
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<span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #4169E1'>The History of Image Editing </span></span><br />
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I wrote a blog article a while back where I presented two images taken by digital cameras.  Both images were of a similar subject, but were taken years apart. <br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/ea-oldcamera.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
This is the older image, taken about 7-8 years ago<br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/ea-newcamera.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
This is the newer image taken just a couple years ago. <br />
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My point in the blog post was that what I want to do with image editing with each picture is very different.  With the first picture, I want to make it presentable.  That's what I want to do.  That's more of what 'Image Editing' tends to represent, because that's one of the things it always represented in the past: fixing things. <br />
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In the second image, what I want to do it to make it shine!  Of course, I want to do that with the first image, but I have to make it presentable first, and it just is never going to look as good as the second image.  We were just talking about rules-of-thumb, and this is another one: the better the image is when you get it into the editor, the better you can make it look.  <br />
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Basically, the second image is already presentable as a nice picture.  It can use some simple things, such as contrast and maybe a little color -- both simple operations (such as the contrast slider and the Vibrance slider). But, after that, I can add a vignette, use the Lightblender to really bring out some light, Dodge and Burn a couple areas -- all fairly simple operations by themselves. <br />
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In this case, I'm not trying to fix problems because it doesn't have "problems" like the older picture (such as being too bright in the highlights, and not enough detail in the shadows) but, rather, has a lot of potential to look better -- to give me the ability to express my creativity and artistry with the image. <br />
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For me, that's been the evolution of what we call 'Image Editing'.  But, does that term really fit any longer?<br />
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<span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #4169E1'>Image Editing vs. Image Enhancement</span></span><br />
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If you think about it in terms of making a movie, "film editing" is definitely an art, but it isn't about setting lighting, angles, or mood with an a film.  It's about cutting and chopping a film in certain areas to maintain continuity and interest. <br />
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In image-editing terms, part of that would be cropping, resizing, and otherwise manipulating the image to fit into a certain criteria. <br />
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Or, if you "edit" a document, it's the same thing -- it's not <em class='bbc'>writing </em>a document or <em class='bbc'>directing </em>a movie. <br />
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With image-editing, I think we've come to the same place where the term "Image Editing" still makes one think of the more cut-and-dry, perfunctory tasks of fixing-up an image for things like red-eye, brightness/shadow problems, etc. <br />
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However, now (and even more in the near-future) we're in a place where an image starts off just fine, just like the second image above.  It's plain, but its fine. <br />
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So, now editing with such images is no longer the job of fixing it, but the fun of being creative with it, of using it as a starting point to express our own creativity, whether its spontaneous (i.e. just playing around with some controls and functions to see what happens, which is the way I edit) or something more methodically planned like making a nice surreal sepia-toned image. <br />
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The term "Image Enhancement" comes up in place of "Image Editing", but that, by itself has problems.  It's been used as a niche factor.  It was suggested a long time ago that I call Sagelight (when it was called Lightbox) an "Image Ehancement" editor, which was an interesting suggestion.  I decided against because I felt it was putting it into too much of a corner, because it has a lot of other functions as well. <br />
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In the realm of editors, you have different types of editors.  I forget what they're all called, but Sagelight fits into what is called the Power Editor realm, as opposed to something that is more oriented towards making postcard-like images with butterflies, being limited in scope to specifically help one group (such as beginners, or RAW, or professionals).  Sagelight is clearly oriented towards helping beginners-to-advanced hobbyists, with quite a few professional-level applications (i.e. Power Curves, LAB/HSL modes, etc.), stopping short of being too oriented to any one group in order  to stay in the middle where I think most people are. <br />
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So, I decided against using the term "Image Enhancement" because I felt it was going to orient Sagelight in the wrong direction.<br />
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<span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #4169E1'>Creative Image Editing</span></span><br />
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I'm thinking of the term "Creative Image Editing", more than just a  description but also as a term to coin to describe not only where Sagelight wants to be, but to describe where most people are in the editing world now, in general.  Whether you use Sagelight, Lightroom, FastStone (free and recommended), GIMP, or another editor -- most of what we do now is to do creative things with our images.<br />
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The main thing is that the genre I'm referring to is the idea of taking a picture and creating the artistic vision from it.  This is not really too inclusive (except where there is a clear crossover, and there is..) of graphic-art-style retouching, generally known as "photoshopping" (ala Anne Geddes, et. al.), but more of the Ansel Adams type of work where you've taken a still picture and want to bring out what you were seeing in your mind when you took it, or what you're seeing in your mind now, or just following the creative flow going on while you're exploring your image in the image editor. <br />
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That's how I personally edit -- I really never get the same picture twice from the same original image.  I just bring the picture in and see where I can go with it, and its different every time.  Of course, I have the core things I want to do and general things (i.e. "workflow") that I do with most pictures, but after that, its just a matter of what is striking me at the time. <br />
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<span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #4169E1'>The "Ansel Adams" Expression</span></span><br />
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In a nutshell, maybe this is what I'm looking for: the term that refers to the Ansel Adams style of editing, where you're  taking an existing picture and expressing your creative side with it. <br />
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"Creative Image Editing" seems ok, but it would be interesting to get some ideas to express the concept/genre of editing that I think is really more the mainstream now than anything else.]]></description>
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		<title>Clone Tool?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I try to avoid using the PS Clone Tool, there are times it is unavoidable. Is there a method in SL that can give me a similar result. I have tried using the Undo Brush but it is not really the same thing. Hard to do the reverse (undo) when you don't have something to start out. Undo Brush is also not detailed enough for spot or small area cloning.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Video Tutorials Posted in the Sagelight Example Gallery</title>
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<strong class='bbc'>Video Tutorials Posted in the Sagelight Example Gallery</strong><br />
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I just added all of the video tutorials on Youtube into the Gallery.<br />
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The tutorials can be found all in one place, nicely formatted along with all other Sagelight examples.  You can watch them inline or open then full-screen to see them in HD video.<br />
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18 Tutorials and 6 other videos were posted in the following galleries:<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Video Tutorials</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://sagelighteditor.com/galleries/index.php?album=SagelightVideoTutorials' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/vidgallery1.jpg?w=268&#038;h=240' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.com/galleries/index.php?album=SagelightVideoTutorials' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Video Tutorials</span></a><br />
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This contains 18 tutorials on the various aspects of Sagelight, including the Light Blender, Undo Brush, Quick Edit Mode, Curves, Vibrance, and so-forth.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>60-Second Video Examples and Tutorials</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://sagelighteditor.com/galleries/index.php?album=60-SecondVideoExamplesTutorials' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/vidgallery2.jpg?w=268&#038;h=240' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.com/galleries/index.php?album=60-SecondVideoExamplesTutorials' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>60-Second Video Examples and Tutorials</span></a><br />
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This video gallery contains 6 examples of Sagelight working to change an image in less than a minute, set to music.  It was an experiment to see if it could be a way to quickly show some of Sagelights functions.  Let me know if you want to see more.<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Just a nit - the title of the Save File dialog window</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob, FYI, I just happened to notice that the window title on the Save File dialog still says "Save File -- Lightbox Image Editor".]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Power Curves: Using HSL Color Space</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was writing some general articles on the technology in Sagelight with regard to the support for multiple color spaces when I came upon some interesting examples of using the HSL color space.<br />
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Each color space in Sagelight has a usefulness to it that can be used to bring out elements in an image unlike any other color space.  In the next few months, I intend to write about all of the color spaces supported in the Power Curves, Image Blending, Pro Quick Edit Mode, etc., starting with the HSL color space today.<br />
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The HSL color space (Hue, Saturation, and Luminance) is a traditional color space that has been around for a long time.  It has some great uses for image processing, but also has some drawbacks.<br />
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Below is a discussion on using HSL in the Power Curves and using HSL, in general.  The topics presented below are just one part of using HSL and this is basically an introduction. You can also use HSL in the Pro Quick Edit mode, in the Power Box, and other places.  I will discuss more about using HSL in other posts.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Where HSL is Useful</span></strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Changing Colors</span></strong><br />
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Unlike other color spaces, HSL has an amazing fidelity with colors as you change them.  In other modes, such as C*I*E LAB, XYZ, and other color spaces, the colors can drift and become washed out.<br />
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If you want to change green grass to blue as an effect, for example, HSL will keep the color nice and deep.  Or, if you just want to do a subtle change, HSL can be more faithful and interesting than other color spaces.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Example</span></strong><br />
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Here’s an interesting image done in the Power Curves. It is a picture that is highly saturated by its nature and is a good example of the quality inherent in the HSL color space when used for its strengths.<br />
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Since this color is very saturated, it may not be the typical picture you work with.  See the next set of images for a more practical example.<br />
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The highly-saturated image below shows how HSL can be used to manipulate color with a high degree of accuracy, both for images with a lot of color, but also for images in general, especially where there are pronounced colors you want to change without fading them or creating noise.<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_org2.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_org2_thumb.jpg?w=497&#038;h=496' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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Original Image (<span style='color: #a5a5a5'>Image Credit</span>: <em class='bbc'>&#8220;Colors&#8221;</em> <span style='color: #a5a5a5'>by</span> <a href='http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasclaveirole/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Thomas Claveirole</a>)<br />
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In this original image, we’re sitting in the Power Curves function but the image showing is the original since there is no curve set.<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_hsl2.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_hsl2_thumb.jpg?w=497&#038;h=496' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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With the curves set in the HUE channel, the colors have completely changed but are still as deep and colorful as the original image.<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/curve.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/curve_thumb.jpg?w=151&#038;h=320' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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The curve, as shown above, is quite an extreme curve.  It shows how much you can do with the Power Curves – in cases like this, you can just move the curves in realtime until you get the image you want.<br />
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Note how clean the baseboard area is.  While HSL has some drawbacks (see below), when you have the overall control through the Power Curves, you can avoid many of the inherent problems that can occur with HSL.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>C*I*E LAB Version</span></strong><br />
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Let’s look at the same image converted in the same way with C*I*E LAB<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_lab2.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_lab2_thumb.jpg?w=497&#038;h=496' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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This image is not quite as nice, and the colors have become faded.  Also, I wasn’t able to get the tones I wanted because the LAB mode was just not capable of doing it by itself.<br />
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Interestingly, the C*I*E LAB image generated a significant amount of noise in the image:<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image.png' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image_thumb.png?w=304&#038;h=339' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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where the HSL (and image below) generated little noise (<span style='color: #0080ff'>note</span>: noise enhanced to show in the small image size)<br />
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<span style='color: #0080ff'>A note about C*I*E LAB Color Space</span><br />
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One of the reasons I point this out with the C*I*E LAB color space is because, while C*I*E LAB is very useful for many things, it’s not always the best space.  Since it tends to be presented in the image editing realm as a more-or-less perfect space to work in, I thought it was worth showing an example where it isn’t.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight RGB LCH and YCrCB LCH Example</span></strong><br />
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Interestingly, using the RGB LCH and YCrCB LCH color spaces in the Power Curves yielded pretty good results:<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_rgb.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/example1_rgb_thumb.jpg?w=497&#038;h=496' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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I say ‘interestingly’ because traditional logic would suggest that the C*I*E LAB mode would have the closest and best quality compared to the HSL version.  However, much of the work in Sagelight 4.0 was centered around creating very high-quality color and avoiding many of the problems created with color spaces.  Since the LCH RGB and LCH YCrCB color spaces in the Power Curves use this technology, this turned out to be a good example of some of the state-of-the-art technology in Sagelight.<br />
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<span style='color: #000000'>Even though the LCH RGB & LCH YCrCB image turned out well, note a couple things:</span><br />
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<ul class='bbcol decimal'><li><span style='color: #0000ff'>The Blues are still not as deep (especially the door), showing some color translation loss. </span></li><li><span style='color: #0000ff'>I had to create three different curves to get the same result I obtained by experimenting with just one curve.  The light and saturation curve had to be adjusted to get to this point, where I could start to get the deep color from the HSL mode’s natural conversion. </span></li></ul>On the other hand, the Sagelight RGB (RGB LCH, in this case) and YCrCB LCH modes also are very pure and can cause less noise.<br />
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This is another reason why there are different color spaces supported in Sagelight, as they all have their definite uses.  Even though the C*I*E LAB failed to keep the color integrity as much as the HSL conversion did, C*I*E LAB is much more suited towards toning and saturation at different levels.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Stark, Deep Color Effects and Toning</span></strong><br />
<span style='color: #0080ff'>Practical Example</span><br />
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The above was a great example of what HSL can do compared to other color spaces.  But, the picture was presented as a highly saturated picture for effect.<br />
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With other images, the HSL toning can be used for more specific and photographic purposes.<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/frog-org.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/frog-org_thumb.jpg?w=501&#038;h=503' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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Original Image<br />
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<div class='bbc_indent'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Dissonance Note:</span><span style='color: #0080ff'> this example may be subject to an image dissonance effect where the result may look too dark because it is being compared to the exact same original image that is lighter. Try looking at the result by itself with the idea of the vignette and deep colors as an intentional mood in the image.</span><br />
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</div><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/frog-hsl.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/frog-hsl_thumb.jpg?w=501&#038;h=503' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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This image was initially toned with the same approach by using the HSL curves in the Power Curves.  The Hue change was much less subtle here, just enough to make the colors a little deeper and lighter, such as more red in the frog and more blue in the background.<br />
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The Luminance Curve was then used to adjust the light.  The Luminance curve in the HSL mode can create some very distinctive and stark effects, which by themselves wouldn’t be interesting.  However, when combined with the individual control of the Saturation and Hue curves, the results can be combined for a powerful image that otherwise take many more steps.<br />
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After the toning was completed in the HSL color space, the image was then modified with a vignette, local contrast, and vibrance effects.  The basic look & tone came from the HSL adjustment.<br />
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<span style='color: #0080ff'>An important aspect of this picture is the color</span>.  The difference in color between the original image and the result image appears to be slight.  A lot of color work in image editing can be to maintain the perceptual color.  For example, this image, when the light was deepened, went to the original color of the image – yellowish.  When the light was deepened, the image became too yellow.  A lot of the HSL toning was to lift the color back up so that the image did not appear too yellowish.  The background was turned a little toward the blue to lighten it up, and the frog a little red to deepen it.  However, most of the work was to keep the image from turning yellow as the light was changed, as it is a natural tint to the original image.<br />
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One of the elements that Sagelight strives for is to combine image processing fundamentals so that images can be approached in different ways, depending on your experience and workflow.  As such, the above image can be created in other ways, such as through Dodging and Burning, and elements in the C*I*E LAB mode.  The HSL mode presents an easy way to accomplish certain elements in your image.  In the above example, the primary element was the ability for HSL to deepen the colors and to create a contrast effect on the image, where it may have taken a few more steps through other methods. It is possible to obtain the above image in many ways, HSL being one component of one of those methods.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Where HSL isn’t Useful</span></strong><br />
I just showed some examples where HSL can be used very effectively.  I think it is also important to discuss where HSL has some drawbacks, because this is where you may have seen problems in your images in the past.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #f79646'>Saturation</span></strong><br />
In a way, HSL is great for saturation.  But, it also causes a lot of noise and ‘neon-like’ effects.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Color Noise with HSL saturation</span></strong><br />
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Some editors use HSL saturation.  It’s very compelling because the way it interprets color is very faithful to the original color and hue, where other saturation modes can cause color drift – have you ever noticed that your picture either goes warm or yellowish 80% of the time when you saturate in certain editors?  This is because C*I*E LAB, Hunter LAB, and C*I*E XYZ modes are used in some editors which cause this shift when an image is saturated.<br />
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HSL doesn’t shift colors, but it does cause color noise, particularly in jpegs.  This happens because the hue between two adjacent pixels can travel different directions when color is added.  This happens in jpegs quite often because of the compression blocks – due to the compression, one block can have a slightly different hue than the one next to it, which can cause significant color edges when you add color to a jpeg image.  This happens in non-compressed images too, but not as dramatically.<br />
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If you’ve ever added color to your image and started seeing speckles as you add color, this is probably occurring.  It happens in other color spaces too, but HSL mode shows it to a much greater degree.<br />
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This is where Sagelight’s <em class='bbc'>True Saturation</em> comes from – It’s an HSL saturation with a noise- & luminance-correcting component.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>‘Neon’ Effect with HSL saturation</span></strong><br />
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HSL saturation can cause a neon-like effect as you saturate the image.  This is because the calculation for the light is not perceptually correct.  C*I*E LAB offers a perceptually correct grayscale conversion, but HSL simply adds the RGB components and divides by three.  This means that some colors will convert to a brighter gray component than they truly are perceptually, where others will become darker.   For example, greens, reds, and yellows typically become much brighter and glaring as you add color with HSL saturation, creating a neon look to the image.<br />
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In some cases it might be a nice effect, but in most images that can cause the image to look unrealistic.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #f79646'>General Image Toning</span></strong><br />
Even though I spoke above about the great uses for HSL toning, it’s not so useful for general toning, even though it is very useful for performing specific functions.   But, as a way to generally tone your image, HSL is not the best place to do so.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Conclusion</span></strong><br />
The Power Curves supports many different color spaces, which have many different and unique qualities.  HSL is one of the color spaces supported by the Power Curves (and elsewhere in Sagelight).<br />
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HSL curves can be used to change colors (of the entire image or part of it through the masking) while keeping the deep colors in the image where other color spaces will fade the colors and cause noise, or at least are much more difficult to use.<br />
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HSL in the Power Curves can be used for dramatic changes, but also more subtle changes to bring out the colors and light in your image in dramatic ways, but also more subtle ways to simply adjust a few aspects.  By using the HSL curves separately, this avoids some of the problems inherent with HSL with the ability to adjust each curve independently to compensate.<br />
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In general, HSL can be less useful for general saturation and toning, but through the use of specific changes where HSL finds it strengths, it can be a definite additive to the toolset in image editing.<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: RSS available… well, everywhere</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/89-sagelight-blog-rss-available%e2%80%a6-well-everywhere/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just updated the discussion board and blog to work with RSS.  I didn’t realize until today that the RSS feed link at the WordPress blog had been removed. So, I took the time to just install RSS in a couple more places. <br />
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The discussion board also now automatically imports the RSS feed from the blog, and it looks great. In fact, if you’re reading this article on the discussion board, that’s because it was automatically posted by the discussion board from the blog feed.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>What is RSS?</span></strong><br />
RSS is a great way to bring in entries from many websites, such as CNN, blogs, discussion boards, etc., right into  your e-mail program (for instance, there is a ‘<span style='color: #0000ff'><em class='bbc'>feeds’</em> </span>folder in Microsoft Outlook and Live Mail), desktop, or wherever.<br />
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You can see what is going on and read entries just as if they were on the website with full HTML and images, but in the comfort of your own desktop – without going to the site.<br />
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It makes a great way to keep track of places like Sagelight Editor because it’s informal and you don’t have to think about checking into the site or looking at the discussion board – it’s all done for you and presented in your e-mail or RSS reader.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>How to install an RSS feed</span></strong><br />
In your e-mail or RSS reader, just copy and paste the links below.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>  </strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Two ways to use RSS with Sagelight Editor Groups</span></strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The Discussion Board</span></strong><br />
You can subscribe to the Discussion Board RSS (<a href='http://www.sagelightforum.com' class='bbc_url' title=''><span style='color: #1b8be0'>discussion board is here</span></a>), and it will also import the blog, as well. The discussion board imports the Blog RSS as blog entries by me with the prefix “Sagelight Blog”<br />
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Use this URL for the RSS feed:<br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/rss/forums/1-sagelight-editor-discussion-board/' class='bbc_url' title=''> </a><span style='color: #0080ff'><a href='http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/rss/forums/1-sagelight-editor-discussion-board/' class='bbc_url' title=''>http://www.sagelight...scussion-board/</a></span><br />
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<span style='color: #0000ff'>note:</span> <span style='color: #666666'>if you used the RSS feed on the new discussion board before, it has been changed to reflect the discussion board entries and not the previous calendar RSS.</span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The Blog</span></strong><br />
If you just want the RSS feed for the blog, you can use this link:<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/feed/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> </a><span style='color: #1b8be0'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/feed/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://sagelightedit...press.com/feed/</a></span> (remember the last ‘/’)<br />
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or go to the bottom of the right sidebar column and click RSS. <br />
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The blog at <a href='http://www.sagelightblog.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #1b8be0'>www.sagelightblog.com</span></a> is the new blog, but the blog with the RSS link above looks nice in your RSS browser/e-mail program because it has a white background.  They are the same articles, just with a different format.<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Undo brush not working correctly?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/90-undo-brush-not-working-correctly/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob, I'm running the latest (4.1.5.3), and I'm seeing some strange behavior on the Undo brush.  I'm trying to do something similar to what you talked about in the high contrast photo discussion, where I am using the Median Filter to reduce artifacts in one small area of a photo.  Then I go to the Undo Brush and select the Undo image, because I want to use the "Subtracting Undo" method to blend in just the small area where I want the blur of the median filter applied.  However, as soon as I move the cursor over into the photo area, it is immediately applying the blurred "current" image wherever I move the mouse, without the mouse button ever being pressed.  In other words, it's like the mouse button is being held down all the time, but it's not. In addition, the brush is being fully applied; that is, it's not being gently "blended in" according to the hardness/pressure controls, it's doing complete replacement wherever the mouse moves.  Lastly, even though the mouse brush is represented by a circle, you can actually see that the shape that's being painted is a square.<br />
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If I do press the mouse button, the full image immediately switches back to the blurred "current" image, and then further mouse presses actually start applying the Undo image.  This is despite the fact that the controls still indicate that the Image View is set to "Undo", and the brush is set to "Subtract Undo".<br />
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Note that if I use the Undo Brush to apply Undo to the Working image, that seems to work fine, it's just the subtract Undo from the Undo image that seems to have a problem.  So I'm guessing something is not quite right with that function.  Can you reproduce these symptoms?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>DNG V CR2</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/108-dng-v-cr2/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Converting CR2 (or similar) to dng is easy and economic in disk space. I saw a delicate hint in some of Rob's output that suggested (very carefully) that all Raw reading modules are not the same. You would think that by definition they would have to be the same. I wonder now if there is some merit in leaving a CR2 file (again, of similar) as a CR2 file, or if there is no practical difference? Any insights out there?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tilt Shift help</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/110-tilt-shift-help/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,<br />
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I would consider myself a novice when it comes to photo editing.  I was hoping to apply the tilt-shift effect to some photos using Sagelight, following the steps on this page: <a href='http://www.tiltshiftphotography.net/photoshop-tutorial.php' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.tiltshiftphotography.net/photoshop-tutorial.php</a> but I am not quite sure whether it is possible.  Can someone help me?  Would this be a good subject for one of Rob's blog entries?<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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Ben.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Crash bug in help menu</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/123-crash-bug-in-help-menu/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
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I can usually crash SL with the following steps:<br />
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- Open SL (with no image file)<br />
- Select "Help | Using Sliders (Quick Reference)"<br />
- OK the help dialog that opens<br />
- Select "Help | Using Sliders (Quick Reference)" again<br />
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Usually, the second use of the menu item will hard-crash SL.  Sometimes, it doesn't crash the app, but the menu's no longer work.  For instance, I'll still be able to select "File | Open", but I won't get the file open dialog.  I'd guess there's some kind of memory corruption going on as it's not 100% consistent, though it's easy enough to reproduce on my system.<br />
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Also, the "Using the Curves Window" help menu items causes the same issue.<br />
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Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>User photos for retouching</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/100-user-photos-for-retouching/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[dpreview.com, which is one of the most heavily trafficked photo sites, has a Software/Retouching forum. <br />
Users often post images for other users to retouch. Here's one example: <br />
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<a href='http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=38569550' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=38569550</a><br />
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Although this example is not particularly noteworthy, it highlights in the text what was done<br />
and what software was used. And so do many other posts, with better results and examples.<br />
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I think the above forum would be a good way to show off what can be done with Sagelight. <br />
It would go a long way to make it better known and show it off against the competing products.<br />
There is no restriction on naming the software used for retouching on the board.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 04:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[More Than just Dodge &#38; Burn]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/127-more-than-just-dodge-burn/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I use the dodge and burn tool on many of my pics, as a way of 'painting' (see my gallery). Is there a way to use a color picker to choose a certain color then use the dodge and burn to make changes with that color? I guess it would be like adding color or taking away color. A smudge tool with the doge and burn tool would also be nice. What say you to this?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Cross Processing effects</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/126-cross-processing-effects/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am a big fan of cross processing effects. I can use the tone blender to get similar effects (color, vignette, blur). But I would also like to be able to blend into an image texture and then also add some noise.<br />
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I am wondering if there is currently a way to blend texture into an image and add noise, either before or after using the light blender? <br />
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I know that the current old photo effect must use both noise and some texture for the background, but I do not have any control over either of those, nor the color, and I do not quite know how to get the blender to alter that effect and bring it closer to a cross-processing effect. I know I can remove noise, but is there a way to add it to an image in Sagelight?<br />
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I know that technically textures are not part of the traditional cross processing effect, however they enhance the image quite well. <br />
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Is there a way to add to the tone blender, maybe in a future release, the ability to add a custom texture (from a file) and noise with adjustable coarseness? Or maybe even just add a few cross-processing presets to the existing ones. <br />
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Something like this, plus the current ability to save the effects as presets, would go a long way towards creating some really great effects, similar to those in Nik Color Effex (way too expensive) or Toycamera Analog Color (<a href='http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/toycamera_analogcolor/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/toycamera_analogcolor/</a> examples: <a href='http://analogcolor.tumblr.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://analogcolor.tumblr.com/</a> ).]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Get Latest Update Link broken</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/28-get-latest-update-link-broken/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
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Just wanted to remind you that the "Get Latest Update" link inside Sagelight (using 4.0.2) is still pointing to the old, dead Discussion board. <br />
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Is there a more direct link for registered users instead of d/ling the 30 day Trial?<br />
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thanks!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Release notes page suggestion</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/122-release-notes-page-suggestion/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
I like having the SL release notes available (<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/release4.1.5/application.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/release4.1.5/application.html</a>).  However, I think they would make more sense if they were listed in reverse-chronological order - so the newest release was at the top.  So, 4.1.5.3, 4.1.5.2, 4.1.5.1, 4.1.5. <br />
<br />
In my experience, that's the most common order for such a page and makes it much quicker / easier to answer the "Do I have the latest version?" question...<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Square Vignette (vs. Round)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/131-square-vignette-vs-round/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone. <br />
<br />
I am upgrading the Vignette Feature to use the new Vignette code I wrote for the Tone Blender (where it supports colored vignettes in various blend modes) as well as some new features that should make the vignette easier to use and more powerful.  With that, the Vignette Blur and Soft Focus features are also being substantially upgraded (from a programming perspective, this is because there is a lot of underlying code they all share). <br />
<br />
One of the things I am wondering about with the vignette -- does anyone use the 'square' format int he Vignette?  It can be useful for soft borders and a 'framed' vignette look. I am in the middle of designing the UI for the new version, and I am looking at having the traditional circle/elliptical shape, but also a gradient where you can use a top, bottom,  or top & bottom both, all within a 360-degree angle you can set, much like the Photo Filter/Gradient uses.<br />
<br />
You can do this now in the current Vignette, but it is not as straightforward since you're manipulating and moving a rectangle to force the three types of gradients above. <br />
<br />
Since I am putting int the gradient types as individual options, there is really no specific need for a square shape since it isn't typically used for vignetting or neutral-density toning. <br />
<br />
Any thoughts?  I can put the square/rectangular option in, but I am also trying to keep things less cluttered -- so, I thought I'd get your comments on it!<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Changing the Shape of the Circle/Ellipse in the Vignette Controls</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/135-changing-the-shape-of-the-circleellipse-in-the-vignette-controls/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There is an issue that came up in another thread with the vignette feature, but its worth discussing a couple things about the vignette:<br />
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1. You can move the vignette.  This comes up here and there, and I thought I would note that you can move the vignette on the screen just by clicking on the screen and move it with the mouse. <br />
2. Changing the shape of the Vignette Circle/Ellipse.   In another thread, the idea of being able to rotate the ellipse came up.   I am writing new vignette features right now and will keep that in mind. </div><br />
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In the meantime, I thought I'd mention that you can do that now in the Vignette controls.  It's not rotating the ellipse but controlling the shape, at least the way I thought it was represented in the previous discussion.<br />
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If we're talking about actually rotating it so the edges of the ellipse are at an angle, see below. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>How to set any shape with the ellipse in the Vignette Controls:</strong><br />
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1. Click the "&gt;" button next to the "1:1 Circle/Square Button". <br />
2. Move the "Shape Selection Slider" to the right to make the ellipse taller and thinner. <br />
3. Move the "Shape Selection Slider" to the left to make the ellipse wider and shorter.  <em class='bbc'>then</em> use the Radius Slider to bring the radius back in to whatever you want.  Typically, just using the "Shape Selection Slider" to the left widens the ellipse and moves the edges off the screen.</div><br />
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This will allow you to set any size/shape to the ellipse.<br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Rotating the Ellipse</strong><br />
<br />
To rotate the ellipse so that the edges are at a different angle than perpendicular to the XY plane, that has never been seen as very useful since the vignette is typically softened and sized, as well as shaped in the XY plane. <br />
<br />
But, if that's something you're interested in, let me know -- I am building the new vignette controls right now, so it's a good thing to know.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Sagelight isn't currently a beta version even though it says it is]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/137-sagelight-isnt-currently-a-beta-version-even-though-it-says-it-is/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I thought I'd mention why Sagelight still says 4.1.5.3 (Beta), even though it is a release version.<br />
<br />
The current release is considered very stable and there have been no bug reports on it for quite some time. <br />
<br />
It's in beta because I have not finished some help documentation that needs to be put into the release before I can take off the beta tag.  The Light Blender, Tone Blender, Image Blending, and a couple other functions are very large functions and the documentation needs to be filled out. <br />
<br />
Other than that, it is the release version, but I thought it didn't look right to have some of the help items in progress while they're being completed for the next update, so I left it as a 'beta'.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 03:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Help screen question</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/140-help-screen-question/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just noticed you cant have the "Help" screen open and work in Sagelight at the same time.  I use two monitors and I can place Power Box and Light Blender on my second monitor and still work on my photo but if I open the Help screen I can't work in Sagelight.  It would be nice if I could open the Help screen, move it to my second monitor and continue working on my photo. Is there a reason for this?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/140-help-screen-question/</guid>
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		<title>Workflow, Spot Healing, Wire Worm, other stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/139-workflow-spot-healing-wire-worm-other-stuff/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=427'><img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_images/master/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>ernest, on 16 June 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>
Most definitely keep the square vignette. I am not sure I would ever use more than one vignette, but I would surely want to use a square vignette, especially with square photos, and with the ability to turn on and off any of its sides, at will. In fact, I hate having to go to Nik Silver Effex so that I can apply the burnt edge vignette only on some of the sides, and in Nik Color Effex I can not even do this.<br />
<br />
The other thing that would be useful is the ability to rotate the vignette, especially the oval ones, as this allows to better direct the light on the subject. This feature is great, especially for portraits that are not taken in studio, yet the software allows me to create more professional looking portraits. I often use the vignette to change the color of a background that better suits the subject. <br />
<br />
For square vignettes I would also like to be able to turn on or off the vignette on any side I chose. This is because sometimes the vignette looks better on the upper side of the image, but not so much on the bottom because it would obscure some detail. Right now I use the undo brush to remove the vignette from where it is not needed. I am not sure which method is better for this, the undo brush or the ability to turn on/off the vignette on a side.<br />
<br />
Here are some examples, some used Nik Color Effex or Toycamera Analogcolor for the cross processing effects, or Photoshop Elements to blend the texture into the subject background after I first edited the image in Sagelight or as described further below:<br />
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<a href='http://intermedion.tumblr.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://intermedion.tumblr.com/</a>  <br />
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By the way, these also illustrate the types of cross processing effects I was referring to in another post, effects that I would like to be able to do in Sagelight alone without having to use PSE or Nik on top of an image already edited in Sagelight. <br />
<br />
Note that I may remove the examples above later on, as this is a testing ground for me to try out various gallery themes or the ones I develop.  <br />
<br />
Since you are looking for feedback, here's what my typical workflow looks like on JPG images: <br />
<br />
Use Sagelight to create a first good looking, quality JPG version from a RAW image. Use the PSE spot heal brush to remove face blemishes, use the various auto functions to see if they give a better looking image, go to Nik Color Effex and use the White Neutralizer, Pro Contrast, or Cross Balance (from Tungsten to Daylight) to get a more natural or better looking image. Go back to Sagelight and use Tone Blender and try out different variants, try Nik filters for various effects. <br />
<br />
I know that I could probably do most, if not all of the above in Sagelight (well maybe except the spot healing brush),<br />
but I find it a lot easier to do them in PSE (in the auto modes only) and Nik. I love being able to easily try out various effects, the way I can in Nik. I wish I could do something similar in Sagelight. This observation also goes as feedback to the usability/interface question from  another thread.<br /></div></div><br />
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<br />
HI, Ernest.<br />
<br />
Hey, I think I will split the topic on this.  I think there is a lot I'd like to answer and perhaps go into new directions.  It will be the first time I did this on the discussion board, so it will be interested to see what it looks like ha.  I thought I'd let you know here because I won't be able to do it until later, and since I am answering other messages on the discussion board, I didn't want it to look like I ignored it.  I just want to give it more attention later tonight. <br />
<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Opening Sagelight from DAM aplication</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/130-opening-sagelight-from-dam-aplication/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi<br />
I'm organizing and browsing/searching ALL my pictures with my DAM application <a href='http://www.idimager.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Idimager</a>.<br />
When I find (most likely via the tagging I've done with Idimager) a photo worth working on I tell Idimager to open it with Sagelight, this works great. However, sometimes there are blown highlights and Sagelight recommends me to close the file, and reopen it in highlight recovery mode. Unless I have missed something (quite possible) this is annoying since I then need to go back to Idimager to check the name of the folder it's in, then back to Sagelight to search for that folder, find the file and then reopen it.<br />
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My question - Is there anyway I can make Sagelight switch over to highlight recovery mode without closing down and reload the photo??<br />
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Hope I managed to get to my point in an understandable way <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Regards<br />
Rune<br />
<br />
<br />
Some of my <a href='http://rune.zenfolio.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>pictures</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/130-opening-sagelight-from-dam-aplication/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[Releases 'as things get done' vs. full release]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/132-releases-as-things-get-done-vs-full-release/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
<br />
The plans for version 5 are starting to come up, and I am running into the same question I ran into with version 4, and I could definitely use your thoughts on it... <br />
<br />
Since I'm splitting Sagelight in a couple weeks into the Standard and Hobbyist/Pro version, I am just going to move into plans for version 5 vs going to version 4.5 to finish out some things I am working on. <br />
<br />
As it turns out, version 5 is very aggressive.  A lot of version 5 became bigger than I thought it would be based on the engine code I've been writing lately; every time I do that, I find out how much more I want to do and now can do in a modularized format without having to re-invent the wheel. <br />
<br />
So, in addition to a comprehensive file-management system (raw browsing, keywords, etc.) that will also encompass many other aspects of Sagelight, there is also better lens correction, advanced noise reduction, the 'import layer' sub-menu function (which still needs a more descriptive name), better EXIF handling, the Advance Painting mechanism that will be a superset (and inclusive to) Dodging And Burning, painting with light, as well as a host of other things. <br />
<br />
The question I ran into with version 4 is how to release versions as things get done.  The main issues are: <br />
<br />
1. There is no reason to sit on built technology just to release everything in one pass, i.e. Version 5.  That is, why should the advanced noise reduction not be released for 4 months just because something else isn't finished?  So, releasing things as they get done -- especially to beta them -- makes much more sense. <br />
2. On the other hand, you'd really want a version of a product to be defined by 'what's new' in the version.   I would want a major version (i.e. version 5 vs version 4) to be represented by all that is new in version 5; all the major functions.  But, releasing them piecemeal dilutes it and causes a loss of context, I think.<br />
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My question is: how can things be released piecemeal -- sometimes in a limited form for a while so other things can be release likewise -- while separating it from version 4 and at the same time not diluting the impact of 'Version 5'?<br />
<br />
Any thoughts? <br />
<br />
My thought is to find a way to move away from the idea of major version vs. minor version, but that could get confusing, too. <br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/132-releases-as-things-get-done-vs-full-release/</guid>
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		<title>Vignette variant ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/138-vignette-variant-ideas/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes when I am working with a portrait taken outside a studio, especially with candid shots, I capture an image which is great, except the conditions are such that the light on the person's face is darker than I would like it to be. At other times I just want to enhance the mood of the picture by brightening the subject in the center and dimming the periphery, or defocus it with increasing blurriness.<br />
<br />
In all of the above situations the current and especially the upcoming versions of the vignette would be a good choice, but I would like it to have an option to apply it without the color - black, white or otherwise. <br />
<br />
In other words, what I would like to do is to apply a lighting/brightness vignette (if that makes sense) and use all the vignette controls, except the color part of it. I would like to do this so I can lighten up the center of the image and darken the borders in a subtle, nicely blended way, just like the vignette works. <br />
<br />
Similarly, I would like to be able to do the same by gradually blurring the image from the center or other focal point towards the edges.<br />
<br />
Another variant or enhancement  to consider (besides the ones listed for the 4.2 release) might be a vibrance, warming, or cooling option on the vignette. This is similar to how we perceive things in nature -  objects in the distance are less saturated, less clear, than those in the foreground. Or the other way around, as for a subject taken with a sunset in the background:  the periphery or the area where the sun sets or the light is has bright colours, whereas the subject in the center or closer to us is darker and less colourful. This is what I would try to simulate or enhance using the third vignette variant using the vibrance or warming/cooling controls.<br />
<br />
In summary the additional vignette variants I am suggesting would be:<br />
<br />
- brighten image center/darken image borders  using a vignette<br />
- focus/defocus image center using a blur vignette<br />
- increase/decrease the image center vibrance/warming/cooling using a vignette<br />
<br />
It seems to me that of these, the first two might be easier to implement and would not increase the complexity of the existing controls.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/138-vignette-variant-ideas/</guid>
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		<title>Combine images to control contrast?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/143-combine-images-to-control-contrast/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The method I use to control contrast is to shoot 2 RAW images, one exposed for the highlights and the other for the mid-tones.  I use PSE to combine the 2 images and then use a layer mask to "erase" the over or under-exposed portion of the image.  <br />
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How can I accomplish this in Sagelight?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/143-combine-images-to-control-contrast/</guid>
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		<title>Main menu structure and organization</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/144-main-menu-structure-and-organization/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
It seems that you're kind of working your way through a whole array of new UI ideas for SL - which I think is great.  While that work is going on, I think the SL main menu could use a good scrubbing and some reorganization.  For instance, it contains a number of duplicate items.  Additionally, I think it contains too many top-level items, some of which should probably be consolidated.<br />
<br />
While I have some ideas in this area, it's probably too early to discuss them in light of the other planned UI changes - which are bound to change the menus anyway.  I just wanted you to give some thought to the menu organization while you're considering the other UI work.<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/144-main-menu-structure-and-organization/</guid>
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		<title>Perserve Image Transparancy?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/146-perserve-image-transparancy/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Anyway or plans for Sagelight to be able to load up a tiff with transparency (alpha channel) and edit the photo but preserve the transparency on save. In some projects when I'm working with multiple programs I will have cut out/delete the background to be replaced, find that I may want to apply filter or enhance a photo (of the subject by themself).<br />
<br />
 A example is when I need to change the highlights in a photo to a different color to make it look red instead of outside. Current solution is edit the photo in Sagelight and then load the edit photo back into my current project as a seperate layer and use the alpha channel of the orignal to re-add back the transparency.. <br />
<br />
Just something I ran into recently, and thought I would ask.<br />
<br />
Oh that or be able to load edit PNG's with transparency =P.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/146-perserve-image-transparancy/</guid>
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		<title>Selective Focus</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/150-selective-focus/</link>
		<description>Can a plugin be written to select just a certain area of a photograph to focus just on that part? I know it is simple with layers (Sagelight limited?) or using the undo brush (which could be tedious). Am I missing something?</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/150-selective-focus/</guid>
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		<title>Effects tutorials</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/152-effects-tutorials/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I thought I would post the links to some of the Photoshop tutorials I find and use as a starting point for edits in Sagelight. <br />
<br />
Here's the first one; it is for a high-fashion, cross processing effect:<br />
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<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://youtube.com/v/N5maIdfttts&feature=related"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://youtube.com/v/N5maIdfttts&feature=related" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 00:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/152-effects-tutorials/</guid>
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		<title>Cross processing in Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/142-cross-processing-in-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[After some search I finally found a way to re-create a cross processing effect in Sagelight. Here are a couple of links showing how it is done in Photoshop, using curves:<br />
<br />
Here's an example for portraits:<br />
<br />
<a href='http://www.mattprestonphotography.com/cross-processing-digital-photographs/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.mattprestonphotography.com/cross-processing-digital-photographs/</a><br />
<br />
and another one for a landscape:<br />
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<a href='http://www.reynsphoto.com/articles/Post_Processing/html/Digital_cross-processing_C-41_as_E-6.php' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.reynsphoto.com/articles/Post_Processing/html/Digital_cross-processing_C-41_as_E-6.php</a><br />
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To do this in Sagelight we need to use the the Power Curves, selecting the red, green and blue channels and setting them as shown in the above tutorials. <br />
This often gives a quite nice effect. However, there is a lot more that you can do in Sagelight, and quite easily.<br />
<br />
- Still in the power curves, bring up the masking controls and click on any area on the image where you want to further change the color. After you select your hue with the masking controls, you can now go back to the power curve and further adjust your image<br />
<br />
- Additionally, after applying the curves in the power box, you can use the tone blender to apply a further tint, by adjusting the color slider<br />
<br />
- Finally, you can use the vignette and blur vignette<br />
<br />
Here's my quick example: <br />
<br />
the original <br />
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with the cross processing effect <br />
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with the tone blender adjustment<br />
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Admittedly, I could have worked a bit more the images, but it took me longer to write this post and attach the files than to create the examples.<br />
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One thing I wanted to do but have not yet figured out how, is to save the cross processing effect as a preset.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Blending modes - suggestion</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/151-blending-modes-suggestion/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I think it may be useful to further group the blending modes into their known categories below, rather than "Blend Mode" and "Advanced Modes". These are the categories also present in Photoshop and most of the tools  that support blending. I did not include some of the SL blending modes, like "MIxture" for instance, as I am not quite sure where they belong.<br />
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It is worth noting that the blending modes apply not only to layers, but also to brushes, gradients, and even for the clone stamp in editing tools where they are implemented. <br />
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Basic<br />
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- Normal<br />
- Dissolve<br />
- Behind<br />
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Darken<br />
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- Darken <br />
- Darker color<br />
- Multiply<br />
- Color burn<br />
- Linear burn<br />
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Lighten<br />
- Lighten<br />
- Screen<br />
- Color dodge<br />
- Linear dodge<br />
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Contrast<br />
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- Overlay<br />
- Soft Light<br />
- Vivid light<br />
- Linear Light<br />
- Pin Light<br />
- Hard Mix<br />
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Comparative<br />
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- Difference<br />
- Exclusion<br />
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HSL <br />
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- Hue <br />
- Saturation<br />
- Color <br />
- Luminosity<br />
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A good intro and illustrations that explain these blending modes are available at:<br />
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<a href='http://www.northlite.net/designorati/illustrator/blendmodes/blendmodes.htm' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.northlite.net/designorati/illustrator/blendmodes/blendmodes.htm</a><br />
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A more advanced and excellent explanation of blend modes in Photoshop is available at:<br />
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<a href='http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/blend1/blend1.htm' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/blend1/blend1.htm</a><br />
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Note that in the Tone Blender SL brings up the blend modes via an "Interaction" button and "Merge Type" drop down; why not just call them "Blend Mode", as that is the pretty standard terminology. The "Merge Type" could be dropped from the panel, as it does the same thing as "Interactive". Likewise for the Blend Undo.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Undo and saved image history - enhancement</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/147-undo-and-saved-image-history-enhancement/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[In my post processing workflow I typically move from corrective to creative editing, saving often up to a dozen image versions. Since this involves quite a number of editing steps, the undo history windows starts to lose the history points which correspond to the saved image versions. This often means that <br />
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a) I can not select a state corresponding to an older version so that I can blend it with the current image and see what I get, or<br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> I can not select two versions corresponding to the saved versions so that I can blend them<br />
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I set the undo history to the recommended maximum of 20. I am not sure if setting it much higher is a solution.  Besides the possible negative impact on performance, what this would do is make it more difficult to identify and select the "finished" versions states that I want to further work with. <br />
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Reloading a saved image is not a good option, because a) I lose the history and <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> I have to redo work to try to create a version that I need to blend.<br />
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I am thinking there might be a few options to remedy the above and enhance the undo history. This besides enhancing the range of the current undo function, it would also give more image versions to use with the blend and tone blender and blend undo functions. <br />
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Maybe one way to address the above would be to split the history window vertically and have at the top the saved versions, say 5-6, followed by the current rolling undo history window into the recent edits history. <br />
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Another option might be to have a setting that specifies what to save in the undo history, edit apply points only, filed saved points only, or a mix of the two, if this is not impacting the undo function.<br />
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 What do you think, does this make sense, would it be useful, could it be implemented without disrupting what works now?<br />
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PS . I have no idea why and how the two emoticons showed up in this post.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>New Vignette Prototype Available</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/155-new-vignette-prototype-available/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have a beta of some of the new vignetting features coming in the next release of Sagelight.  <br />
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Specifically, this beta includes the new Vignette function that has quite a few new features, as well as some Vignetting functions added to the Tone Blender. <br />
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If you want to try it out, it is located at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/Sagelight4154.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...gelight4154.exe</a> (20 Meg download). You can put it into the directory where Sagelight.exe exists and run it from there without overwriting your current version.  This also works if you're in the trial period.<br />
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The Vignette is located under "More Functions-&gt;Vignette / Gradient"<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>The new Vignetting Function Includes: </strong><br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>5 Blending Modes (Same as in the Tone Blender: Soft, Hard, Burn, Color Burn, Hard Burn), we well as a "solid color" button (default) that, when unchecked uses a softer tone for wider & more subtle image blending (this is useful when you use both layers described below)</li><li>4 Basic Vignette Shapes: Circular/Elliptical, Square/Rectangular, Gradient, and a Double Gradient (i.e. a top and bottom gradient)</li><li>Saturation Function tied to vignetting -- you can add or subtract color with the strength based on the transparency and softness of the vignette, i.e. the colors change softly according to the size/shape of the vignette only in the areas the vignette is touching.</li><li>Color Selection.  You can select any color for the vignette (as in the Tone Blender) to blend in any of the blend modes.</li><li>Angle and Size/Shape Sliders.  You can change the angle of the vignette shape, which is very helpful for gradients but also useful for elliptical and rectangular shapes.</li><li>Two Layers.  Saturation, Vignette Transparency/Strength, Color, and Blend Mode can be set independently for the vignette-covered area and the non-vignette area (see examples below).</li><li>Mouse Moves the Vignette -- you can move the vignette with the mouse on the screen</li><li>Dockable/Undockable Thumbnail Window.  This shows the basic shape of the vignette so you can see it even when it blends smoothly into the main image.  You can also use the mouse to move the vignette around and see the result in realtime on the screen.  When Undocked, you can get more flexibility when moving the vignette by moving the mouse outside of the window (when the mouse button is down)</li><li>Load/Save Presets (called "profiles" currently, but will be renamed to presets).  See examples below.</li><li>Pre-Desaturation ("Black and White" slider) to remove color from the base image prior to any blending.</li><li>Post-Saturation ("Add Color" slider) to add color to the final image (after blending and vignetting is completed)</li><li>Full Histogram Support.</li></ul><br />
<strong class='bbc'>New Tone Blender Features:</strong> <br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>Adds vignette shapes (Circular (default), Square/rectangular, Gradients, etc.).</li><li>Adds Angle and Size/Shape functionality as described above.</li></ul><br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'><strong class='bbc'>Some Examples</strong></span></span><br />
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</strong></span></span><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird-org.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Original Image</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird-bignette-normal.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Basic Vignette Example.  Not any different than the previous Vignette function. </strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird-vignette-hard.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Same Vignette in "Hard" Vignette Mode.</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/cat-org.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Original Image</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/cat-new.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image with wide. "hard"-mode vignette, with some post-touch ups with the Light Blender to bring down the overly-brightened areas on the face. </strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/sunset-org.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Original Image.</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/sunset-new.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image after using the "Dual Gradient" to darken the top and bottom of the image.  The colors look deeper but are basically the same -- the blending mode was the "Color Burn Mode" which can have such a deepening effect on colors (use higher transparency values).</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird-double-1.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image showing the use of two layers -- the vignette area is turned more golden and the non-vignette area is more blue. The "Solid Color" button was unchecked for very smooth blending</strong>.   You can load the original above and use this preset to see how it was done: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird.VignetteGradient.slp' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...tteGradient.slp</a><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird-double-2.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>I much harsher vignette using both layers</strong>.  Here is the preset: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/bird2.VignetteGradient.slp' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...tteGradient.slp</a><br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'><strong class='bbc'>Some Tone Blender Examples</strong></span></span><br />
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I found these examples while I was looking around for Vignette Examples to Post. The following were done in the Tone Blender: <br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/car2-org.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Original Image</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/car-new-2.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image after using the Tone Blender</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/car-org.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Original Image.</strong><br />
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<img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/vg/car-new.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image after using the Tone Blender. </strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Conclusion</span></span></strong><br />
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If you download it and try it, let me know how it all works.  I know of a couple very small bugs, but otherwise it is pretty solid in my testing. note: I tested SSE2 functions but did not test them on an SSE2 machine (this typically is perfunctory and usually has no issues (not testing, that is))<br />
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note:  I will probably post this as a blog item in the next day or so, so you might see all of this again (especially since the discussion board automatically pulls blog entries and posts them as messages).<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 06:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Poll on the Blog Article about HSL Curves</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/106-poll-on-the-blog-article-about-hsl-curves/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<strong class='bbc'>note:</strong><span style='color: #696969'> If you're not logged in (i.e. a guest) and can't vote -- please come back later today. There is a patch to allow this and I will try installing it by then.<br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>About the Poll</span></span><br />
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The reason I posted it was because the example where I changed the colors of the picture with the chair  -- from a technical perspective -- turned out to be a perfect example of how HSL can be used for its strengths.<br />
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It was a very powerful example, too, as the ability for HSL to change the colors so deeply is a "wow" factor from the technical point of view, and this same factor can be applied to general images.<br />
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But, did it transfer from the technical discussion to the idea of "Hey, I can use this in my own image editing?".  The second example is much more practical.<br />
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As I start to write articles for the as-yet-unnamed Sagelight book, my thought is to mix articles like this -- that will cover all color spaces and modes (so this one was one segment of the power curves chapter) -- with less technical articles to start piecing it together, inserting one article after another into the overall structure.<br />
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So,the poll question is about the idea of posting more technical articles and whether that holds your interest and if it, in turn, gets applied to better image editing for you?<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/106-poll-on-the-blog-article-about-hsl-curves/</guid>
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		<title>Anyone using 1024x768 image screen size?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/148-anyone-using-1024x768-image-screen-size/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Today I'm working on the new vignette and other features,and after designing the UI, I am feeling more and more constrained by the need to keep everything within 768 pixels vertically, including the windows taskbar, the bottom rail (in Sagelight) an top window title and menu items. <br />
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In the new design, I have simply exceeded this limitation, but only for those on 1024x768 monitors (for anything less, many functions already do that and you can scroll the controls up and down to use them). <br />
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In a couple modes (such as the Quick Edit Mode), there is a different UI design for 1024x768 screens vs. larger screens, and I can do that here. The main thing is that I have a graphic thumbnal to show you the size & shape of the vignette you're working with.  This scrolls off the screen if you're working with 1024x768.<br />
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There are ways to deal with it, but I am curious as to how many people with with 1024x768 or anything that vertically translates to 768 pixels?<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tone blender - further enhancement ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/149-tone-blender-further-enhancement-ideas/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I think I already mentioned that I like the tone blender a lot. The more I use it, the more I like it. <br />
I'd like to share just a few thoughts on how I think it might become even more powerful. <br />
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One of the features I like most in the tone blender is the color selection wheel for the layer fill color. This is the part that I am focusing on for now. There are others, like the blending layer, but that's for another post.<br />
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The first enhancement would be to not only display the RGB values for the selected color, but to also  allow the user to enter/set his own values. This would make it easier and faster to reuse R/G/B values that we like or that are referenced in other effects tutorials. It would also allow the user to enter individual values from color swatches (see below).<br />
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The second enhancement would be more extensive, but so would be the added power. In fact it might even stand on its own as a separate tool. I am talking about having not only one color selection wheel for the layer fill color, but three color wheels for the individual tonal ranges in the image: one for highs, one for midtones, and one for shadows. <br />
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The highlights/midtones/shadows color selection wheels would allow us to select and set the tones for the respective areas of the picture. I know that this can be done as well with the power curves, however, the three separate color wheels would have definite usability and flexibility benefits over the color curves: <br />
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First, they would make it easier to see what colours we want to blend to what tonal range. Second, and more importantly, together with the ability to set the individual R/G/B values, we could blend a complimentary color scheme selected according to a swatch created with tool like Adobe Kuler and based on a given color scheme. <br />
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How would I use the three color wheels? <br />
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Well, first I would extract the image color scheme using one of the many tools available elsewhere (e.g. <a href='http://colorsuckr.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://colorsuckr.com/</a>) or one that maybe would be built in (it could serve other purposes as well). <br />
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Next, I would use the dominant color as the base for a color swatch that I (borrow) or create myself using another tool (e.g. Adobe Kuler).  Once I have the color swatch, I would pick and set the individual R/G/B values for the highlight/midtone/shadows tonal ranges. Now I get something that blends in harmoniously with the image base colors, as opposed to the longer trial and error process I do now with the power curves.<br />
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If we want to take this even further, we could perhaps have a slider to adjust the color luminance for each color individually.<br />
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The next step, after I do the above, would be to blend them in and then use the current tone blend layer and the future texture/image variant layers to further creatively enhance my working image. <br />
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OK, so that's how I would see it from a user perspective. The beauty of it all is that this could be done by just reusing what is already available in Sagelight. For the color extraction and swatch part we can always use the many tools available elsewhere.<br />
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Last edit - it seems that what I am describing above could stand on its own as an image color grading tool. It could be very nice and powerful addition to the already great color blending tool. Or maybe call it a Tone Grading tool....]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/149-tone-blender-further-enhancement-ideas/</guid>
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		<title>Auto levels</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/160-auto-levels/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am wondering why the drop down with percentage values for Auto Levels in the Remove Color Cast box, instead of say a slider or the traditional levels histogram? Wouldn't a slider be more user friendly and still be able to show percentage values, or is there an advantage by showing all the values in the drop-down?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 03:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/160-auto-levels/</guid>
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		<title>Layers and blending matters...</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/158-layers-and-blending-matters/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The subject of a poster came up in another thread, so here's an good example of what I would like to do, starting from a photo I like:<br />
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<a href='http://www.ibelieveinadv.com/2011/07/zoo-budapest-zoopark/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.ibelieveinadv.com/2011/07/zoo-budapest-zoopark/</a><br />
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It should be pretty easy, and it involves essentially a ) stylizing a photo and b ) blending it with other color coordinated images which all match a color swatch created from a base, dominant hue.<br />
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The first step - creating a stylized effect from a photo - I can get something usable with a few available effects in Sagelight. <br />
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The second part will probably be feasible in the upcoming versions. This involves merging the stylized image with a suitable, color coordinated background texture, adjusting the blended/merged image, creating a frame for it, creating a suitable frame, borders, adding the text and blending them on top of the stylized adjusted image.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 03:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/158-layers-and-blending-matters/</guid>
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		<title>Post Processing - great examples</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/159-post-processing-great-examples/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I thought I'd post a few examples of great photography and post-processing work:<br />
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Jaime Ibarra: <a href='http://jaimeibarra.deviantart.com/gallery/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://jaimeibarra.deviantart.com/gallery/</a><br />
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Patrick Lavoie: <a href='http://espacephotos.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://espacephotos.com/</a><br />
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Anton Corbijn: <a href='http://focusfeatures.com/profile/anton_corbijn' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://focusfeatures.com/profile/anton_corbijn</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/159-post-processing-great-examples/</guid>
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		<title>Standard Version vs. Pro -- cheap and simplified, or just less expensive?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/153-standard-version-vs-pro-cheap-and-simplified-or-just-less-expensive/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[As I start to split Sagelight into the Pro Version and Standard Version, I have come across a conceptual issue that I thought I'd ask about here to get some comments. <br />
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The standard version is really just a subset of the Pro Version.  There is a lot about Sagelight that really needs to be in a Pro Version to give some of the more advanced functions a reason to be more noticed as advanced features that took a very long time to develop.  Things like the LightBlender, Power Curves, Pro Saturation, and a number of other items really are highly-developed algorithms that I think get a little lost with all of the other features, since Sagelight has quite a few features and it's hard to tell sometimes which are more powerful than others if you don't have some experience with them.  <br />
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In that regard, the Pro Version makes sense.  Also, splitting Sagelight makes it easier for non-hobbyists and beginners by focusing on more basic things. While still containing some great technology developed for Sagelight (such as Sagelight Vibrance, various other color space work, SSE2/SSE4 realtime code, etc.), the standard version can focus more on the idea that you can just move some sliders and press some buttons and get things done with your image by just getting an experiential/visceral feel for what things do over a small amount of time. <br />
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The standard version, though, does present a choice.  I could make it a cheap (i.e. $20 or so) streamlined version that has a very reduced set of features, or keep it in the $30-$40 range (as I raise the price of the Pro Version to whatever it needs to be) with more of a midrange focus. <br />
<br />
The difference would be that a streamlined/cheap standard version wouldn't contain the Light Blender at all, where the midrange would include the standard set of functions with the 5-band equalizer and one channel (as opposed to the two).  The streamlined version wouldn't contain the Pro Quick Edit Mode at all, and the midrange version would include it but without the Color Space options and a couple other options.   A streamlined version wouldn't contain things like the Soft Glow (a rework is about to be released on that), the Image Smoothing functions (but would include general noise reduction which is upcoming) and a few other items, where the midrange version would include some of these and more functions, or some subset (i.e. non-advanced controls).<br />
<br />
A streamlined version would make for a very light & cheap version of Sagelight, while also making the Pro Version much more capable than the standard version.<br />
On the other hand, a midrange version would be more expensive, but still cheaper than the Pro Version; and this would also make the Pro Version much more focused on only the more high-end & professional-level features (which could be a benefit in terms of being able to pursue these items as separate discussions and concept) such as the Power Curves, advanced Light Blender, Advanced Noise Reduction, HDR functions, Pro Saturation, etc. -- which could serve to highlight the real advanced nature of these functions where they tend to blend in to the entire editor right now and, perhaps, become a little lost. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I was wondering what you might think about the difference, and since, for the time being, anyone who owns/purchases Sagelight has the Pro Version, it's probably a good time to ask. <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Setting _editedN option</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/161-setting-editedn-option/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am wondering if would be possible to have a preferences setting that would allow us to specify a different suffix option for saved files, say IMG_1234aN.JPG, (N being a numeric increment) instead of IMG_1234_edited_N.jpg. This would save us the work of having to always rename the saved files to have a shorter name that better fits in a caption. Also we would not have to type the name when the file is saved.<br />
<br />
Additionally, if it would be possible to specify if the file extension to be uppercase (JPG) or lowercase (jpg). Right now files are always saved with a lower case extension. <br />
<br />
There also seems to be a problem when trying to change the jpg lowercase extension to uppercase JPG, Win7 does not seem to want to accept it. This only happens with files saved by Sagelight. The workaround is to make a copy of the file, in which case it either automatically switches from jpg to JPG (but I have to delete the "copy" part), or manually rename the file. I am not sure if this is a Windows 7 problem, maybe somebody could check this?<br />
<br />
None of this is a big deal, but it does add upp since I always have to rename the files and change the extension manually. Yes, I could use a third party tool, but wouldn't it be nice to have this as an editor preference setting sometime in a future release?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/161-setting-editedn-option/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight scripting</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/145-sagelight-scripting/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I know you've mentioned that you're working to introduce some scripting abilities into SL - which I'm quite interested in. Can you share any info regarding the scripting engine employed by SL? Is it something you've developed yourself or is it a 3rd party library (with readily available net-based info)?  Regardless of the language, I assume you're working to develop some sort of API to expose the necessary SL internals to the scripting library?<br />
<br />
Just curious what info (if any) is currently available on the SL scripting system.<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/145-sagelight-scripting/</guid>
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		<title>XMP and IPTC info lost when saving?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/163-xmp-and-iptc-info-lost-when-saving/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi.<br />
<br />
It seems that in both the latest and previous version, the XMP and/or IPTC info stored in the JPG files are lost when saving. Can others confirm this?<br />
<br />
It also seems that the embedded thumbnail is not updated when saving a file. For example when converting to B&W and saving, programs just picking up the embedded thumb still shows the Color version of the picture. Is this only be or can other confirm my finding?<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Trond]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/163-xmp-and-iptc-info-lost-when-saving/</guid>
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		<title>Check Boxes Unchecked</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/165-check-boxes-unchecked/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've requested this several times previously but I find it a real pain having to keep checking check boxes such as the "maintain aspect ratio" ... surely when an aspect ratio is selected, a user would want to maintain it ?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/165-check-boxes-unchecked/</guid>
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		<title>Saving Preferences</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/31-saving-preferences/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
Just a small suggestion for a future upgrade and that is the ability to create or save settings. For example, in the Effects tab, I might want to save a favourite setting to recall at another time (sorta like what Topaz etc has). Even LightBlender would benefit.<br />
<br />
An application/plugin I mentioned (PhotoChances) saves the effect setting in the EXIF data on an image. Just an idea.<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
<br />
David Jacobs]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/31-saving-preferences/</guid>
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		<title>Soft Glow / Soft Focus problem</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/162-soft-glow-soft-focus-problem/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This happens a lot with the 4.1.5.4 beta, I know it is a beta, but I am noting it just in case:<br />
<br />
When opening the Soft Glow effect from the menu, the image comes up with the default soft glow settings and optimal luminosity (brightness). As soon as I move the blur slider to the left to reduce the blur effect, the image suddenly darkens, instead of just reducing the blur. I am not sure if this is to be expected or not. Anyway, the way around this is to move the brightness slider around, but several times, as the first time it does not seem to have effect.<br />
<br />
This happened with several images I edited and is reproducible.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/162-soft-glow-soft-focus-problem/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[If you've been wondering where I've been in the last few days...]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/164-if-youve-been-wondering-where-ive-been-in-the-last-few-days/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
<br />
Just to let you know I've been taking a break as I have a little bit of a cold (those darn kids!), so I've been answering messages selectively and just generally taking the week off.  I'll be back 100% after the weekend, but I will still be around here and there, too. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know since I've answered some messages and not others, based on how time-relevant I thought they were.   Also, if you're wondering about the site -- Even though the lifetime sale is over, I haven't changed it over from the sale notices yet (so I will honor purchases until I do) because my cold hasn't given me the time to do that -- I am looking at redesigning the site, so it's taking a little bit longer.  <br />
<br />
Plus, I haven't finished the standard version split yet, as I got bogged down in making some new functionality as fast as possible, notably some "variable blur" code that came out too promising not to include -- there I go again, but I can't help myself... I just love to develop, what can I say? <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/164-if-youve-been-wondering-where-ive-been-in-the-last-few-days/</guid>
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		<title>Top minor improvements</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/168-top-minor-improvements/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Just taking the opportunity to consolidate here the top minor improvements, already mentioned elsewhere, that hopefully can make it to the next release:<br />
<br />
- Edited file naming preferences/settings<br />
<br />
- Remember last file open / last file saved location<br />
<br />
- Preserve all camera EXIF information<br />
<br />
- Power Histogram Window and Color Space RGB window: don't open by default, don't place them on top of image but below power curve, or maybe remember user position <br />
<br />
I chose these because they create the most additional work to always have to rename the files, navigate to last open/last save file location, restore the lost EXIF information, or move out of the way the windows that cover the edited image. Since I retouch a lot of files, this all adds up quickly.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/168-top-minor-improvements/</guid>
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		<title>Vignette Blur - blur disabled</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/166-vignette-blur-blur-disabled/</link>
		<description>In the latest beta release: in the Vignette Blur panel the blur amount control seems to be disabled; if the show contrast controls is enabled any movement produces a vignette after which the control is disabled as well. Also, the menu entry is Blur Vignette whereas the panel title is Vignette Blur.</description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/166-vignette-blur-blur-disabled/</guid>
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		<title>iPhone app photo effects</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/170-iphone-app-photo-effects/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There seem to be more and more iPhone applications that create great photo effects. More and more of these iPhone apps not only include great effects but also editing tools with even layers, curves, and masks. For those interested in this new breed of photo editing apps, the <a href='http://www.iphoneography.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.iphoneography.com/</a> site is a good source for more reviews and examples.<br />
<br />
A couple of examples include:<br />
<br />
Instagram: <a href='http://instagr.am/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://instagr.am/</a> and its examples <a href='http://instaview.me/popular/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://instaview.me/popular/</a><br />
<br />
Photosyn Bleach Bypass: <a href='http://fotosyn.com/bleach-bypass/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://fotosyn.com/bleach-bypass/</a><br />
<br />
Instagram has a huge following- in the millions, and is a real phenomenon. The effects are great so I searched for Photoshop actions that I might use as examples to try and create similar effects in Sagelight. This is what I found:<br />
<br />
<a href='http://dbox.tumblr.com/post/5426249009/instagram-filters-as-photoshop-actions' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://dbox.tumblr.com/post/5426249009/instagram-filters-as-photoshop-actions</a><br />
<br />
The bleach bypass effect is really easy to do in Sagelight: reduce saturation, increase brightenss or exposure, increase contrast, optionally add a tint with the tone blender. <br />
<br />
What I like about these iPhone and iPad applications is that I can visually select an effect preset, apply it and, with some of the apps, modify it with a few sliders that go with the effect. This is definitely a lot faster than going through all the steps needed to re-create an effect for each individual image. Another benefit of the presets is that I don't have to go through the editing steps and later see that the effect is not the best suited for the particular image. Instead, I can quickly try them out then select the one that works best and just modify it. <br />
<br />
The Instagram effects could be done by applying a cross-processing effect with power curves, applying tone blender tints, vignette, vignette blur, all on a square crop of the image. I don't know of any way to apply the Instagram type borders in Sagelight, but that will be possible later when the upcoming layers function will allow to load images of border presets and blend them on top of or around the image. The Sagelight Tone Blender presets are also a good starting point, with a lot more editing power in the Tone Blender controls.<br />
<br />
I posted a few examples of similar effects I created with Sagelight on Flickr at: <a href='http://www.flickr.com/photos/intermedion/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.flickr.com/photos/intermedion/</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/170-iphone-app-photo-effects/</guid>
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		<title>tab and clone 4.1. beta</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/169-tab-and-clone-41-beta/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Relocation of target area with tab key fails<br />
have to cancel to get back to traditional method.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/169-tab-and-clone-41-beta/</guid>
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		<title>Comodo Products Cause Registration Failure for versions past 3.1</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/171-comodo-products-cause-registration-failure-for-versions-past-31/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[It took a couple of days of serious hair pulling to figure out why the lifetime key would not work.  <br />
Somehow the wizards at Comodo somehow manage to hose the connections to the registration server "if" you elect to use their secure dns servers on the install of their web browser Dragon or their Internet Security package. This didn't affect the reinstall of 3.1 for some reason. Perhaps different servers, different code. Regardless a real PITA to sort out.<br />
<br />
So, be warned. If you want to use the best editor on the planet you will have to avoid Comodo Dragon's servers or learn to disable them in your network connections. (it's a checkbox under properties)<br />
<br />
A week trying to work nef without Sagelight was brutal! <br />
<br />
seve]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/171-comodo-products-cause-registration-failure-for-versions-past-31/</guid>
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		<title>Question on Sagelight color management on dpreview</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/174-question-on-sagelight-color-management-on-dpreview/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi All, <br />
<br />
there is a thread with a question on Sagelight color management in the dpreview forum.  Perhaps somebody here can contribute something knowledgeable - I am not familiar with this topic.   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> <br />
<br />
<a href='http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1006&thread=39042697' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1006&thread=39042697</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/174-question-on-sagelight-color-management-on-dpreview/</guid>
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		<title>File open quirck</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/176-file-open-quirck/</link>
		<description>When opening a file I always have to navigate away from the folder where I last saved an edited file to the folder where I keep the raw files. However, after I get to the new folder location, Sagelight jumps back to the previously remembered file location, so I have to navigate away again to the new location.</description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/176-file-open-quirck/</guid>
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		<title>Upcoming in the next release 4.2</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/136-upcoming-in-the-next-release-42/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The idea of posting the plans for the next release and general plans came up in another thread.  I thought I'd post here about what is coming up in the next release (or two), which will be 4.2.  It was slated as 4.1.6, but I've changed it to 4.2 since a lot has been added to it. <br />
<br />
The next release might be split into two releases over the next 2-3 weeks, but I'll just put it here as one release. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Version 4.2 Development Items</span></span><br />
<br />
1. <strong class='bbc'>Upgrade of Vignette Feature.</strong>  This will include the new code created for the Tone Blender, which allows multiple modes (such as Hard and Burn modes), as well as different colors for the vignette.  <br />
<br />
Features: <br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. A  more clear ability to select the vignette shape by using a thumbnail window to visualize the shape of the raw vignette.  <br />
b. Circular/Elliptical, Square, and rotatable Gradient Vignetting (top, bottom, or both).  These exist in the current vignette function, but these will be easer to use. <br />
c. Soft, Default, Hard, Burn, Color Burn merge modes. <br />
d. Curves. Curves button to control the shape of the gradient on the vignette (this may not appear in the first release)<br />
</div><br />
2. <strong class='bbc'>Upgrade/Fix of the Soft Focus Feature</strong>.  This will upgrade the current Soft Focus feature as well as fix the blur problems accidentally introduced in the current version.<br />
<br />
Features:<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. The Sharpening level will now be controllable<br />
b. A Merge Percent Slider will exist -- it was found that merging with the previous image worked well.<br />
c. Curves (pretty much everything has a curves option these days for those interested).  This will help control how the highlights work with the image and the contrast levels applied</div><br />
3. <strong class='bbc'>Variable Blur and Upgrade/Fix of the Blur Vignette Feature</strong>.  This will upgrade the current Vignette Blur that was somewhat broken with the last release. <br />
<br />
Features:<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. Same size/shape/circle/gradient functions as the Vignette Feature<br />
b. Variable Blur.  This will allow you to set a variable blur based on the mask set with the vignette. <br />
c. Curves Support for gradient changes.  This is specifically interesting for Depth-of-field functions to get the right gradient dropoff.<br />
d. Masking Support.  This will allow you to draw a variable mask on the image to control the variable blur for specific items.  i.e. Tilt-Shift items in the foreground, etc.<br />
e. Tilt-Shift Support.   The variable blur will help with tilt-shift, as well as the masking.  It should allow for some very impressive tilt-shift pictures. </div><br />
<br />
4. <strong class='bbc'>Low-Level Noise-Reduction on RAW load (and as a general function)</strong>.  I've been doing research on how to reduce noise on RAW images (and low-level noise, in general) without wiping out image detail (which is as task, really).  I've come up with a solution and am converting it to work with 16-bits per channel. <br />
<br />
Features: <br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. This will provide very clean images for raw loads, even ones that aren't noisy.  RAW images still have a 'grain' of sorts, and this will help create clear images without detail loss. <br />
b. Despeckling.  A despeckling feature will be added for images that have speckling.  This occurs on RAW images occasionally. <br />
c. Generalized Feature.  Both the low-level noise-reduction and despeckling will be offered as general one-pass functions to quickly clean an image. </div><br />
<br />
5. <strong class='bbc'>Adaptive Histogram Equalization</strong>.  This will provide some interesting HDR-like effects as well as being useful for local contrast effects -- the inclusion of this feature was one of the reasons why the "Difference Map" mode exists in the Image Blending feature.  <br />
<br />
Features: <br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. This is based on an algorithm dating back to 1996 in Graphic Gems IV (I think).  It's pretty useful, and I've found some very interesting ways to apply it in Sagelight.  It will just have to wait until I can get some examples out. <br />
b. This is a precursor to a fully-developed HDR implementation scheduled for later this year (version 5). </div><br />
<br />
6. <strong class='bbc'>RAW Thumbnail Display</strong>.  I am behind on the Raw Browser implementation because it has been converted into a very large project for overall file management (these notes will appear in the plans for "Sagelight 5" coming shortly).  The next release will include a RAW thumbnail display that will show the RAW thumbnail when you click on the icon in the File Manager/Browser.<br />
<br />
<br />
7. <strong class='bbc'>Script Box</strong>.  OO-based scripting is being worked on, and will start appearing with more and more functionality.  The first implementation is the "Script Box".  The main purpose is to allow code to be dropped into a small edit box to control Sagelight which will help with demonstrations and examples, as well as saved scripts to perform specific functions (this may appear in a subsequent version)<br />
<br />
Features:<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
<br />
a. You can grab script snippets from the Blog and Discussion board and drop them right into the Script Box to try them on your image.<br />
<br />
b. You can modify the scripts to do other things, as well as come up with poups, dialogs, etc.<br />
<br />
c. This is the first implementation of a much more powerful scripting and batching feature that is being developed currently.</div><br />
<br />
8. <strong class='bbc'>Various Feature Requests and Bug Fixes</strong><br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
a. Reload RAW FIle with Options/Highlight Recovery. This will reload the last file with the RAW options presented.  Also, the "range overflow" popup that tells you to try Highlight Recovery will have a button to automatically reload the image with the same options you loaded it with + highlight-recovery ON. <br />
b. Crop Bug Fix.  There has been a bug that causes entry into the Crop Input dialog to have problems.  I was able to reproduce it, so now I can fix it. <br />
c. JPEG auto-rotate.  It was in, now it's gone... I don't know what caused it to disappear, but it will be fixed so that Jpegs auto-rotate. <br />
d. RAW color profiles.  I am not sure of the extent of the issue, but RAW color profiles will load correctly for ALL RAW images. <br />
e. RAW GPS data.  This is not currently being implemented correctly and will be fixed. <br />
f. .TIFF EXIF information.  There are some problems here, and the EXIF data will write correctly out to JPEG files. <br />
g. "Gamma Slider" problem.  There is a bug where the Gamma Slider in the Power Box doesn't work on SSE2 systems if it's the first slider moved.  This will be fixed. <br />
h. Various other bug fixes.<br />
i. Help Text for the LightBlender, Tone Blender, and other features not documented since the last release.</div><br />
<br />
9. <strong class='bbc'>Split into Standard and Pro Version</strong>.  This will be when the lifetime sale ends (on July 1st) and the Pro Version (which is now the version being purchased) will separate as its own title.<br />
<br />
<br />
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.  I am sure there are a couple things I forgot, but those are the major things being worked on for a release around the 1st of July.   As I mentioned, this may be split into two separate releases to get some of the major things done for the split on July 1st.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/136-upcoming-in-the-next-release-42/</guid>
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		<title>Minimize program - open file bug</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/180-minimize-program-open-file-bug/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I opened a file and while it was processing it I minimized Sagelight. If I go back and maximize it, Sagelight shows a small box instead of the image and a please wait message. There is no further response, the file does not open. The quick work-around is to do an open recent file.<br />
To avoid this problem, do not minimize the program.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 00:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/180-minimize-program-open-file-bug/</guid>
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		<title>Anybody heard from Rob?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/185-anybody-heard-from-rob/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[OK, my curiosity is getting the better of me, so I'm wondering if anybody has heard anything from/about Rob recently?  From what I can tell, it doesn't look like he's posted anything in the last month.  I hope everything is OK.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/185-anybody-heard-from-rob/</guid>
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		<title>White Balance Controls</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/191-white-balance-controls/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hello<br />
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I am using your program for the first time and I am very impressed!!  Currently I use Lightroom 3 and I was wondering if Sagelight has a comparable control for adjusting white balance easily?  Also I was wondering if you have a suggested work flow for editing RAW images?   Thanks for your assistance.<br />
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Brodie]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/191-white-balance-controls/</guid>
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		<title>Bokeh/Lens Blur/Fast DOF almost ready...</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/195-bokehlens-blurfast-dof-almost-ready/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
I just thought I'd let you know where I am at with the release primarily featuring the Lens Blur/Bokeh/DOF functions (and masking improvements, etc.), especially since I was targeting a release date over a week ago!<br />
<br />
That last 5% is definitely time-consuming.  Actually, it's more literally the last .1%. <br />
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If you've ever wondered where the time goes on things like this (I know I do), I thought  I might share a little about my life as a software developer <br />
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Basically, the last couple days were about making the lens blur as fast as possible in addition to a number of bug fixes (display issues, etc.). <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Multi-Processing is really what is all about</strong><br />
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A Lens Blur is extremely time- and memory-consuming and, as such, a lot of code has to work to be as fast as possible while conserving memory.  A Lens Blur works with a memory kernel (i.e. a memory array that contains the shape of the blur for each different size, which can be in the millions, but is typically in 10's of thousands), and -- theoretically -- has to create up to as many kernels as you have pixels in your image.  Even if you have 10 gigs of memory that can be too much memory.  Plus, one of the factors in creating the kernels is that it can be massively time-consuming to create a complex shape (i.e. besides a square or a circle, such as a circle with a gradient, for example).<br />
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I felt that the kernel creation was a little slow so I made it work on multiple processors.  Well, that took a while to make sure it worked well and without any memory leaks.  It turned out well, and the end-result is upwards of a 10x increase in speed!  This matters in a couple areas:<br />
<br />
1. Real-time display.  Each time you change the amount of the blur, all radius kernels need to be generated.  If you're moving the slider back-and-forth, it has to start all over again until you stop.  But, it's trying to maintain a real-time display to give you an image in real-time, or close to it.  It can come up with a preview image pretty fast (a 5x5 or 3x3 version while it calculates the rest), but the kernels need to be created first.  So, increasing the kernel creation makes the display much faster. <br />
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2. On Output.  Most images are much larger than the display.   A typical image these days can easily be 5000x4000 in size.  It turns out the time it takes to perform a variable lens blur -- properly, that is -- is exponential depending on the size of your image vs. display.  Not only is it a ^2 for the same blur, but the output is much higher resolution, making the output blur as much ^2*256 of the display.  This means it needs to general 256 times as many kernels at p^2 (where p is how much bigger your image is vs. the display image.).  So, if you have a display of 1600x1200 (effectively 1300 pixels across) and an image width of 5000, then the blur is going to take upwards of 2300 times as long to create as the one you're working with before you press the Apply button.  Well, it was too slow because the kernel creation was not multi-processing and it also needed to pre-compute some values ahead of time.  <br />
<br />
On my development computer it was fast enough, but when I tested it on a slower computer, I thought it was too slow.  The dividend was much faster processing all around on every computer! <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Why the function is Recalculated on the Apply</strong><br />
<br />
I have been asked why most functions recalculate the image you're looking at when you press the Apply Button -- the reason is because Sagelight is showing you the results as fast as possible and has to cut corners to do that.  Sagelight then recalculates everything to make sure its in the highest resolution possible.  An example is the Unsharp Mask -- it's only showing you an 8-bit per-channel version because it doesn't really matter in the display.  It's the next thing you do where you see the problems with 8-bit per-channel processing.  So, when you press Apply it does it again, this time in 16-bits per-channel. <br />
<br />
Oh, I should mention this, too -- most functions in Sagelight process internally at 32-bits per-channel floating-point.  When I say 16-bits, this is the result image itself being convert to a full 48-bit image, when internally it is being calculated at 96 or 192 bits per-channel floating point. <br />
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<br />
<br />
<br />
Anyway, I just thought I'd share why some things take longer than expected -- what happens in the lab is one thing, but when it comes to making it work for everyone, as fast and useful as possible, some things certainly do come up at the last minute -- especially with heavy things like this.... And I do mean heavy!<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/195-bokehlens-blurfast-dof-almost-ready/</guid>
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		<title>Rob?!!</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/188-rob/</link>
		<description>Again, it is worth repeating - where is Rob? Give us a sign. I posted a new photograph, care to comment? Would anyone like to comment...</description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/188-rob/</guid>
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		<title>ICC profiles stripped</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/197-icc-profiles-stripped/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The problem of losing a picture's ICC profile after processing in Sagelight is still present. I just processed almost 100 photos of a recent trip to the beach using a Nikon D90 camera; about a half dozen of the photos (originally NEFs) lost their ICC profiles after being touched by Sagelight.<br />
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The processing sequence:  Initial development of the NEFs in Photoshop CS5.1, save to TIFF; final processing either in Sagelight (95%) or in Raw Therapee 4.0 (5%), and save to JPG. I usually use Photoshop for initial NEF processing due to its lens distortion correction feature and easy batch operation.<br />
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All the photos saved from Photoshop (in TIFF) contained ICC info.<br />
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All the photos saved from Raw Therapee 4.0 (in JPG) contained ICC info.<br />
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All but about a half dozen of the photos saved from Sagelight (in JPG) had ICC info.<br />
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At the time the photos were processed I didn't check the JPGs for saved ICC info so I'm not sure of what sequence of operations caused Sagelight to discard the ICC info. I tried to duplicate it by reprocessing several NEF files through the same workflow but all the resultant photos had ICC info. Occasionally when the old Lightbox "save" box came up instead of the newer Sagelight "save" box, the ICC info was still saved.<br />
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Rob, I know this isn't very much to go on but there is still *something* in Sagelight that doesn't like ICC info.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tone Blender - small feature enhancement request</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/206-tone-blender-small-feature-enhancement-request/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[When using the Tone Blender, many times I like to start with a preset and then tweak things from there.  However, since I like different presets with different images, many times I'm not sure what I'm looking for until I see it.  So, I find myself just blindly clicking through the list of presets looking for something that's pleasing.  <br />
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This process would be much easier if I could scroll through the preset list using the arrow keys.  So, down would simply move to (and automatically select) the next preset. Otherwise, I need to shift my focus from the image to the preset list (to mouse select the next one), which kind of breaks up the workflow.<br />
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What do you think?<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/206-tone-blender-small-feature-enhancement-request/</guid>
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		<title>4.2c beta - Minor issues</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/204-42c-beta-minor-issues/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Looking at the latest beta (4.2c)...<br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>There's a typo in "Bokeh/Lens Blur panel | Mask Selection | High<span class='bbc_underline'><strong class='bbc'>t</strong></span>light Mask".  Note the extra "t" in "highlight".<br /></li><li>Also, I noticed that when the Bokeh panel is active, it's not possible to access most of the items found in the main "Help" menu.  Is this intended?</li></ul><br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/204-42c-beta-minor-issues/</guid>
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		<title>Good news on the RAW browser front</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/200-good-news-on-the-raw-browser-front/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>RAW thumbnail support available through Microsoft Plug-in for Windows 7 & Vista</span></span><br />
<br />
My desire to wait for Microsoft to get it into gear and support RAW formats in their browser has finally paid off.. mostly. <br />
<br />
Microsoft has a package you can download that will allow the Windows Explorer Window (used by Sagelight) to display the RAW thumbnails. <br />
<br />
You can go to this web-page to download them:<br />
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<a href='http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=26829#additional-information' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=26829#overview</a><br />
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and I will post them on the website and make them available for download.  Perhaps seeing this as a huge oversight on their part, Microsoft has released these packages for free and allows them to be openly distributed. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #a0522d'>How to Install the RAW support</span></strong><br />
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Just click on the program and run.  You don't need to reboot or discontinue use of any program.  I just put it in, ran it, and suddenly RAW thumbnail support in Sagelight and general Windows Browsing. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #a0522d'>For RAW types not supported</span></strong><br />
<br />
Read the notes below, as I will be continuing to work in implementing a RAW browser for other reasons -- that is, a very comprehensive, detailed RAW browser oriented to image editing.  However, this current solution works well for most RAW types.  For those that are not supported, I will be quickly (i.e. next 2-3 weeks) adding support that allows you to click (but not load) on a thumbnail and it will display the thumbnail for you in either a new window or some box in the open file window (as long as Sagelight supports the RAW format). <br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Why I waited to write a RAW browser</span></span><br />
<br />
I have been purposely reluctant to write a full-blown RAW browser for many reasons, and a lot of that was based on the (wrong) assumption that Microsoft would release RAW support or at least some callback support for programmers (still bewildered about that), which didn't happen. <br />
<br />
So, I decided to write one very recently.  Actually, this package from Microsoft doesn't change those plans, but it eases up having to do it quickly. <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #a0522d'>The reason I wanted Windows to support the RAW browsing in Sagelight (rather than writing one) is two-fold:</span></strong><br />
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<div class='bbc_indent'>1.<strong class='bbc'> I have yet to find a RAW browser out there that I like</strong>.  They are all very specific to the programs they're written for and I think they become too much of an inclusive thing; you have to understand them for that product and they are typically not intuitive.  The best I've seen is the one in Picasa and I still find it very annoying (that is not a slam in Picasa; I rather like their browser.  It's a good implementation. I mean to say that the best I've seen still has problems I don't want to see in Sagelight).   Another popular program, Sagelight's main competitor, for example, has a browser that keeps me away from using the program entirely, even for comparison purposes, and I know I am not alone there -- that's definitely a territory I wish to avoid; the problem is that you don't know how you're limiting people until you've done it, hence my desire to wait for Microsoft.</div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
Basically, any given product development team (in the case of Sagelight, that's me) has their ideas and they implement them, just as I would.  That in of itself is not a problem, but the problem happens when every browser out there is different.  Then it becomes distracting and annoying as you switch from program to program.<br />
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</div><div class='bbc_indent'>2. <strong class='bbc'>With Windows Explorer/OS-based browser, it's standard</strong>.  You already know what to do.  It's universal and you know what to expect. Even if you use a specific product every day that has its own browser it becomes hard to use because we use the browser concept in everything we do on the computer, and to put up with the quirks and idiosyncracies of each different program we use, I didn't want to fall into that trap with Sagelight.<br />
<br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'>From that perspective, I was waiting for Microsoft to provide programmer hooks (which they didn't, as far as I know) and RAW browsing capability with Windows 7.  They finally did the latter, but it isn't supporting all RAW formats, and I don't know what their update schedule is.  <br />
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</div><div class='bbc_indent'>The main idea is that I would have to write an extremely comprehensive browser to avoid the pitfalls outlined above and to provide something that is very, very seamless -- a big job which is now alleviated somewhat (now I can work on the adaptive noise reduction sooner rather than later).</div><br />
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So, I will be continuing to write the RAW browser to support a wider range of functionality.  But, this package by Microsoft adds quite a lot to the RAW browsing solution.<br />
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<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/200-good-news-on-the-raw-browser-front/</guid>
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		<title>Exif time for raw images</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/196-exif-time-for-raw-images/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am a recent and most impressed user of Sagelight - on v 4.1.5.3.  It has replaced Lightroom 3.5 for me, due  not only to it's speed, but to it's vastly superior controls.  However, I am finding a problem on exif data.  Sagelight reads the data on my raw images (in this case from a Sony Nex-5)incorrectly by a factor of 60 minutes.  The exif shooting time shows correctly and consistently when viewing with Exifpro, file explorer, Xnview and every other viewer I have that reads raw exif data.<br />
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This problem does not occur when Sagelight reads companion jpg files shot at the same time.  When I save with Sagelight it permanently updates the raw exif file, and this now shows an hour ahead of the base image when sorted by time in any image or file viewer.  Not an insurmountable problem, but not especially convenient either.  I have been looking through the forum for this issue, and can't see it raised, so wanted to draw it to your attention.  Delighted to see a raw viewer will be added soon, and many other enhancements, but I think this may be a bug, and if so, wonder if it could be added to the fix list?<br />
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Below I attach a link to a screen shot of an raw image (DSC01210.ARW) in Sagelight, with exipro and windows explorer boxes overlaid showing the true time.<br />
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<a href='http://www.mcaughtry.com/WP/wp-content/gallery/general-images/exif-data-1-hour-out-2.png' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.mcaughtry.com/WP/wp-content/gallery/general-images/exif-data-1-hour-out-2.png</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/196-exif-time-for-raw-images/</guid>
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		<title>A low-key announcement</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/198-a-low-key-announcement/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am happy to announce that a beta of Sagelight version 4.2 is ready. <br />
<br />
I guess I shouldn't use the word 'announce', since I will be doing that tomorrow.  This is a beta that is ready for anyone who would like to try it an give feedback on it -- which would be much appreciated. <br />
<br />
There is a lot of new code in this new version. I have tested it quite a bit across multiple computers, but you never know. <br />
<br />
I will be making a more official announcement tomorrow with more details, examples, etc. <br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Some brief notes about this beta. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>1. Features Included</span></span><br />
<br />
The main feature, as I have been discussing in various posts, is the Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Depth of Field functions.  I have added two separate functions, one called "Bokeh / Lens Blur" and another called "Fast Depth of Field".  You can actually do everything in the Bokeh / Lens Blur that you can in the Fast Depth of Field function, but I split them into two functions for a couple reasons.<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
1. The Bokeh function is quite expansive, convering quite a few more controls than needed for just depth of field.  So, putting the depth of field in a separate function helps keep it simple. <br />
2. The Depth of Field function is very fast compared to the Bokeh Function (which is also pretty fast for Bokeh/Lens Blur), and it is worth separating into its own function to make the point about it.  In the Bokeh/Lens Blur, you can click "Fast DOF" to turn on the Depth of Field -- this is a nice thing to use even if you're doing a Lens Blur/Bokeh effect (not available in the DOF mode) because you can position the auto-mask, edit your own mask, etc., all much faster. </div><br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Multi-Processing</strong><br />
<br />
I have added a lot of multi-processor code to this new version.  When you're running the Bokeh/Lens Blur function, it will use all the processors on your computer that it finds.  It would be great to get feedback on this.  I am considering the idea of adding a 'processor reserve' where it will use all but one of your processors so it allows other processes to do their thing in the background -- though the Bokeh / Lens Blur is a very intensive function, so its better for it to use everything it finds.<br />
<br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Bokeh / Lens Blur</strong><br />
<br />
I will be doing a lot of documentation on this in the next few weeks, but there are a few things to consider: <br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
1. The Bokeh & Lens Blur functionality implemented is very extensive. You can create an automatic shaped mask (i.e. circle, ellipse, recangle, planar, etc.), edit your own mask on top of that as a selection mask or depth mask, edit a highlight mask, as well as control quite a few more factors. <br />
<br />
2. The original idea behind the Bokeh was to add it on top of a variable blur (the depth of field function).  But, as I went along it transformed into something more and more useful.  This is why it took much longer to get it developed; I found during my research that using the Lens Blur and Bokeh functions (I don't separate the two as they go hand-in-and; the term 'Bokeh' is often used to specify the intention of 'Bokeh' when the term is actually being used to encapsulate the idea of Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Depth of field combined (which is why I keep using all three terms)).  </div><br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>You might like it even if you're not into the idea of 'Bokeh', per se. </strong><br />
<br />
In so many ways, I am only using the term 'Bokeh' because that's the term that is used out there, where I really do mean the entire concept of Depth of Field, Lens Blur, Highlights, Specular reflections; all of that individually or together depending on what you want to do. <br />
<br />
Anyway, the main idea is this: it came up in a discussion thread that Bokeh is one of those functions where some people will be interested and some won't, as bokeh is generally a niche item (not to mention expensive to buy). But, as I moved along with it -- and added more and more features -- I found it to be more and more useful.  I think the Lens Blur/Bokeh/Depth of Field concept is much more interesting for me than before I started the project -- which is why I continued on it even after I got what I was looking for.  It turns out that a fully-featured, extensive, fast, and easy to use bokeh/lens blur set of functionality is a very complex task.  <br />
<br />
Time will tell how well I did in this implementation.  So far, it works well for me and I am sure I will add more to it over time.  I can already think of some things I'd like to do as extensions.<br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>Other features</span></span><br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>1. Revamped Brushes</strong><br />
<br />
I re-wrote the brushes for the Masking, Clone Brush and Undo Brush.  They work much better.  Actually, I was quite surprised at how much smoother the Clone Brush is -- actually very surprised... It blends much better. <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>2. Undo Brush Additions and Fixes</strong><br />
<br />
I fixed the display issues with the Undo Brush, and also added a "Show Mask feature".  Since you're really editing a layer mask, I added a feature where you can see the mask you're creating.  This helps show you where you may have missed spots (you can show it as an opaque black-and-white image, where it is easy to see streaks and such that you might not otherwise notice) as well as edit the mask with some precision (you can see the mask details with a grayscale image behind it to track edges and fine points much better). <br />
<br />
The display issue where the display would not update after looking at the before/after/original image has been fixed. <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>3. Revamped Masking</strong><br />
<br />
I revamped the general masking (i.e. 'draw mask'). <div class='bbc_indent'><br />
<br />
a. I updated the brush display so it doesn't look blocky. <br />
b. There is now a transparency factor -- now you have radius, hardness, pressure, and transparency. <br />
c. The mask is automatically saved.  When you dismiss the mask it is still present when you come back into the masking.  It now works more like an alpha channel. <br />
d. You can load and save masks, as well as import and export the masks through the undo buffer.  This helps work with multiple editors; for example, you might use the tools in one program to create a mask and then want to use it in Sagelight. <br />
e. You can bring the mask in as the main image to edit it.  You can also create a mask from the main image -- which has advantages, too. </div><br />
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Mask Keys:  I am about to add keys for the mask (as well as clone brush and undo brush) to make using the brushes easier.   I want to get some idea first.  My current plan is as follows:<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
1. The mousewheel will resize the brush up & down.<br />
2. 'x' will switch the mode back-and-forth from adding to the mask and subtracting. </div><br />
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There could also be some other keys, just give me some ideas there.  I could also use the right mouse click to bring up a smaller menu where you can adjust the pressure, etc.<br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>2. Features Not Included</span></span><br />
<br />
In this beta release, there are a few features not released.  I will hopefully release the rest by the end of the week. <br />
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These are basically the CLAHE implmentation and various bug fixes, including the ICC issue with some RAW images. <br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>3. Known Bugs</span></span><br />
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There are a couple known bugs I ran across that have not been addressed. <br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
1. On Netbooks with 1024x600 screens, the Bokeh function menu runs off the screen.  The current minimum screen size is 1024x768 for the bokeh, but I will fix that.  Keep in mind, though, that most Netbooks only have one processor, so this means the Bokeh will be slow on the apply for very large images (the display will be fast, though). <br />
<br />
2. When you're working with the Radius Map/Reticle in the Bokeh, when it becomes very small it wants to select some of the buttons that allow you to change the size, shape, and angle of the radius map/reticle.    Just click elsewhere on the screen and move the mouse where you want to go when this happens.  When the radius is small, all the buttons group together and the program needs to decide which button is closer to the mouse. <br />
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3. Help Files.  Since this is the executable and not the entire package, the help for the new features will come up as help from other functions.  The help file is included in the overall package and will appear when I release the beta officially in the next couple days.</div><br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>4. Where to download</span></span><br />
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You can find it at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight4.2.Beta.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight4.2.Beta.exe</a><br />
<br />
It is in the form of a .exe file so you can just run it as long as you have Sagelight already installed.  This will work with the trial version, as well. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #8b0000'>5. Bokeh Inclusion in Sagelight Generally</span></span><br />
<br />
I have not decided where to place the Bokeh function in Sagelight.  As I mentioned in another thread, this is functionality that ranges from $99-$200 out there in the market, with many of these packages having either low functionality or low quality (i.e. 8-bit per-channel, noticeable blur quality issues, extreme slowness, etc.) or all three compared to Sagelight. <br />
<br />
As much as I want to write things like this and keep it cheap, such things get lost too easily when just folded into the program when higher-end functions (such as with the LightBlender, Power Curves, and other features) really need to be placed a level above the generic parts of the program.  This is really to be continued.  The main thing is that if you have the lifetime version that is currently still including everything -- I just can't guarantee I will place this tool in Sagelight as a general tool, and I also may remove the Light Blender, Power Curves, and a few other functions from the mainline release -- again, if you have the lifetime version all of this will stay included, including the Bokeh.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Conclusion</span></span><br />
<br />
Thanks in advance for looking at the beta.  I will follow up with quite a few examples -- as I mentioned, one of the reasons I added so much functionality and put so much development into it is because it just kept making it more generally useful as opposed to a niche function.  I will be writing the documentation through the blog over the next few weeks. <br />
<br />
As I mentioned, I will release the beta officially in the next day or so -- this will install as the general program and will also include the help files (which necessarily couldn't be included here since it's not part of the executable).<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>4.2 Beta - Bokeh/Lens Blur Mask crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/199-42-beta-bokehlens-blur-mask-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Messing around with the new 4.2 beta, I'm able to consistently crash the app using these steps:<br />
<br />
- Open a JPEG image<br />
- Open Bokeh/Lens Blur function<br />
- Press "More" tab for more controls<br />
- Press "Edit Mask" button<br />
- Draw a random mask on the image<br />
<br />
The instant I let go of the mouse button (to end the first mask "stroke"), the application crashes with the dreaded "Sagelight 48-bit Image Editor has stopped working" dialog...<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/199-42-beta-bokehlens-blur-mask-crash/</guid>
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		<title>4.2c beta - minor GUI issue in Bokeh panel</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/205-42c-beta-minor-gui-issue-in-bokeh-panel/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
You may already be aware, but consider the following image (from the Bokeh panel):<br />
<br />
<a class='resized_img' rel='lightbox[834]' id='ipb-attach-url-34-0-03093000-1337572703' href="http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=34" title="SL_Color_Threshold.png - Size: 6.67K, Downloads: 27"><img src="http://sagelighteditor.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2011/post-15-0-57257300-1318442294_thumb.png" id='ipb-attach-img-34-0-03093000-1337572703' style='width:100;height:43' class='attach' width="100" height="43" alt="Attached Image: SL_Color_Threshold.png" /></a><br />
<br />
Hmmm... Not sure how to (or if I can) get the full-sized image to show up within the post (click to see full image).  Anyway, notice how the value of the "Color Threshold" slider (97) is uncomfortably close to the title?  Also, once it's slid all the way to 100, the "1" actually overlaps the title.<br />
<br />
I'm running at 1280x960 resolution in case it matters.<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/205-42c-beta-minor-gui-issue-in-bokeh-panel/</guid>
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		<title>Need a RAW files with an embdded ICC profile</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/201-need-a-raw-files-with-an-embdded-icc-profile/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I as looking into the issue of ICC profiles and RAW images.  I believe I have it solved, but there is one thing I need, and that's a file to test it on.  I don't have any equipment that will put a profile into a RAW image, so I was wondering if someone could send me one?  That is, something known to have a profile, such as Adobe RGB in it.  Someone sent me one a while back, and I have been working with it for quite some time and I don't think it has one in it.  I could not find one example on the web either of a RAW file with a profile in it. <br />
<br />
I think there is a lot of confusion on that point.  I want to write a larger article on it, but in a nutshell, here are three points to remember:<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
<br />
1. In the issue of using sRGB vs Adobe, and after some research, I can finally conclude that I am not in favor of shooting in Adobe RGB.  sRGB is the native space, and shooting in Adobe RGB is actually kind of a compression, which you're better off doing later on down the road when you need it.   Basically, there is a loss of quality there. <br />
<br />
2. Some people have noted that they can edit a file with Sagelight, save it, and there will be no ICC profile embedded in it (specifically, an Adobe RGB profile); then, they can edit the same file and do the same sorts of things with another editor and find an Adobe RGB profile in it.  This has been a point of confusion, because it seems like Sagelight is not doing its job in preserving some unseen Adobe Profile. <br />
<br />
This is not the case.  Some editors, especially Adobe editors (understandably, I guess) just do that without asking, as a preset or default.  So, you can start editing a file with an sRGB profile (i.e. not profile) and end up with an Adobe RGB profile. <br />
<br />
Sagelight just uses and saves out whatever profile it finds. <br />
<br />
3. There are some programs that will state "missing profile" <em class='bbc'>as if there should be one in your image at all times else something is wrong.  </em>That is flatly wrong and is some more misinformation put out by these bigger companies wanting to enforce something that isn't needed.  Basically, sRGB is the same as no profile, and it is perfectly fine to not have a profile in your image.  Plus, it saves space, especially if you're saving for the web. <br />
<br />
So, if you see a message such as "Missing profile", it is wrong.  It's not missing.    If you see "No profile" in some program and it puts up a dialog box that has the connotations of an error... it's not.  No profile is just fine and, realistically, is the best way to work on images anyway -- I mean, basically, when you are working with an ICC profile, it converts it when you come in and then when you leave, or at least otherwise is showing you the conversion at all times.  This means that you're basically working within the sRGB or "no-profile" space anyway. <br />
</div><br />
<br />
I just thought I'd mention those three things, especially the last two since there really has been some confusion on that point and I thought I should sort it out.  I will post more about shooting in sRGB vs. Adobe RGB RAW later on. <br />
<br />
Anyway, if someone has a RAW file with a known Adobe RGB profile in it, it would be great.  I think the one I was sent actually had no profile and the confusion was that an Adobe RGB profile was added after the fact by Adobe or some other editor, where the RAW original I was sent didn't have a profile in it at all. <br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Rob<br />
]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>External programs called from within SL</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/210-external-programs-called-from-within-sl/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
Assuming the ability to access external programs from within SL is a feature that's going to stay (and likely grow) moving forward, I'd suggest that you allow Users to define a command line to pass into the external application(s).  That would provide us with the freedom to do things you might not have expected or thought about and free you from constantly defending or changing the internally coded command line calls.<br />
<br />
To do that, many applications provide a set of "keywords" that get dynamically substituted with live data based on context.  While the contents of the keyword list would need to be defined, it would typically allow for the insertion of standard filename / pathname information.  For instance, it might contain:<br />
<br />
<ul class='bbc'><li>%FileNameFull - fully qualified name of current file<br /></li><li>%FileName - name of current file<br /></li><li>%FileExtension - extension of current file<br /></li><li>%FilePath - folder containing current file<br /></li><li>%FileDrive - drive containing current file</li></ul><br />
<br />
Then, I could (for example) call an external application and pass in the current file using the following:<br />
<br />
c:/path/to/external/application.exe %FileNameFull<br />
<br />
Thoughts?<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/210-external-programs-called-from-within-sl/</guid>
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		<title>New 4.2 Beta (beta) Released</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/202-new-42-beta-beta-released/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just put out another beta of the 4.2 beta.   <br />
<br />
It fixes a few things: <br />
<br />
1. The SSE2 Mask crash that was occurring when SSE3 was not supported.  I have tested it thoroughly but don't have an SSE2-only system.  Fortunately, these are fairly rare! Anyway, it should work fine now. <br />
<br />
2. I upgraded how the little buttons/knobs work in the Bokeh & Depth of field map/reticle on the screen.  They were a little iffy with the radius was small but now work very well in terms of being able to move the reticle with the mouse as well as move individual knobs/handles when the radius is very small and they are close together.<br />
<br />
3. I updated the RAW libraries, so they should work much better.  They seem to.  If you've had issues with your RAW file type, this will <br />
(big news here: X3F format is now supported -- let me know how that works).<br />
<br />
4. I fixed a bug that left a variable uninitialized, so Sagelight (the previous beta) may have crashed on startup for some. <br />
<br />
The file is located in the same place at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight4.2c.Beta.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight4.2c.Beta.exe,</a> It's a 22 Megabyte download. <br />
<br />
Thanks for testing it.  The reports I got back definitely helped out.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/202-new-42-beta-beta-released/</guid>
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		<title>A Bug with opening files from an external browser with Sagelight already running</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/212-a-bug-with-opening-files-from-an-external-browser-with-sagelight-already-running/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I thought this was important enough for its own thread. <br />
<br />
I was able to reproduce the bug where you open an image from an external browser with a running instance of Sagelight, and Sagelight brings up a message saying found the other instance but doesn't want to load the file (I forget the exact text). <br />
<br />
I found the bug.  I think it is happening when Windows has put off the other instance to disk, and it isn't able to report back to in a timely manner that it can accept a file. <br />
<br />
So, here is what I did. <br />
<br />
Now, it will just send out a message to launch Sagelight and let the running instance decide what to do.  This should work -- there's a whole lot of message passing going on between the Sagelight instance the browser launched and the one in memory, and synchronizing those without causing noticeable delays is the hard part. <br />
<br />
In the fix, the loaded Sagelight instance will just pass it along to the first Sagelight instance it finds.  If you're not in the Quick Edit Mode or Pro Quick Edit Mode (you can only load files there), it will tell you that you need to exit that mode, and give you the option to continue loading the file or not -- the file will then load when you exit back to the Quick Edit mode and optionally save your image. <br />
<br />
The reason I mention all of this is because this is just the first set of functions in this regard, so the way this works is actually very temporary.  I will be implementing multiple files into Sagelight fairly soon, so this will change to a tab appearing in Sagelight with the new file in cases where you're already editing a file, and when a current file is in the QE or PQE mode, the new file will appear and the current file will be turned into a tab. <br />
<br />
Anyway, when I get the next release out (tonight sometime), let me know how that all works -- as long as the running instance of Sagelight receives the load message, then it should all work ok. <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Not sure if this is a valid thing to do, but....</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/211-not-sure-if-this-is-a-valid-thing-to-do-but/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob, I was just looking at some of the new masking functions in the latest beta, and I did something that seems to consistently put Sagelight into a permanent spin.  All I did was click on the image to bring up the Color Picker dialog with some of the image masked, then went to the Masking menu item in the top menu and selected Invert Mask.  I know I could have just clicked in the Invert Selection checkbox in the Color Picker, so I didn't really have a good reason for doing it that way.  Anyway, it seems to put Sagelight into a permanent spin, using ~50% of my CPU (although both threads seem active). While the controls and menus still respond to clicks/drags, they don't actually do anything.  So I can't close/exit anything, and the only way out is to kill Sagelight.  The size of the image doesn't seem to make any difference.  Like I say, I don't know if what I did makes any sense, but it probably shouldn't hang Sagelight, either.<br />
<br />
P.S. There is an item in the Masking menu called "Save Save Highlight Mask".  I assume that should only be one "Save".<br />
<br />
P.P.S.  I should also say, nice work on all the new stuff.  I know you get a lot of ideas and problems thrown at you, but hope that you find our collaboration, testing, and feedback useful.  <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/211-not-sure-if-this-is-a-valid-thing-to-do-but/</guid>
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		<title>Photosynth</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/194-photosynth/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[You may be interested in the free 3d pano viewer, Photosynth.  It takes seconds to drag and drop a huge number of pics.  Slight camera movement is no important.  Here's a view of a crag where we climbed a few weeks back:<br />
<a href='http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=4d125132-390c-4526-8c6a-ee6ea4affeb5' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=4d125132-390c-4526-8c6a-ee6ea4affeb5</a><br />
<br />
Pics were jpg's from a pocket camera, with no editing.<br />
<br />
Future potential upgrade of some sort for Sagelight perhaps ?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/194-photosynth/</guid>
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		<title>Web-Based Help vs. On your Computer</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/213-web-based-help-vs-on-your-computer/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
<br />
As I write the help, I see that the help files are going to be very large.  I have only written a few subjects, and it is already 25 Megabytes in size.   This is because I am putting a lot of pictures and graphics into it as I write some more extensive help. <br />
<br />
The help file is clearly going to be in the hundreds of megabytes, and it doesn't make sense to download all of that as a trial or update -- maybe if you've purchased it and want it online or something. <br />
<br />
I'm looking at putting the help on the web.  For small topics, the help would come up inline as it does now.  But for larger topics, it would launch your browser and go to the corresponding Sagelight web page.  <br />
<br />
Any thoughts? <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/213-web-based-help-vs-on-your-computer/</guid>
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		<title>Minor tooltip typo</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/218-minor-tooltip-typo/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[In the Settings dialog, hovering over the "?" icon gives the following tooltip:<br />
<br />
"Show instructions on the setings menu."<br />
<br />
Note the missing "t" in settings.<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/218-minor-tooltip-typo/</guid>
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		<title>Predefined or remembered suffix</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/32-predefined-or-remembered-suffix/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I am wishing only a very small improvement<br />
It would be great, if I can predefine the suffix at SAVE AS or that you remember the last changed suffix<br />
or take _SL instead of _edited.<br />
Standard is _edited, which is to long and unspecific, so that I have to change every picture to _SL<br />
<br />
I have 3 programs to change or optimize my pictures<br />
With Sagelight I take suffix _SL<br />
With DXO I take the suffix _Dnn, where nn is the JPG-Compression<br />
With IDIMAGER I take suffix _IDI<br />
<br />
An Example for my picturenames:<br />
<strong class='bbc'>20110226-0312-Cambodia_Angkor_Thom_D93_SL.jpg </strong><br />
<em class='bbc'>DAY - Number - the place - SW-Tools for optimization (here DXO and after that Sagelight)</em><br />
<br />
Peter]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/32-predefined-or-remembered-suffix/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[Passing image's path name to external browser - needs quotes]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/216-passing-images-path-name-to-external-browser-needs-quotes/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob, for the new option in 4.2 (Part 1), where you pass the path name of the current image to the external browser, I think you need to pass the path name in quotes (").  For Faststone, at least, it appears that if the path name parameter contains spaces, then Faststone won't open in the the correct folder (it parses the parameters, sees that pathname as invalid, and instead opens the default folder).  Enclosing the path name in quotes seems to correct that problem.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/216-passing-images-path-name-to-external-browser-needs-quotes/</guid>
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		<title>Warnings on close of modified image stop displaying</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/141-warnings-on-close-of-modified-image-stop-displaying/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I think I may have seen a reference to this somewhere in the discussions, but can't find it now.  Anyway, I've been meaning to say something about the apparent inconsistency in warning messages when attempting to close an unsaved image after edits have been made to it.  Sometimes I get a warning message, and sometimes I don't. The same is true for closing Sagelight via the "X" in the title bar.  What is especially strange is that I can open an image and do exactly the same changes, apply them, then select to close the file, and one time I will get a warning message about unsaved edits, and the next time it just closes without a warning.  I haven't been able to figure out a specific pattern, other than it seems like sometimes when I launch Sagelight the warning messages continue to behave as expected the whole time I have Sagelight open, and other times the warning messages stop showing up after the first time one is presented (that is, if I subsequently open other image files, I no longer get warning messages when I try to close them).<br />
<br />
As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with which specific edits I do.  While writing this, I just tried launching Sagelight several times in a row, and the warning messages have worked every time.  So I haven't come up with a technique to recreate it.<br />
<br />
This is in the latest release, 4.1.5.3.  Like I said, I think I may have seem something before about this being a known problem, but wanted to bring it up again to see if it was being looked at for the next release.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/141-warnings-on-close-of-modified-image-stop-displaying/</guid>
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		<title>Little Problem with change installation directory</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/221-little-problem-with-change-installation-directory/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I have downloaded the sagelight.exe from your thread "Small update to 4.2 released"<br />
<br />
Then I started the installation 4.2f with <strong class='bbc'>change installation directory</strong> from<br />
<br />
C:&#092;Program Files&#092;19th parallel&#092;Sagelight 4 <br />
to<br />
C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Sagelight&#092;Sagelight 4<br />
<br />
As result I get:<br />
C:&#092;Program Files&#092;Sagelight&#092;Sagelight 4<span style='font-family: Arial Black'><strong class='bbc'>&#092;19th parallel</strong></span>&#092;Sagelight 4<br />
with embedded 19th parallel which I cannot remove or change.<br />
<br />
So it was installed in the new created directory 19th parallel instead of my existing directory SAGELIGHT 4<br />
<br />
Because  it was a new directory I must also enter my registration key. After entering the key, all is working <br />
For me it is ok now, I can live with the added directory 19th parallel.<br />
Peter]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/221-little-problem-with-change-installation-directory/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight 4.2d Beta Released</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/209-sagelight-42d-beta-released/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Sagelight 4.2d Beta Ready</span></span></span><br />
  <br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I am happy to report that there is a  new 4.2 beta version available.   This is different than the previous two releases, as it includes a lot more new functionality than the previous versions, as well as some of the bug fixes with the Bokeh/DOF functions.</span></span></span><br />
  <br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Where to download</span></span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>As usual, you can download it directly into your Sagelight directory (i.e. Programs&#092;19th parallel&#092;Sagelight 4).  Or you can run it from anywhere you want, but you'll have to enter your registration key again. </span></span><br />
 <span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Assuming nothing big comes up, I should have the general version later today or tomorrow. </span></span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>It is at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/SagelightBeta4.2d.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...ghtBeta4.2d.exe</a></span></span></span><br />
  <strong class='bbc'><span class='bbc_underline'>Important note</span></strong><span style='color: #0000ff'>:</span> I just downloaded it and verified it is the right version.  However, it identifies itself as 4.2c.   I will fix that as soon as I can.  You can know it is the <em class='bbc'>right</em> version if it has keys listed under the 'File' menu selection (i.e. Open File, Close File, etc.)<br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>New with this release</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>(I'm just doing an overview here and will do the entire set of notes on the release)</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>1. Bokeh Fixes</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<div class='bbc_indent'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>a. The Bokeh memory management bug has been fixed<br />
</span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>b. I revamped how it renders the blur, so it is faster than it was before. </span></span></span></div> <br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I tested the bokeh on the following systems:</span></span></span> <div class='bbc_indent'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>1. 75MP on Win64 with 4 Gigs of Ram</span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>2. 75MP on Win64 with 2 Gigs of RAM</span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>3. 50MP on Win64 (32-bit ) with 1 Gig of ram. </span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>4. 50MP on Windows XP (2 Gigs of Ram, 1 Processor)</span></span></span></div><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>And it all worked ok. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>2. External Browser Support</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>You can now assign an external browser to be used with Sagelight.  Sagelight is self-aware and will accept files from the external editor without reloading another copy.  It's pretty fast.  You can use 'E' or control-E to launch the external browser.  Set this up in the general settings section.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>3. New Settings</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>a. You can change or remove the "_edited" suffix when saving files. </span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>b. I changed all slider handles to the newer, smaller triangular format.  If you like the old format better, you can set them back here. </span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>c. You can set the external browser to ask for RAW options when passing a RAW file to Sagelight</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>4. Much Faster Loading on Startup</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I have added a lot of graphics and other things to Sagelight, and the startup has become slower than I care for.  Most of it is decompressing all of the individual little graphics and templates.  Now, it works about 5 times faster -- after the first time where it writes it all out to disk in an uncompressed format.  When you first try it, it will take about as long as it does now.  When you use it after that, it will be significantly faster when starting up.   Each new release will have the slower startup at first when it writes out the files, and then be much faster on subsequent launches.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>5. "Reload RAW File with Options"</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>This has been asked for. To keep things simple and quality high, Sagelight defaults to not recovering highlights from your RAW image because when it doesn't need it, the quality is better to not do it.  Sagelight will often tell you (through a graphic or ! button that appears in the lower-left) that this image should be reloaded with the highlight recovery.  Sagelight shows you the areas that are blowing out in the graphic that comes up.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>You can now choose "Reload Raw File with Options" which helps to just reload it very quickly -- especially when you're using an external browser because it isn't always obvious where the file came from (or the path is a mile long). </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>6. RAW ICC Support. </strong></span></span></span><br />
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</strong></span></span></span> <span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>This is now working.  You can load a RAW image with an ICC profile and Sagelight will apply the profile.   You can then save out the image as a jpeg or tiff with or without the profile. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>7. Keyboard Shortcuts</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>These are listed in the various menu items.  Here is a list off the top of my head:</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>O or Ctrl-O -- Open a file. </span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>R or Ctrl-R -- Open a RAW file</span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Control-Shift-R -- Open Raw File With Options</span></span></span><br />
<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>E or Ctrl-E -- Open external browser (set this up in the general settings)</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>A will toggle between the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit Mode.  <strong class='bbc'>Important Note:</strong> the menu system says 'Q', but it is actually <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>'A'</em></strong>  to toggle between the modes..  The Quick Edit Mode is being renamed to the 'Active Edit Mode' and the Pro Quick Edit Mode is being renamed to the "Active Edit Pro" mode (or similar) for various reasons, so 'A' is the actual key to use.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>various other ones like Alt-X to exit, Ctrl-W to close the current image, 'U' for undo brush, 'D' for Dodge and Burn, as well as support for taking and viewing snapshots.  Quite a few more. They are listed to the right in the menu listing. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>8. Other things discussed in previous discussion thread entries. </strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>In addition to the Bokeh/Lens Blur and Fast DOF, there is a lot of new masking support, with the ability to save masks, auto-save, auto-load, new brushes, transparency mode, and a number of fixes and additions to the Undo Brush. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I will be filling this out on the official release.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #a0522d'><strong class='bbc'>9. Part 1 of 2 releases.</strong></span></span></span><br />
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<span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>This release is part 1 of 2 releases.  The next part will include the CLAHE algorithm and will dock the Power Box and Light Blender with tabs in the Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit Modes.  There will also be some general UI improvements, such as the ability for the JPEG to use the last settings automatically as a preference, rather than asking you all the time. </span></span></span><br />
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 <span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>General Release</span></span><br />
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As mentioned above, I expect to have it for general release (so you can just install it) in the next day or so -- as long as no huge bug reports come back.  This is the third beta release, so I am not expecting anything too big!  <br />
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Let me know what you think!<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Small update to 4.2 released</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fixed a couple things in this release (which should now identify itself as 4.2f in the Help-&gt;about menu)<br />
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1. The path being passed to an external browser is now enclosed in quotes. <br />
2. I found a bug where Sagelight wouldn't come to the foreground properly if the window was minimized when a file was passed from an external browser.  It would also show the image as very tiny because it didn't realize it had been minimized that's been fixed.  If you've seen any behavior where Sagelight did not come up after being passed (and successfully receiving) a file, or the image was very small, this is what was happening.  Anyway, its fixed now. <br />
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It can be found in the same place: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight.exe</a> -- remember to make sure your browser doesn't give you what it already has cached (Chrome does this on occasion).<br />
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Anyway, thanks for the bug reports!<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/225-if-you-received-an-unable-to-deliver-mail-message-in-the-last-3-days/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, everyone.<br />
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I just thought I'd write a note about some temporary e-mail problems in the last few days, just in case you might have received an "Undeliverable mail" notice. <br />
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I switched ISPs to find out the new ISP shuts off port 25.  I found a workaround and change the port on the server.  But, I didn't think about how it would affect inbound mail (I was being prevented from sending mail). <br />
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After 3 days, I noticed the only mail I received was generated by the server itself and that no outside mail was coming in!<br />
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That's fixed now.  Most e-mail servers try for at least 5 days to send mail, so no mail should be lost -- I already have received a number of e-mails resent by various servers. <br />
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If you have any trouble or don't think an e-mail you may have sent went through, please feel free to send it again <br />
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Also, if you've bought Sagelight in the last few days and haven't received a confirmation/registration e-mail, please let me know.  I checked the Paypal records and everything checks out.  But, if for any reason you haven't received an expected registration e-mail, this would probably be the issue (Paypal notifies by e-mail and the Sagelight e-mail server doesn't know about purchases until this e-mail is received). <br />
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Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it since it confused me for a couple days util I realized what had happened. <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight 4.2f Browser Problem</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/222-sagelight-42f-browser-problem/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
I installed Sagelight v4.2f and FastStone Image Viewer 4.6, defined the external browser path in SL General Settings as FSViewer.exe and defined the external editor in FSV as Sagelight.exe.  With no image open in SL, pressing the 'E' key in SL opens FSV properly.  When I select the image in FSV and click E, a dialog box displays:  "There is already an instance of Sagelight Image Editor in Memory. You should switch to that running instance to avoid problems."  If I click OK, then another instance of Sagelight starts up, which is not how I thought it was intended to work.  I noticed that earlier posts on the board had reported the problem, but it had appeared to be fixed.<br />
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The system is running Windows 7, 64 bit, with 8 GB of memory.  The processor is an AMD quad core processor.<br />
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Just to see if this problem was isolated to just my workstation, I also installed SL and FSV on a notebook running Windows 7, 64 bit, with an Intel quad core.  The same dialog box displayed with the "...already an instance..." message.<br />
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An additional piece of information is that when I un-check the "External Browser is Self-Aware" in the SL General Settings and click "E" without FSV running, a dialog displays: "The program FSViewer.exe is already in memory".  Just to verify, I checked Task Manager and there were no processes related to FSViewer.<br />
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Can you tell me if I am setting something up incorrectly or is this a problem with Win7 x64 and SL browser support?<br />
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Thanks so much,<br />
Ron]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: A Great example of 48-Bit Editing vs. 24-Bit Editing</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/223-sagelight-blog-a-great-example-of-48-bit-editing-vs-24-bit-editing/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/org.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/org_thumb.jpg?w=436&#038;h=385' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Introduction</span> </strong><br />
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48-bit editing (16-bits per-channel) is important, and many editors these days support it. Sagelight, for example, is called ‘Sagelight 48-bit Image Editor’ because it really is that important. <br />
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In creating the Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast Depth of Field functions for version 4.2 (just released.  You can find it <a href='http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/215-sagelight-42-officially-released-available-for-general-download/' class='bbc_url' title=''>here</a>), I came across a great example of the difference between editing an image in 16-bits per-channel, as well as saving an image at the same depth level.  <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>An important note</span></strong><br />
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Before I go too far, I do want to point out that it is only important at certain points.  If you’ve read much of the Sagelight Blog, you’ll know that I also talk quite a bit about how saving in Jpeg and then performing edits can certainly be fine as well. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Editing in 16-Bits per-channel vs. Saving at 8-bits per-channel</span></strong><br />
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It’s important to note that when you load an image into Sagelight, even if it is 8-bits per-channel, it is immediately converted to 16-bits per-channel and, by far, most operations are actually performed at 32-bits (floating-point) per-channel, and sometimes at 64-bits per-channel.<br />
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This is important because it allows you save out at 8-bits per-channel (i.e. Jpeg, though I would recommend the highest quality settings (9 or 10)) with the option to edit the image again without too much degradation of the image as a whole. <br />
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Even though it is better to save out at 16-bits per-channel (and without lossy compression), this can be a little less easy than just saving out a jpeg. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>  </strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Saving at 16-bits per-channel</span></strong><br />
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As mentioned, this is technically the best option, but, for the record, I only do this with images I intend to keep working on creatively later on.  <br />
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If an image is fairly close to what I’m looking for, then I will probably save it as a Jpeg for convenience.  Minor edits after that, such as adding color, some sharpness (*see the examples below, however), a little light, contrast, shadows, etc. – aren’t going to hurt your picture. <br />
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It’s really only in the initial and medium-level stages of an image where 16-bits per-channel can be important, and only under certain circumstances. <br />
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The trouble is, of course, that you don’t know when those circumstances are going to come up, so it’s better to work in 16-bits from the start. <br />
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It’s also important to note that the need to work in 16-bits per-channel often comes from the editing process itself, so starting with 8-bits per-channel isn’t necessarily a bad thing, as long as the main part of the editing process is in 16-bits per-channel. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>The Main Example</span></strong><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>It’s Not the Current Edit, but the Next One Where You See the Difference</span></strong><br />
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It’s always been a little hard to find a good example for why 16-bits is important. Banding in the sky is a good example, but that can come with 16-bit editing, too, under certain circumstances.<br />
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Plus, one of the main issues with editing in 16-bits per-channel is that yiou don’t see the quality difference until the next edit, or the one after that.  As you add color, sharpness, contrast, and use one of any number functions, this separates the color pixels from each other.  With only 256 colors (at 8-bits) per-channel, this can quickly cause the pixels of each channel to ‘clump’ together. <br />
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This <em class='bbc'>pixel clumping </em>also happens at 16-bits per-channel, but at 256 times the resolution of 8-bits per-channel, you rarely encounter problems with it.  However, this is why Sagelight works mostly at 32-bits internally to keep the quality at basically 16 million times the quality of 8-bits per-channel.  <br />
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Again, editing in 8-bits per-channel is “<em class='bbc'>ok”, </em>and in minor editing situations, you don’t have to worry about it much.  But, let’s look at the examples:<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Blurring an Image</span></strong><br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/new_thumb.jpg?w=479&#038;h=425' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>Original Image Blurred with Sagelight Bokeh/Lens Blur</span></span><br />
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Let’s say we want to take the above example and add a blur to it by using the Bokeh/Lens Blur function in Sagelight.   In the above image, you can see that I added some blur and some highlights to the original image. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The Quality of Sagelight Bokeh (yep, a plug)</span></strong><br />
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Sagelight Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast DOF works at a very high quality and in the testing phase multiple sharpens were performed to test the integrity of the blur.  To see how Sagelight was doing against the other Bokeh products out there, I ended up looking at other retail packages.  I came across one with an 8-bit per-channel output and realized I had a great example of 8-bit vs. 16-bit editing. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>A Closeup</span></strong><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/closeup_thumb.jpg?w=536&#038;h=415' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #f79646'>Closeup of the Bokeh Result Image</span></span><br />
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The above is a 100% closeup of the Bokeh Blur.   If I convert this image to 8-bits, here is what is hiding just beneath the surface:<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise2.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise2_thumb.jpg?w=539&#038;h=419' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #f79646'>8-Bit per-Channel Image (sharpened)</span></span><br />
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The above is the image sharpened at 8-bits per-channel.  Let’s look at it closer:<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/org-closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/org-closeup_thumb.jpg?w=418&#038;h=588' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>Blurred Image, Untouched</span></span><br />
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The above image is the blurred image that has not been touched since the Bokeh Blur was applied.  In 8-bits or 16-bits per-channel, it looks fine.  But, as I mentioned, it’s the next edit where you start to see it. <br />
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Let’s say I decided to sharpen the entire image to bring out the center.  Here is what the image looks like if it is in 8-bits per-channel<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise1-closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise1-closeup_thumb.jpg?w=416&#038;h=581' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>8-Bit Image, Sharpened</span></span><br />
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As you can see, just below the surface of the nice, clean looking image can be quite a mess. This was a medium-level sharpen. <br />
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Let’s look at what happens if I apply the same amount of sharpening in 16-bits per-channel<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sharp16_1-closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sharp16_1-closeup_thumb.jpg?w=417&#038;h=584' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>16-bit per-channel image, sharpened. </span></span><br />
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As you can see, there are no lines and no defects!  (anything you may see is from the 8-big jpeg compression for the blog).<br />
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Let’s sharpen the 8-bit image again:<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise2-closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/noise2-closeup_thumb.jpg?w=415&#038;h=583' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>8-Bit per-Channel Image, Sharpened (pass 2)</span></span><br />
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Ouch!  You can see how certain things can really bring out the limitations of editing in 8-bits per-channel.<br />
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Let’s look at the 16-bit per-channel image, sharpened in the same way:<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sharp16_2-closeup.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sharp16_2-closeup_thumb.jpg?w=416&#038;h=583' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><span style='color: #f79646'>16-bit per-channel Image, Sharpened twice. </span></span><br />
<span style='color: #0000ff'>Now, that’s a <em class='bbc'><span class='bbc_underline'>textbook</span></em> picture!</span>  As you can see, there are still no lines or edges even after being sharpened twice.  Now, to brag a little about about Sagelight here – this was done with a shaped, lens blur.  Not all Bokeh packages are this clean. <br />
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The little lines and things you see is a result of the unsharp mask bringing out the natural texture in the image.  That is, it’s actually sharpening it without bringing any edges or artifacts.  You can even see the shape of the kernel I used (octagon) even though I had it set for a very soft focus. <br />
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By contrast, the 8-bit image sharpened twice still looks like the same blur image with a lot of noise piled on top of it. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Conclusion</span></strong><br />
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As you can see from the above examples, it really doesn’t take too much to hit the limitations of 8-bit per-channel editing, and the Bokeh, Lens Blur functions in Sagelight ended up providing a great opportunity to show it in action. <br />
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On the other hand, I do want to repeat that minor edits and simple editing in 8-bits is just fine, as long as you save at high (or maximum) settings with Jpeg.  I do this all the time.<br />
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We’re really only talking about saving images and re-loading them (or initially loading them) in 8-bits per-channel, since Sagelight stores and works with your image in at least 16-bits per-channel at all times.  The 8-bit per-channel process happens when you save as a JPEG or BMP, or initially load your image as a Jpeg.<br />
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<span style='color: #0000ff'>I only really turn to 16-bits per-channel as a practice when:</span><br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>a) I know I am going to creatively edit the image more, or I am not sure if I am done with it.</li><li><img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> I have fine gradients, such as a sky, or smooth areas such as the above blur.</li></ul><span style='color: #0000ff'>I use Jpeg or 8-bit per-channel images (that is, saved on disk; it’s always 16-bits per-channel in Sagelight) when:</span><br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>a) Most of the time, because not only are all the edits in Sagelight at 16-bits per-channel, so I really am editing in 16-bits, but also because I do the major core work on the image in one session.</li><li><img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> When I want to edit something just for looks, or to tweak it.  But, this sometimes incurs a penalty.  I do have to understand that sometimes I will cause banding.  But, I can handle that, typically with the Median or Image Smooth function and the Undo brush.</li><li>c) Cloning, Dodging and Burning, effects – typically not necessary to use 16-bits per-channel, even though 16-bits per-channel, as a practice, can be better.</li></ul><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>So why did I write this article if I’m really saying it doesn’t matter <em class='bbc'>that</em> much?</span></strong><br />
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Because when it does matter, it matters.  However, one of the things I don’t want to do as the author of Sagelight is to tell you what to do, or to make editing more difficult.  Sagelight is a very pure editor, and contains many purist tools.  I want you to be able to edit at the highest degree possible.<br />
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<em class='bbc'>However, I am not a purist about my personal image editing and most people aren’t.  I want to keep editing simple and fun, for people who use Sagelight, which includes myself. </em><br />
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About 85% of the time, most editing – again, since it’s all in 16-, 32, or 64- bits per-channel in Sagelight, as opposed to an editor that only operates in 8- or 16-bit space – isn’t really going to involve issues such as seen above.  But, sometimes they do. <br />
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So, I guess my main message is really informational. As you progress in image editing and you see lines, edges, and things of that nature.  Thinking about where either using RAW or saving a file you’ve re-edited in 16-bits per-channel may be a good thing.  <br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Old version of Sagelight still a favorite on Gizmo's Freeware]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/228-old-version-of-sagelight-still-a-favorite-on-gizmos-freeware/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob, in case you weren't aware of this, Gizmo's Freeware still lists "Lightbox" (the old 2.0 version of Sagelight) as their favorite free image editor.  Going to give them a reason to love Sagelight even more?   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> <br />
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<a href='http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-digital-editor.htm' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-digital-editor.htm</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today my stupid question is - is there a polarizing filter in Sagelight 4.2. Or can somebody tell me how to fake the results. Thank You</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Problem with window state at startup</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/231-problem-with-window-state-at-startup/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[It seems like I've reported this before, but it was quite some time ago and likely on the old (now defunct) forum...<br />
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Anyway, each time I start up SL, it opens with the window not in a maximized state.  While the window is basically full-screen sized, it's not maximized and it's positioned with the top-right corner slightly off-screen as shown below:<br />
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That's the upper-right corner of my screen after opening SL.  Notice that the corner is slightly clipped and the window decoration indicates that it's currently in windowed mode as opposed to being maximized.<br />
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Here's what the same corner looks like after I manually maximize the window:<br />
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Regardless of the window state when I close SL, it always starts up in windowed mode with the slightly off-screen position.  Does anyone else see this?<br />
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32-bit Win 7.<br />
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Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Interactive Quick Reference Help</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/233-sagelight-blog-interactive-quick-reference-help/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Every once in a while, I get a reminder of just how many functions and controls Sagelight really has. <br />
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I have been slowly writing more and more help for Sagelight to outline more of what it does and to explain some of the things that might go unnoticed. <br />
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There are quite a few controls that take up a small amount of space that can make quite a difference.  The little button called the &#8220;Neutralize Image Button” (in the Quick Edit Mode, just above the Color Spinner) is a good example of just such a button that takes up very little space, but can make a big difference in your image – the Color Spinner itself is another good example. <br />
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I’ve been working on more help, located at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb</a>, which will help explain some of the powerful features of Sagelight, as well as better-document the controls.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Interactive Quick Reference Help</span></strong><br />
I’ve been really getting into the interactive quick reference charts lately, and am finding that they are very useful.  You can just put the mouse over the button number, which gives the control name, and the short-form documentation for that control comes up. <br />
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Here is an example:<br />
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The above is the Quick Edit Mode (basic controls). <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>A list of the ones just added</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=QEQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Quick Edit Mode.</span></a> This will describe all of the controls in the Quick Edit Mode in the basic mode. There are 40+ controls described.<br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=BokehQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Bokeh & Lens Blur</span></a>. This describes all Bokeh & Lens Blur controls.  There are about 45 controls described.<br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=AutoBalanceQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Auto Balance Function.</span></a> This describes the Auto Balance controls in both the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit Mode.  The algorithms are the same, but there are some behavioral differences between the two modes (in short, the Pro Quick Edit Mode version is better).<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>High pass filter tutorial?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/235-high-pass-filter-tutorial/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
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I still don't know how to use the High Pass filter function. Can you guide me through?<br />
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Thanks<br />
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Tommy]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Video Tutorial, Sagelight Pro Series: Curves in the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit Mode.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-family: Helvetica Neue'><span style='color: #333333'> </span></span></span><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://youtube.com/v/G7d8bMYkVpI"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://youtube.com/v/G7d8bMYkVpI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
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</span><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Sagelight Pro Series: Curves in the Quick Edit and Pro quick Edit Mode</span> <br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-family: Helvetica Neue'><span style='color: #333333'> </span></span></span><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Introduction</span></strong><br />
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This is part of a series I am working on to show the more advanced, professional-level qualities of Sagelight. <br />
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The curves, at first, may seem like they aren’t necessarily for everyone.  But, they can be very useful even if they might seem intimidating, as a lot of traditional image-editing concepts and functions tend do that.  I know that it took me a long time to really understand what was going on with curves. <br />
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Perhaps that’s why I spent so much time designing and writing the Curves function in Sagelight, as there are many innovations in the Sagelight curves to make them much easier to use.  You can watch this video to get an idea of this, and you can also see the other videos I have posted regarding the curves. <br />
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The fact that I posted a number of videos on the Curves shows a couple things.   For one, how useful they can be in enhancing your image.  Two, it also shows that they do take a little getting used to. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Background on the Curves in Sagelight</span></strong><br />
<span style='color: #c0504d'>Old-School Curves vs. New Technology in Curves</span><br />
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Curves are a traditional part of image-editing.  As I wrote Sagelight, I realized that, though curves are very, very useful in the editing process today, they have also become old-school technology, and have been relegated to simple and less-than-elegant toning.<br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'>Enter Sagelight</span><br />
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As I researched the curves issue, I realized I wanted to put them in.  I had considered them too old-school to be useful in Sagelight.  Then I ran across a plug-in called Smart Curves.  I used to distribute this with Sagelight (it’s a free plug-in).  After using the Smart Curves plugin for a while, I realized that curves had a definite place in Sagelight, but only if they were incredibly enhanced to make use of modern approaches in image-editing and to fit into the overall editing process. <br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'>Power Curves</span><br />
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The Power Curves is just such an example.  One of the reasons why the Smart Curves Plugin convinced me of the usefulness of curves in editing today is because it supported the LCH mode.  This is a powerful editing mode in the curves that can do amazing things with your image.  I know I discuss this in various videos, and intend to do a video just on using curves in the LCH mode, as well as the HSL and other modes. <br />
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In traditional Sagelight style, I don’t like providing a lot of singleton functions, because there tend to be natural things you want to do.  For example, I provide a set of saturation and other controls with a number of functions, such as the vignetting, Tone Blender, Bokeh, etc;, because that’s a natural thing you want to do. <br />
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The curves were no different.  One of the things that you want to do immediately (and while) using curves is to adjust how the color is changing. <br />
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The Power Curves in Sagelight has a Chroma channel on the RGB (using Sagelight-developed RGB saturation, which is a very deep saturation, as well as the basis for Sagelight Vibrance) and other modes where normally you wouldn’t see it. <br />
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The Chroma Channel, added as a separate curve channel, by itself, as well as in conjunction with the other modes and color spaces in the Power Curves, transforms the old-school curves into something that much more useful to today’s image editing. <br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'>General Curves Interface</span><br />
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One of the other places I identified problems with using curves with today’s image editing, and where they had become old-school, in my opinion, we the interface.  I really didn’t like having to select one curve after another by moving away from what I was doing, pressing a channel button – or wose, select the channel from a drop-down menu – to get to a different channel. This caused me to lose focus and made the entire curves process more cumbersome. <br />
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A lot of time and design went into creating a curves interface where you can very rapidly switch back-and-forth between curves channels, simply by grabbing the displaying non-active channel and moving it – most of the work was in making sure the Curves Window understood what you wanted to do, since these curves can be very close to each other. <br />
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This also made the process that much easier, as it allows you to change curves without losing your creative focus – you can just play and experiment, which is the basis for how Sagelight tends to work.   The ability to be unintentional also helps you when you have a plan, as it makes the controls work that much more fluidly. <br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'>Fine Curve Adjustments</span><br />
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Another place where the curves technology was extended vs. traditional curves levels was in the fine-tuning.  This is particularly useful in the Light Blender, but is useful overall.<br />
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You can use the keyboard arrows and the mousewheel to finely adjust the curves points.  Since a lot of curves work is about subtlety, you can adjust the points with a high-degree of accuracy without the traditional method where you had to grab the point again, lose your focus, and replace the point without having the context of what it looked like before. <br />
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You can also hold the control-key down to make an even finer adjustment. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Curves in the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit Mode</span></strong><br />
The Curves in the Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit Modes provide a powerful set of curves functionality.  While the Power Curves provide a wider array and more powerful set of standalone curves functions, the curves in the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit mode have many embedded functions that are designed to work directly with the other controls of the Quick Edit Mode.<br />
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There are also a number of functions within the Curves in the Quick Edit/Pro Quick Edit modes designed specifically for these modes that are not in the Power Curves.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>General Help and Video Sections</span></strong><br />
The video above is split into different sections.  You can click on the links below to go directly to that section.  You can also go to the general help section on <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=QECurves' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>“<em class='bbc'>Curves in the Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit Modes</em></a>” for a recap of this blog entry (it’s basically a copy of the help section), later on when the different sections may be more relevant. <br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d8bMYkVpI#t=1m9s' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Basic Controls</a>. This shows how to easily use the basic controls of the Curves Window, which are the same throughout sagelight.  After that, things get different, as dicussed in the following sections.</li><li>Color Toning. This section shows how to use the Curves in the Quick Edit Mode for color toning your image, and how the Curves algorithms help integrate into the Quick Edit mode by keeping the luminance the same throughout the toning.</li><li><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d8bMYkVpI#t=3m46s' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Correcting Color Casts</a>. This section shows how to use the embedded curves functions to correct color casts in the same way you would with the “Remove Color Cast” function, but with more control since you can change the resulting curves yourself.</li><li><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d8bMYkVpI#t=5m19s' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Auto Levels and Auto Color</a>.  This shows how to perform the same Auto Balance functions used in the Sagelight functions, but with more control over the result.</li><li><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d8bMYkVpI#t=6m58s' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Pro Quick Edit Mode and C*I*E LAB and HSL Color Spaces Color</a>.  This shows how the Pro Quick Edit mode curves can be used in the C*I*E LAB and HSL modes.  Similar to the Power Curves, but you can use the other controls in the Pro Quick Edit mode together with the curves in these color spaces.</li></ul><br />
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he Curves in the Quick Edit/Pro Quick Edit modes have the same basic interface as the curves eslewhere in Sagelight (see the Quick Reference section below), which contains an advanced, easy-to-use architecture that allows for much easier curves than tradtional methods, while also providing a large amount of power.<br />
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The traditional problem with curves is that they can be difficult to use, which can interrupt the creative flow.  Sagelight curves offer easy background curve selection, fine-tuning using the keyboard and mouse wheel, as well as the ability to easily switch to different color spaces.<br />
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In the Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit modes, Luminance-keeping functions allow the color curves to be used as color toning curves, which is a powerful tool, as this allows you to adjust the results of the other controls used, rather than completely changing the light and tonal changes already made.  You can also switch this off to use the curves as normal curves.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Remove Color Cast and Auto Balance Functions in the Curves Window</span></strong><br />
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In some ways curves can be limiting.  For example, the RGB Adjust tools in the Quick Edit Mode/Pro Quick Edit Mode offer essentially a minimum of 10 simultaneous curves windows open at the same time.  The Curves Window, by comparison, provides one curve for each RGB channel + the RGB channels together.<br />
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However, curves give you much more direct control, allowing you to manipulate curves in a way not possible with the RGB adjust controls.  You can use the Options Window to perform the same functions as the Remove Color Cast and Auto Balance functions. The results are then displayed as curve points which you can directly manipulate.  This can provide more flexibility and power to adjust the results, where the Remove Color Cast and Auto Balance functions, while powerful, provide you with a more limited set of results.<br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=QECurvesQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/qecurves-quickrefchart.jpg?w=316&h=409' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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Another question form me again. Can you guide me how to remove or correct chromatic aberrations in Sagelight? I am also consider half amateur astrophotographer, so sometimes I will be facing colored halos around the bright stars. Any ways to get rid of them?<br />
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/18-sagelight-manual-topics-that-users-would-like-to-see/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There was a discussion in the Facebook discussion boards about the types of topics that people would like to see in the manual, and it seems like there should be a specific thread here to continue the discussion.  Several people stated that besides describing the functionality, it would be nice to have some task-oriented ("how to") topics, which maybe describe "the best way" (or at least, some techniques that work well) to accomplish a particular goal.  So to give a few examples, I think about some of the standard things I tend to do when enhancing a photo, and they include some of the following:<br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li>Shadow and Highlight recovery in high-contrast photos<br /></li><li>Sharpening and/or local contrast enhancement to heighten detail (but hopefully without adding noise)<br /></li><li>Color balancing, especially since digital photos often look a little "blue" to me<br /></li><li>Recovering color in washed-out areas (sky, faces in sunlight, burned areas due to flash, etc.)<br /></li><li>Remove/reduce noise in low-light/high-ISO photos<br /></li><li>Color/contrast correction for photos taken through windows, screens, etc. (Yeah, not the best way to take a photo, but it happens)<br /></li><li>Bring out certain colors (but hopefully without blowing out others)<br /></li><li>Touch up/remove unwanted objects from the photo<br /></li><li>Make lighting more "dramatic", but without making it look too unrealistic</li></ul><br />
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So that's just the list off the top of my head.  I have found that Sagelight lets me do some of these things more easily (and consistently) than in other photo editors, but I'm still not sure <strong class='bbc'>why</strong>, and that means I don't know if I'm doing it in the most effective way.<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/246-wysiwygrte-editing-reminder/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to mention again that this discussion board has a WYSIWYG, Rich-Text editor.  Unfortunately, it defaults to BBCode, where you have to enter '[ b]some text[/b]<strong class='bbc'>'</strong> to get bold and '[ size=5]<span style='font-size: 13px;'>to raise the font size</span>'[/size], which can be a little cumbersome. <br />
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You can set the Rich-Text editor to on, which will then allow you to use editing controls, such as clicking a button <strong class='bbc'>for bold text</strong> (or, as I did here, press control-B), or select a <span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #800080'>larger font size and color</span></span><span style='font-size: 13px;'> as easily as you can in Word or other editors. </span><br />
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<span style='font-size: 13px;'>To set the Rich-Text/WYSIWYG editor to ON, do the following: </span><br />
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<span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'>1. Click on your name in the upper-right part of the screen.</strong></span><br />
<span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'>2. Select 'My Settings'</strong></span><br />
<span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'>3. On that page, under 'Post Settings', click 'Enable Visual (RTE) Editor'</strong></span></div><br />
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<span style='font-size: 13px;'>Why the producers of this discussion board decided to obscure it so, I have no idea.   Hopefully some version in the future will default to it.  Until then, just follow the steps above to turn it on so you don't have to use BBcode to change text characteristics, indenting, etc. </span><br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob,  I've tried re-creating this strange thing that happened, and unfortunately have been unable to, but I thought I would describe it in case it gave you any ideas.  I was in the Pro-&gt;Fast Depth of Field function, blurring the foreground/background areas of an image.  I had zoomed in to 100% to look at some detail, and I wanted to compare the before/after, so I selected the vertical split screen function on the bottom right to show the current/original comparison.  At some point while playing with the blur options, zooming in and out, and turning the split screen on and off, when I went back to the current-only view, the split was still there (as in, I should have been looking at the working image, but it had a vertical line down the center, with one side blurred and the other not).  Turning vertical split screen on and off had no effect.  Turning horizontal split screen on and off showed the original on top and a vertically split image on the bottom half.  So I cancelled out of Fast Depth of Field, but the image was still split vertically and blurred on one side.  Because I hadn't done any other operations, there was nothing to Undo.  A close and reopen brought the original image back.<br />
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So essentially, it looks like Sagelight got confused somehow during that process, and the split view image got "grabbed" in place of the working image.  Like I say, I haven't been able to recreate it, but perhaps it was timing sensitive.  Anyway, I'll keep trying and maybe you can think about how that might have happened.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Sagelight Blog: Introduction to Sagelight Bokeh &#38; Lens Blur Video #2: Showing the Highlight Mask and More Creative Elements]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/249-sagelight-blog-introduction-to-sagelight-bokeh-lens-blur-video-2-showing-the-highlight-mask-and-more-creative-elements/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span class='bbc_center'> </span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://youtube.com/v/fepIO8yhtGs"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://youtube.com/v/fepIO8yhtGs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object></span></span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Sagelight Bokeh Introduction 2</span> </span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fepIO8yhtGs' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>(click here to see the video on YouTube in HD)</a></span></span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Introduction</span></strong><br />
This is another video introduction to the Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast Depth of Field features in Sagelight Image Editor. <br />
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Where the first video focused on creating a blur area and using a mask, this video shows using the Highlight Mask and explores some of the more creative aspects of using the Sagelight Bokeh/Lens Blur function. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Photographic Authenticity vs. Freestyle & Artistic Bokeh/Lens Blur</span></strong><br />
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It should be noted that the Bokeh/Lens Blur functions are very powerful and can do a wide range of effects on your image.  From a photographic perspective this means that you can keep within the realm of what is photographically realistic or go further and perform more artistic effects. <br />
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Both the first video and second video show me doing freestyle sessions with a clear intention of being more artistic.  Since the Bokeh/Lens Blur functions are very high quality, fast, and versatile, you can explore both methods.  You can create on-the-fly or import depth masks for photographic realism, or just go with your artistic sense of an image. <br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Editing the Mask in the Bokeh/Lens Blur</span></span><br />
As with the first introduction video, the image is masked.  Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), the video I recorded of the masking ended up being corrupt and I didn’t get a chance to include it.  On the other hand, it might be just as well because this was shown in the first video, so it saved about 2 minutes on the video anyway. <br />
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The above image is the mask I created while in the Bokeh/Lens Blur.  To repeat my comments in the first video, you can edit the mask on-the-fly very quickly, editing it in a coarse overview, and then refining it as you go and see where it needs to be touched up.<br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Image While Editing the Highlight Mask</span></span><br />
The real star of this video is the Highlight Mask. This is a Sagelight innovation with Bokeh and makes a real difference in your image.  It is also very easy to use the highlight mask. <br />
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As the video explains, a traditional problem with highlights & specular reflections in Bokeh is that only the upper-end highlights look good, and if you have a picture that isn’t nearly epitomical example of a Bokeh picture (streelights, or other lights in the distance in a fairly dark foreground, for example), then the highlights can easily become too white or bright and wash out very quickly. <br />
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In many cases, you really want to capture some of the highlights without having the brighter areas wash out. <br />
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That’s where the Highlight Mask comes in.  You can simply use the Highlight Strength and Highlight Threshold slider, see the highlights you like, dab them with a brush, and then they are ‘frozen’ in place.  Then you can either reset the Highlight Sliders to 0, or find other highlights with different settings. <br />
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The image above shows how it is done (the video shows much more).  You can see where I just really brushed the areas I wanted to keep.  See the video to see it working in action.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>The Results: Photographic, Artistic, and Way Out There</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/original.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/original_thumb.jpg?w=444&h=396' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #0000ff'>The Original Image</span></span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The ‘Photographic’/Natural Result.</span></strong><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-photographic.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-photographic_thumb.jpg?w=454&h=405' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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Again, I’m not really worrying about ultra-realism, but I do want something that looks a little naturally photographic. In the above image, you can see where I blurred the area by the window and slowly extended the blur down the wall to the left.  I also added highlights with the Highlight Mask function.  <br />
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I also added a transparency to her arm, which I thought looked really nice, almost like a motion blur, as if she was moving when the camera took the picture (I did this by using the ‘As Selection Mask’ setting, which blends back the original image based on the mask setting). <br />
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Overall, it has a natural look with some really nice colorful highlights.  I was able to get the highlights (and the nice colors) by using the Highlight Mask in combination with the Highlights Strength, Highlights Threshold, and Color Edge Sliders. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The Artistic Result</span></strong><br />
<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-diamonds.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-diamonds_thumb.jpg?w=452&h=404' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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In the video, I then went even further and added some deep contrast and color.  I did this by using the Backlight Slider, increasing the Highlights Strength (by using the Highlight Multiply Slider in the Highlight Mask Area; this slider lets you increase or decrease the highlights you previously masked, such as in the above Highlight Mask Image), and then adding a fair amount of Saturation by using the Add Color (Vignette Only) Slider to add color only to the blurred areas, while leaving the non-blurred areas (i.e. the woman in the picture) untouched.  <br />
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I then changed the aperture shape to a diamond, for effect.  If I were to go back and work on this image, I might add just a splash of color to her face so that she blends in with the rest of the picture just a little but more smoothly (which is what I did in the next picture). <br />
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<span style='color: #c0504d'>The ‘Way Out There’ Result</span><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-artistic.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/final-artistic_thumb.jpg?w=450&h=400' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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One of the other features that Sagelight Bokeh/Lens Blur offers that you really don’t see in other Bokeh packages is a very high radius setting on the Blur Amount Slider.  This allows you to create shapes that are very large. <br />
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There’s a lot of effects you can do with such large settings, and in this case, I just decided to simply go for an effect. <br />
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Obviously not photographically realistic, but I thought it came out nice, nevertheless.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Conclusion</span></strong><br />
The Bokeh/Lens Blur Video Introduction #2 video shows both the Highlight Masking and more creative aspects of the Sagelight Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast Depth of Field features new to Sagelight Version 4.2.<br />
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The video demonstrates how to easily use the Highlight Mask to isolate highlights very quickly, creating more photographic and artistic effects than with traditional Bokeh implementations. <br />
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The video also shows how you can use the Sagelight Bokeh/Lens Blur to go even further creatively with the separate Sagelight Saturation/Vibrance Sliders, Backlight Slider, Color Edge, and many other functions that make the Sagelight Bokeh/Lens Blur very versatile and powerful.]]></description>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Sagelight Pro Series: Pro Saturation Function</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/253-sagelight-blog-sagelight-pro-series-pro-saturation-function/</link>
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<span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #666666'>(Image Saturation with Sagelight Saturation)</span></span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Pro Series Articles and Videos</span></strong><br />
This series of articles and videos detail some of the more professional-level, sometimes less-obvious qualities of Sagelight. <br />
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<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>For example, why use the Sagelight Pro Saturation Feature when there are already two methods of saturating your image in the Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit Modes (i.e. the Saturation and the Power Box Vibrance)? </span></em><br />
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The answer is that the Sagelight Pro Saturation functions provide just that – a set of professional-level saturation functions that encompass some traditional methods (such as <span style='color: #c0504d'><em class='bbc'>XYZ</em>, <em class='bbc'>C*I*E LAB,</em> <em class='bbc'>Hunter LAB</em></span>), as well as Sagelight-developed methods created specifically to answer problems with saturation. <br />
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The article below is more verbose than most Sagelight articles.  It’s a combination of an introduction to the Pro Saturation feature and an outline detailing why such high-level functions exist in Sagelight. <br />
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At the end of the article, the idea is to have an understanding of the very high-level nature of Sagelight, how it is used internally (i.e. much of the technology in the Pro Saturation function is used elsewhere in Sagelight automatically), as well as how the Sagelight engine takes image processing at a very serious level.  By providing the Sagelight Pro Saturation function, this gives you access to the Sagelight engine functions, without it getting in your way of the normal, easy editing process elsewhere in Sagelight. <br />
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<span style='color: #ffffff'>note</span>: for before & after image examples and a more detailed description of the science behind Sagelight Saturation and Vibrance methods, see these two articles:<br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=TechSaturation' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Click here for more information Sagelight Saturation Technology</span></a><br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=TechVibrance' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Click here for more information Sagelight Vibrance Technology</span></a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Introduction</span></strong><br />
As it turns out, the subject and concept of Saturation (and Vibrance) is both more subjective and technically challenging than just about any other traditional, mainline image processing feature. <br />
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There are many different types and color spaces and algorithms that can be used to add color to your image.  They&#8217;re all different, and most editors provide just one type of saturation. <br />
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Sagelight offers 8-10 saturation algorithms in the Pro Saturation Feature, and uses various saturation models automatically elsewhere in Sagelight, depending on the needs of the particular function.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>The Problems and Challenges with Adding Color to Your Image</span></strong><br />
The reason the Sagelight Pro Saturation function exists, as well as providing many saturation models, is because of the technical problems and subjectivity involved in adding color to your image. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Saturation is a Challenging Technical Process</span></strong><br />
Saturation models, from an algorithmic and mathematical standpoint, can be very complex, especially when you want them to work in realtime.  All traditional methods of saturation have problems:<br />
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<span style='color: #9b00d3'><strong class='bbc'>Noise</strong>.</span>  One of the biggest problem with many saturation methods is that they can add noise.  For example, <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>HSL saturation</span></em> is the most color-faithful of the saturation methods, maintaining the same basic hue as you add color to your image.  However, it can also add a large amount of noise to your image as well as turn many colors into a neon-like brightness compared to other colors in your image.  Sometimes this looks nice on a random image, but it is technically incorrect and can lead to unrealistic-looking results. <br />
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Other saturation methods can cause more noise than others.  Sagelight&#8217;s saturation algorithms were designed to keep the noise at a minimum, as when noise occurs while saturating, defined speckles and color edges can appear in your image. <br />
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<ul class='bbc'><li><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #9b00d3'>Jpegs and Noise</span></strong>.  In many cases, the noise caused by adding color is exacerbated when an image starts as a JPEG.  In some ways, the noise issue with adding color is inherited by the technology we now use to compress images. Noise when adding color also occurs in non-Jpeg (i.e. RAW, .TIFF images never saved as a JPEG image), but it shows much faster and stronger with JPEG images.</li><li>This is one of the reasons why Sagelight saturation algorithms (<span style='color: #c0504d'><em class='bbc'>Sagelight Saturation, </em><em class='bbc'>True</em> <em class='bbc'>Color</em></span>, and <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Hybrid</span></em>) were developed, because editing with an image saved as a JPEG can be much easier than starting with the RAW.  While starting with a RAW image from your camera is technically more precise and much less susceptible to edges, speckling, and other problems associated with adding color and elsewhere in the editing process, it can also be much more cumbersome and difficult, since you have to deal with a number of elements the camera performs automatically (such as color balance, sharpening, light adjustments, etc.).</li><li>Sagelight has extensive RAW functionality, but doesn&#8217;t take an opinion on editing with RAW or JPEG, as both have their advantages.   However, if you see noticeable block-shaped edges in your image while adding color, this is probably due to the JPEG compression.  When this happens, try different saturation modes to remove it.</li></ul><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #9b00d3'>Color Fidelity</span></strong>. Most saturation methods will start to change some of the colors in your image as you add saturation. For example, XYZ-based saturation can tend to move your image to the warm and yellowish tones, and skies can turn into an undesirable CYAN with XYZ, or C*I*E LAB saturation.   This can be a problem if it happens with every image, because your images can start to take on the same &#8216;look&#8217; from image to image.   <br />
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<span style='color: #0080ff'>If this is such a problem, why does Sagelight offer XYZ and C*I*E LAB saturation?  </span><br />
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The reason many different saturation methods, including XYZ and C*I*E LAB saturation is offered is because, for as much as these methods can change colors in your image, they can also provide very nice toning effects on your image.  Sometimes, the &#8216;technically right&#8217; color is not the most desirable.  Many images look nicer with a warming effect, and the XYZ and C*I*E LAB (or other) saturation methods can look visually nicer, as they also tend to deepen the colors in your image, even when not technically correct. <br />
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<span style='color: #9b00d3'><strong class='bbc'>Light Fidelity</strong>.</span> Many saturation methods will also change the light value of areas of your image, depending on the color.  For example, you may have noticed with some editors (or traditional Sagelight saturation modes) that greens tend to brighten.  This happens with other colors, as well.	As with the Color Fidelity issue, this can sometimes make your image look nice, but can also go the other way and make your image look unrealistic.<br />
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<span style='color: #9b00d3'><strong class='bbc'>Color Overruns (blowouts).</strong></span>  In just about all saturation methods, bright colors (such as red) can overrun and become flat, causing your image to look unrealistic.  Sagelight has a number of controls to help with this problem, and the Sagelight saturation algorithms were written with this issue in mind. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Saturation is Subjective</span></strong><br />
Saturation is also subjective.  I could adjust the saturation on an image with the algorithm that, for me, does the best job in adding color to my image, where someone else would choose another saturation algorithm.  For example, I tend to like images that stay more neutral or &#8216;cool&#8217;, where other people like more warm images.  Where I see an awful yellowish-green underlying hue, someone else may see a nice, colorful, warm and natural image &#8212; and this is from actual experience. <br />
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This is another reason the Pro Saturation exists in Sagelight.   Since saturation methods vary greatly, having multiple methods (which you can switch between easily) allows you to get the look you prefer in your image. <br />
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A good example is the sky.  While some algorithms move the sky to a deep blue, other algorithms will move it more to a cyan.  I tend to think the cyan is ugly, but others may find the sky going deeper blue unrealistic from a photographic perspective.  Choosing between algorithms allows you to control more of how your image is saturated. <br />
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Another reason multiple saturation algorithms are useful is because the same algorithm that might turn the sky that ugly cyan color is the same algorithm that may (and often does) work out better for another picture. <br />
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Since all pictures are different, each saturation method will work differently with each image.  That is to say, while each saturation method has its distinctive qualities, they work differently for each type of photograph. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Getting Used to the Different Saturation Modes</span></strong><br />
Once you get experience with the different saturation modes, you will begin to know which type of saturation is typically better for your image.  For example, I mentioned above that some algorithms tend to move the sky to an ugly cyan (in my subjective experience, that is), while others move it a deeper blue.  I tend to like the deeper blue, so I use those algorithms for the type of picture that needs it. <br />
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Once you&#8217;ve seen the same type of image a few times, it is easy to realize that C*I*E LAB and XYZ, for example, will turn the sky more of a cyan, where the Sagelight saturation methods will turn the sky a deeper blue, as well as which algorithms have the same general effect for other image qualities.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Hybrid Saturation</span></strong><br />
While all of the saturation modes have their strengths, the best overall mode is the Sagelight Hybrid algorithm.  This tends to warm your image and deepen colors simultaneously.   You can also try the Hunter LAB algorithm which works well with most images.  Sagelight&#8217;s Hybrid Saturation tends to offer deeper colors and does not turn your image quite as yellowish or warm as Hunter LAB saturation.<br />
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<span style='color: #9b00d3'>note</span>: when using the Sagelight Hybrid Saturation algorithm, try checking the “<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Keep Luminance</span></em>” checkbox, as this can sometimes work better (i.e. it’s always worth trying).<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Saturation</span></strong><br />
From a technical standpoint, Sagelight Saturation is the best overall saturation.  The reason Sagelight Saturation is second in the list is because, as mentioned above, the most technically correct algorithm isn&#8217;t always the &#8216;perceptual&#8217; best.  For most things, the Sagelight Saturation will work well, which is why it is the default saturation method in the Pro Saturation Controls.<br />
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However, Sagelight&#8217;s Hybrid Saturaiton works in the middle ground and, on an average, is the best &#8216;go to&#8217; saturation method.  Sagelight&#8217;s Hybrid Saturation is the most predominantly-used saturation method in Sagelight in other functions, and is the basis for the Vibrance in the Power Box (Quick Edit or Pro Quick Edit Mode)<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>The Strengths of each Saturation Method</span></strong><br />
Each saturation method has some basic strengths.  For example, Sagelight Saturation works well for deepening the colors in your image and created a well-defined edge between colors that can be a nice result.  C*I*E LAB saturation has a strength in working with skin tones, and the Sagelight Hybrid and Hunter LAB saturation methods have a great warming effect on your image, as does XYZ saturation. <br />
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For more information on the strengths of each saturation methods, go to the <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=ProSaturationQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Pro Saturation Quick Reference</span></a>, and then hover the mouse over the numbered tags for each saturation method; they are described in detail in this section.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Selecting Between Saturation Algorithms</span></strong><br />
It is easy to switch between saturation algorithms.  You can simply select them by clicking the mouse on the Saturation label to the right, and you can also use the mousewheel to move the saturation algorithm up or down. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Masking in the Pro Saturation Controls </span></strong><br />
The Sagelight Pro Saturation feature includes simple, powerful masking.  This will be explored as a separate post and possible a video tutorial. You can also mask with the saturation in the <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Pro Quick Edit mode</span></em>, though the masking in the Pro Saturation controls is more oriented towards quick masking for adding or removing color.<br />
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In short, the masking in the Pro Saturation function provides powerful features to specifically select or avoid areas.  In a lot of cases, adding color to your entire image can look unrealistic.  But, adding color to just one subject or, conversely, avoiding a subject, can make the image look much more realistic while adding color that will make your image vibrant and crisp.<br />
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See the <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=ProSaturationQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Pro Saturation Quick Reference</span></a> for details, which describes the masking in detail (just move the mouse over the numbered tabs for each masking control).<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Saturation Algorithms</span></strong><br />
The following details the Sagelight-developed saturation methods.  Each method was developed to answer specific problems that can occur with traditional saturation methods.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Saturation</span></strong><br />
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Sagelight Saturation was developed specifically for Sagelight and is a very high-level, algorithmically intense saturation. Sagelight saturation works by keeping the color fidelity and luminance fidelity as tight as possible, allowing for deep saturation with little or no noise compared to some other saturation methods. Sagelight saturation is designed to deepen the colors as you add color to your image, as this typically works better for an image. However, you can control this with the &#8220;<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Keep Luminance</span></em>&#8221; switch, which tells Sagelight Saturation to preserve the luminance of the image. <br />
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Sagelight Saturation is also designed to move the colors to their primary colors as you add color to the image.  This allows the colors to deepen.  For example, a blue sky will typically turn to a darker blue instead of a cyan, as the color is moving to the primary blue.  Green plants will move more towards a deeper green than a yellow, and deep orange skies will move towards a deeper orange/red as you add color. <br />
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You can also control this factor with the <span style='color: #c0504d'><em class='bbc'>&#8220;Protect Colors</em>&#8220;</span> switch, which tells Sagelight Saturation to maintain the original HUE, which can prevent deepness, but can also be useful in keeping certain colors from moving to their primaries. <br />
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Sagelight Saturation has many options to help with getting the best color for your image.  See the sections on <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Keep Luminance, Protect Colors, Clamp Colors</span></em>, and the <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>More switch</span></em> next to Clamp Colors. in the Controls Quick Reference<br />
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True Color Saturation is another Sagelight-developed saturation method.  True color is based on <span style='color: #c0504d'><em class='bbc'>HSL saturation</em>,</span> but maintains the light and removes the noise and neon-effect that HSL saturation can often created. <br />
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HSL saturation is notably the most accurate saturation method in terms of color accuracy, but also creates a large amount of noise and light problems with your image. <br />
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Sagelight&#8217;s True Color Saturation increases the saturation in your image with the HSL component, but also maintains the light and color in your image, which prevents the traditional problems with HSL saturation. <br />
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If you wish to use HSL saturation in Sagelight, use the <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Power Curves</span></em> with the <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Chroma channel</span></em> in <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>HSL</span></em> mode.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Hybrid Saturation</span></strong><br />
Sagelight&#8217;s Hybrid Saturation is an intensive saturation that also warms as well as deepens colors. Recognizing that while it&#8217;s technically not accurate, the warming effect that some saturation models (i.e. XYZ, Hunter LAB) have can be very useful to your image, Sagelight&#8217;s Hybrid Saturation was developed to have similar properties of Sagelight Saturation, to protect your image from noise as well as deepen colors while staying truer to the original color &#8216;direction&#8217; (more below). <br />
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In it&#8217;s default mode, Hybrid Saturation deepens the colors of your image while warming it.  In some pictures, the result is similar to <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Hunter LAB</span></em>, and with the &#8220;<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Keep Luminance</span></em>&#8221; button checked, they are even more similar. <br />
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However, Sagelight Hybrid Saturation, like Sagelight Saturation, starts drawing the colors of the image to the primary color, allowing it to deepen and stay much more crisp than Hunter LAB or XYZ saturation as color is added.  This means that skies become deeper blue, and greens become deeper green, where Hunter LAB and XYZ saturation will move the warming more to a central color.  Sagelight Hybrid Saturation allows you to warm your image while simultaneously deepening the colors in your image.<br />
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In most cases, this works out well.  But, it is always worth clicking between the other saturation methods (such as Hunter LAB or Sagelight Saturation) to see the difference. <br />
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<a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/helpfile.php?helpid=ProSaturationQuickRef' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Click here to view the interactive quick reference for the Sagelight Pro Saturation controls.</span></a><br />
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This section explains all of the controls as well as describes each saturation algorithm and their strengths.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Conclusion</span></strong><br />
Adding color to your image is highly subjective.  The images above, for example, may be to your liking or not, depending on what you personally like to see in your picture. <br />
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Adding color to your image is also one of the primary things that can change your image with great effect.<br />
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This is one of the primary reasons the Sagelight Pro Saturation function exists – to give you as many options as possible to add color to your image to get what you want. <br />
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Every saturation algorithm is different and will treat your image differently, depending on its makeup. Most editors use just one algorithm for saturation. <br />
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Sagelight doesn’t take the idea of saturation lightly, giving you access to many different saturation algorithms, so you can use the one that fits your image the best.  The different subjects, and colors in your image can make one saturation algorithm more useful than others. <br />
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Saturation is also a very technically challenging and mathematically intense concept.  As such, it is hard to define one saturation algorithm that is the ‘best’. There are inherent problems with saturation algorithms, which include adding noise, changing color, changing the light value, and color overruns. <br />
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Saturation algorithms developed just for Sagelight (<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Sagelight Saturation, True Color</span></em>, and <em class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Hybrid</span></em>) were designed to specifically work with the problems associated with adding color to your image.  They are designed to reduce noise, keep as much color fidelity as possible, and to deepen the colors in your image (as a default option) to add color to your image that looks as natural as possible.<br />
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Sagelight’s Hybrid saturation is used in most places around Sagelight as the default saturation algorithm, and it has been designed as the best overall saturation to use, in general, as it fits the needs of most images well, by providing a slight warming tone to your image while also deepening colors and staying true to the main colors in your image. <br />
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In general, just adding a little bit of color to your image works out well in the main Quick Edit and Pro Quick Edit modes.  But, if you’re looking to get the most out of adding color and want to explore how you can better control and shape how color is added to your image, then you can use the Sagelight Pro Saturation Function to explore many more options.<br />
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Twice tonight Sagelight crashed on me while I was editing a picture.  Here is the error:<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, everyone.<br />
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I am very pleased to announce that Sagelight 4.2 has been released for general download.  It's still technically a beta version, but only because I will be filling out the documentation over the next few weeks on the blog. <br />
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I have installed new documentation online, which will allow me to bring in the articles right into the help, and it also helps keep the help files up to date. <br />
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Anyway, without further adieu, here are the release notes for version 4.2!   (note: this is part 1 of a 2-part release.  The coming items are listed at the bottom).<br />
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You can also find this reference in HTML format in the main online help file by clicking this link: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb/module_2_1.html?MenuState=ARfDnFVVBQAABcOIAAHvtIc=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Version 4.2 Release Notes</a><br />
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<span class='bbc_underline'>note</span><span style='color: #a0522d'>: the formatting below has become compressed due to the way this discussion board translates the html code from the main release notes on the web (the above link).  I cannot get it to change it (very annoying).  For a cleaner, better-formatted version of the release notes, click the link above.</span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #1322EC'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 21px;'>Sagelight Version 4.2 (Part I) Release Notes</span></strong></span></strong><br />
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</span><span class='bbc_left'>Sagelight Version 4.2 was released on 10-20-2011. It is considered release-ready and stable, and is in beta form while some documentation on the new and changed features are updated.</span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>Version 4.2 will be release in two parts.  Part I is described below, and Part II will be released very soon.</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #0000FF'><span class='bbc_underline'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb/module_5.html?MenuState=AXfDnVVVBQAABcOIAAHvtIc=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Download information</a></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #0000FF'><span class='bbc_underline'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb/module_6.html?MenuState=AXfDnVVVBQAABcOIAAHvtIc=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>System Requirements</a></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>This version installs as a package and can be directly downloaded from <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/Sagelight.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...m/Sagelight.exe</a>.  This installs as a trial or the full-version if you are already registered (If you are a registered user of version 4, it should not ask you for your registration code).</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>It is a 20 Megabyte Download.  Windows XP, Vista, 2000, Windows 7, 32-or 64-bit is supported..  See the System Requirements link above for more information.</span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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</span></span></span></span> <span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><strong class='bbc'>4.2 (Part I) Release Notes</strong></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><strong class='bbc'><br />
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</strong></span></span></span> <span class='bbc_left'> </span> <span class='bbc_left'> </span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/bokehbanner.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span></span></span></span> <span class='bbc_left'> </span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast Depth of Field</span></span></strong></strong></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>The Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Fast Depth of Field are a very powerful, comprehensive set of functions written to perform a number of depth of field, bokeh, and other blurring effects.  Written mostly in SSE2 and SSE4 code, these functions are written to be used easily and quickly in a free-form, real-time environment. You can use these functions with a vignette-style automatic mask and/or with your own easily-drawn (or created depth mask) to create advanced effects rapidly.</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'>Features</strong></span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><ul class='bbc'><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Very fast real-time display.</span></span></span>  Though Bokeh, particularly, is a very intensive process, you can change the display and change the masking in realtime to get real feel for what is happening with the result.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Fast and High Quality Results.</span></span></span>  Lens blur and Bokeh can be a slow process because it is very intensive.  Sagelight's Bokeh routines are written to be as fast as possible as well as very high resolution.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Extremely Fast Depth of Field function</span></span></span>.  Sagelight also has a "Fast Depth of Field" function that can be used on its own, but also within the Bokeh/Lens blur function to help increase speed. The Depth of Field function can perform a blur of effectively over a quadrillion pixels in just a few seconds -- on one processor.  It's this sort of speed that allows the visceral feedback that Sagelight is known for.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Graphic, interactive interface</span></span></span>.  You can change the size, shape, and placement of the auto-mask (i.e. like a vignette) reticle by just dragging it around on the screen.  The display adjusts automatically.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Multiple Auto Mask Shapes</span></span></span>.  You can choose from circle, elliptical, square, rectangular, planar, dual planar, and filled versions of each.  You can change the size, shape, and angle of the mask in realtime by grabbing the edges on the screen image.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>User Mask and Depth Mask.</span></span></span>  You can also use your own mask on top of the auto-shaped mask.  You can define the mask to simple block certain items to provide a depth-of-field look to your image, and to blur only selected areas.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Real-time Mask Editing</span></span></span>.  You can edit your own mask from the Bokeh/Lens Blur and Fast DOF functions.  As you work with the function, you can simply edit the mask as you see more of what you're looking for.  You don't need to exit the function or take time to change the mask and re-enter the functions and redo the settings.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Photographically-oriented Aperture Shapes</span></span></span>.  You can select from various aperture shapes, such as a circle, triangle, square, hexagon, octagon, etc., as well as filled, semi-transparent and hollow versions of each shape.  The shapes are high-resolution and designed to work best for a truly photographic representation (as opposed to cute shapes).</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Realistic Specular Highlights Controls</span></span></span>.  One of the trademarks of Bokeh is the 'bloom' on specular highlights -- the specular highlights that turn into either circles or whatever the aperture shape.  Sagelight has realistic highlight controls, which can help you define the highlights in your image and make them stand out.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Extended Highlight Controls</span></span></span>.  In addition to the standard Highlight Strength and Highlight Amount controls, Sagelight also has the following controls that help with the Highlights</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Specular Edge</span></span></span>.  This is sometimes known as the 'bloom' in other programs.  This basically allows the highlights, as they turn into the shape of the aperture and become larger, to become more defined or less defined.  As they become more defined, they tend to look more like an effect (which can look nice, but isn't necessarily realistic, either), where using the control to bring the edge down can make the specular reflections look much more realistic and naturally photographic.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Color Edge</span></span></span>. This control allows you to decide how your reflections look as they grow into the aperture shape.  This control allows you to move the reflections into their component color.  Instead of getting a pure white reflection from a sunset, for example, the Color Edge control allows you to move the reflections into the golden hues of the sun.  The sun peering through the grass is another example; instead of a white reflection, you can move the reflection into the green & yellows that make for a much more realistic image.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Highlight Clipping.</span></span></span>  As well as the Highlight Strength, you can also clip the highlights. This allows you to establish a highlight range, avoiding too many highlights from the brighter areas, while allowing the mid-tone highlights to stand out.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Pre-Blur Backlight Control</span></span></span>.  This is a powerful tool, as it allows you to make the highlights completely stand out while adding contrast to your image.  While other vignetting features are provided (see below), this performs a backlight function with a Burn algorithm that can make the image stand out and allows the highlights to come through much more defined.   It can add a dramatic dimension to your image.  Contrast this with the Vignette Controls listed below.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Vignette Controls</span></span></span>.  Post-blur, you can add a vignette to the image to darken it or lighten it.  You can use one of 5 modes to get the tone you're looking for.  The vignette follows the auto-mask vignette, so it is perform in just the right areas for the image.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Post Color Functions</span></span></span>.  You can add saturation or vibrance to your image while your in the Bokeh/Lens Blur or Fast DOF functions.  This can add a lot of depth to your image, especially when combined with the Highlight Backlight Control or the vignetting controls.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>Additionally, you can control the auto-shape mask areas and overall image independenly.  This can help focus on the subject by adding or removing color from one area, and performing the opposite in another area.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Highlight Mask.</span></span></span> Another very powerful function, this allows you to create a mask for the highlights.  The problem with traditional Bokeh is that the highlights get out of control very quickly -- you may see one you like, but to get it where you want it means over-highlighting other areas.  With the Highlight mask, you can simply paint the areas you want to keep where they are and then adjust other areas independenly.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Complete Mask Control.</span></span></span>  Listed below are the masking controls within the Lens/Blur and Fast DOF functions</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Edit Mask</span></span></span>.  Edit your own mask (which you can import) and see the result immediately.  You can use the normal mask editor for this, and you can edit either the blur/depth mask or the highlight mask.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Load & Save Masks</span></span></span>.  You can loads and save both mask types by saving or loading a preset.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Enable Mask</span></span></span>. You can enable or disable each mask type.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>As selection Mask</span></span></span>.  This is yet another powerful tool, which will be discussed in articles and the documentation.  It allows you to create Depth of Field effects without having to worry about precise edges.  It allows you to, in fact, be very imprecise with your mask without causing edges.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Lazy Mask</span></span></span>.  Another Sagelight innovation, this allows you to create your depth of field blur without a mask.  You can simply put back in what you want later.  This avoids the problem of traditional blurring where the blur also blurs the area you want to avoid ruining the effects.  This allows you to very casually create a depth of field blur without creating a mask, yet it also allows you to keep the foreground areas intact.  As with the "As Selection Mask" setting, this allows you to create a very imperfect mask (i.e. quickly) while not losing the accuracy you want.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Clip Mask</span></span></span>. This allows you to let the blur bleed into the image, allowing the effects from the masked areas into the non-masked areas.  This can make an image look more realistic when you're blurring foreground items. This will also be a subject of some articles.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Highlight Mask Multiply Slider</span></span></span>.  This allows you to increase or decrease the areas masked with the highlight mask.  As you make changes, this allows you to adjust these areas without re-editing the mask.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Distortion and Spin</span></span></span>.  These controls allow you to distort the image, adding a surreal, zoom-like effect.  This works well with centered images.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Preset Suppor</span></span></span>t.  You can load and save presets, which will also save any masks you have in memory (they do not need to be active). Also, when you come back into the Bokeh/Lens Blur or Fast DOF functions, your last settings are restored automatically (if you're editing the same file).</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Window Undock.</span></span></span>  You can undock the secondary controls window for greater access and speed in using the controls</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Masking Enhancements</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></li></ul><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>    </span><span class='bbc_left'>Various Masking improvements:</span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><ul class='bbc'><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>New Brushes</span></span></span>.  The brushes have been revamped to work better.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Transparency Control</span></span></span>.  You can now set transparency as well as hardness and pressure.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Auto Mask Save</span></span></span>.  The mask now works more like an alpha channel.  When you dismiss it, it is still there and will come back the next time you activate the mask. For example, if you use the Bokeh controls, you can turn the mask back on and edit it, even if it wasn't being used when you entered the function.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Load and Save Masks</span></span></span>.  You can also load and save mask from/to files.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Import and Export to the Clipboard</span></span></span>.  You can transfer the mask in from and out to the clipboard.  This facilitates easy usage of external editors.  For example, you can paste in a depth mask for use with the Lens Blur or DOF functions very easily.  You can also export a mask created in Sagelight to another editor.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Transfer to and from main image view</span></span></span>.  You can convert the mask to the main image for better editing (and then go back to the main image).  You can also transfer the main image into a mask (converted to a LAB L channel), which has some benefits to be described in an article.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Mask menu Items</span></span></span>.  There is now a 'Mask' menu item which has a host of entries in it to help make masking easier.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Saved Status</span></span></span>.  The mask now remembers what you were doing the last time you were there.  It retains the settings (i.e. brush size, etc.) until you've loaded a new file</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>External Browser and RAW browsing support</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></li></ul><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>You can now set a path to an external Browser.   You can press E or Control-E to launch it.  When Sagelight receives the file from the external browser, it will load the image without starting another instance of Sagelight.  You can use 'E' in place of 'O' (Open File) is you choose to use an external browser.</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'>Features</strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span><ul class='bbc'><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Launch External Browser easily</span></span></span> .  Just use 'E' or Control-E</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Ask for RAW options</span></span></span>.  As an option, you can tell Sagelight to automatically ask for RAW options (instead of using defaults) when a RAW file is passed to it from an external browser.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Current Path Passed</span></span></span>.  You can also tell Sagelight to pass the current directory when a file is opened.  This tells your external browser to start in the directory in which your open file resides.</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Fast Loads</span></span></span>.  When you load an image from an external browser, Sagelight drops it right into the opened Sagelight instance.  This means it is fast.  If Sagelight is not opened, the new load speed (see below) also keeps it fast.</span></span></span></span></li></ul><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'>RAW Support</strong></span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><br />
</strong></span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>An external browser can be used to browse RAW files windows cannot display, and some people use 3rd-party external browser for various reasons, rather than using the standard Windows Browser.</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><br />
</strong></span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'>Windows support for RAW.</strong></span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><br />
</strong></span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>Windows now has support for RAW images in the Windows Browser.  In Sagelight testing, this means that Sagelight can now show the RAW thumbnails of most RAW images in the browser.  Use this link to to the Microsoft website to install it on your 32-bit or 64-bit Windows System:</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #0000FF'><span class='bbc_underline'><a href='http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=26829#overview' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.microsoft...=26829#overview</a></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>ICC Profiles from RAW images</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>This was more of a bug than a feature, but I thought it should be noted.  ICC profiles stored in RAW images are now loaded and the image is converted to that profile.</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'>note about Adobe RGB with RAW images.  There has been a lot of discussion about using Adobe RGB embedded into RAW files.  It has been noted by many that colors seem to be oversaturated when loading RAW files with Adobe RGB profiles.  You may see this in Sagelight.  It is an issue with the concept of using an ICC profile with a RAW image.  My advice is to not use Adobe RGB ICC profiles with your camera.  If you want to use an Adobe RGB profile, shoot in sRGB (i.e. no profile) and then convert it to Adobe RGB after you've opened it.</span></span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span> <span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Added Settings</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>There are a few settings added, mostly relating to the external browser support.</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>In addition, there is a new setting to go back to the old-style slider handles.  This version moved all slider handles to the smaller, triangular format.  If you don't like the, you can use the settings to change them back (they're easier to see because they are so much larger).</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Loading Time Much Faster</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>Not that the previous loading time was slow by any means, but it was getting longer because of all of the graphics that have been added in the last couple releases.  Now, it writes all of the compressed information to disk as uncompressed data.   When you first load it, it will take as long as normal.  After that, there will be at least a 5x increase in loading time.</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>I wanted to facilitate faster loading with external browsers, but also on Netbooks which tend to be much slower and the load time longer.</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Reload Raw File With Options</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>This has been requested, and now you can reload your image quickly with RAW options. Sagelight will tell you to load with Highlight Recovery here and there, and now it is that much easier.  This also helps when images have been loaded with external editors, since the original path is either not completely known or is fairly long.</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Undo Brush Enhancements and Bug Fix</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>The Undo Brush has had some features added and bugs fixed.</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span></span></span></span></span><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'>Features</strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><br />
</strong></span></span></span></span></span><ul class='bbc'><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Show Mask Button</span></span></span>.  You can now look at the mask you're generating.  This is helpful in two ways.</span><ul class='bbc'><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>You can show the mask as semi-opaque</span></span></span></span>.  This allows you to work with edges you want to closely define. You can see the mask your building and the image, which allows you to exactly where the undo points will be.</li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='color: #1388EC'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>You can look at the mask as opaque</span></span></span></span>.  This helps show streaks in areas you may have missed.  Typically, such streaks have zero effect and are nothing to worry about. But, if you're created very large changes (such as blurring), then these missed areas may show up later when they are much harder to deal with.  You can click the Show Mask Button quickly to toggle it to see any missed areas.</li></ul></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Brushes Revamped</span></span></span>.  This also includes the Clone Brush, and actually has a more pronounced effect with this function.  The brushes are smoother and work better.  In the case of the clone brush, the blending is significantly better (I was a little surprised, actually)</span></li><li><span style='color: #000000'><span style='color: #B66049'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Display Bug Fixed</span></span></span>.  The bug that caused the display to not return to normal when using the image view buttons has been fixed.</span></li></ul></div><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'> <span class='bbc_left'> </span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-size: 17px;'>Coming in Sagelight 4.2 (Part 2)</span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></strong><span style='font-family: Arial'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;b&gt;<span style='color: #0000ff'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='font-family: Arial'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span></div><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='font-family: Arial'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span></span></div>Limited Adaptive Histogram</span></span>&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>This is a nice HDR-like function.  It takes a little explaining by way of example images.  It allows you to create pronounced local contrast effects, as well as HDR-like effects that can help you bring out a lot from your image.</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Power Box and Light Blender being Docked and Tabs put into the Quick Edit & Pro Quick Edit Mode</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>The Power box and Light Blender are being docked and moved into the Quick Edit Mode space.  There will be three tabs, "Quick Edit", "Power Box", and "Light Blender". This will make it much more organized.  You'll still be able to undock these windows if you want to.</span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'> </strong></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Miscellaneous</span></strong></strong></span></span></span></span></span></div><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'> </span></span></span></span></span><div class='bbc_indent'><span style='font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span style='color: #000000'><span style='font-family: Arial'><span style='font-size: 13px;'><span class='bbc_left'>There's a few things on the list, mostly UI issues.  For example, there will be an option to skip the JPEG window that asks what compression ratio you want to save.  You can then re-enable it from the settings menu.</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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</span><span class='bbc_left'>Let me know what you think, or if you have any problems and questions.  I can be reached here or at <a href='mailto:rob@sagelighteditor.com' title='E-mail Link' class='bbc_email'>rob@sagelighteditor.com</a></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>Rob</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Bug, Other Issues</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/256-sagelight-bug-other-issues/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've encountered a number of minute errors over the months, but absolutely nothing beyond what I'd expect for a program such as Sagelight - considering where it's at. A couple months ago I got terribly annoyed because Sagelight would crash often when I was working with high-resolution jpegs (12 MB) - specifically while using the Clone & Heal function. I presumed it was simply memory, and maxxed-out my memory to 4 GB. I run Windows XP SP 3, Home. I run an extremely light computer. No bells or whistles. Lately, I've moved into working with TIFFs exclusively, as I'm now selling many high-res prints and clients are demanding TIFF-format files. They are superior, the point is a moot one.<br />
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I understand completely that Sagelight is made for advanced hobbyists, so my rant may be for naught. However, I just lost a $200 job after doing the physical labour of shooting it because Sagelight crashed 10-20 times <em class='bbc'>per image</em> (total 14 images), and made me miss a 5pm deadline. I still need to watermark in Photoshop 7 for my designer-client to make use of her pix on her blog, as Sagelight doesn't watermark - or I would've done this as I retouched each image. <br />
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Anything to offer in response? With Adobe now beginning to implement their cloud-licensing system, and Sagelight not only unable to perform a few very basic functions - or perform them properly - this cas me wondering if I should begin scouting for a 3rd alternative <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /><br />
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~Danny<br />
<a href='http://dbiphotography.co.cc' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://dbiphotography.co.cc</a><br />
<a href='http://www.modelinsider.com/8040' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.modelinsider.com/8040</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 02:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Big Fix Release: Sagelight 4.2g</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
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I just released Sagelight 4.2g.   It's a very minor release to fix a bug that can cause a crash if you use the image view buttons in the Clone Brush or Dodge and Burn Brush. <br />
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If only affects you if you have version 4.2.   <br />
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It can be found at <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/LatestUpdate.exe' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelight...atestUpdate.exe</a><br />
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I am still working on the second part of the 4.2 release, but this bug was found in the process.  Thanks to DBIPhotography and Selexo for finding it. <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Thank you Sagelight</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' />Thank you Rob for providing a program that has earned me the"Portrait of the year award" with my local camera club. Judged By our town Art Gallery director and artist, who said some very nice things about it. Sagelight is the only program that is so simple to use to get brilliant results so easily. As a teenager in the swinging 60's I came into photography late in life, after a crazy, busy life working around the globe doing other things. This great hobby is only a couple of years old for me, and winning personal awards is a whole new experience(It would seem quite an enjoyable one though) See "Sculpture Lady" in my Sage light forum gallery. Same photo but much smaller resolution and not so much time spent on it!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Working with Local Areas: Masking and the Undo Brush</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<span class='bbc_center'><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://youtube.com/v/DvqaILE42Pc"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://youtube.com/v/DvqaILE42Pc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
</span><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Working with Local Areas: Masking and the Undo Brush</span> <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Introduction</span></strong><br />
The subject of working with localized areas came up the other day, and I decided it might make a good video tutorial. <br />
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Using local areas is accomplished through masking or the Undo Brush, or a combination of both.  Each has their advantages, and both have a lot of flexibility. <br />
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Though the Undo Brush and Masking has been covered in many <a href='http://www.youtube.com/user/SagelightEditor?feature=mhee' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Sagelight Video Tutorials</span></a><span style='color: #0000ff'>,</span> this video discusses using them in the context of specifically working with more localized areas of your image.  For example, if you want to increase the light on a certain area while leaving others alone, or increase the local contrast or sharpness in other areas, you can do all of this with the tools explained in the tutorial. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Lightroom Adjustment Brushes</span></strong><br />
The issue of Lightroom Adjustment Brushes came up on the discussion board as part of the same conversation.<br />
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To clarify and to add perspective, Lightroom Adjustment brushes are along the same concept lines as the functions presented in this video: working with localized areas of your image vs. the entire image. <br />
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As far as I know, Sagelight’s local controls predate Lightroom’s adjustment controls, working along more traditional masking lines.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Tutorial Sections</span></strong><br />
The tutorial is split into a few different sections…<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Masking with the Draw Mask Brush</span></strong><br />
This section shows using the Draw Mask brush to draw your own mask.  Since most masking is about blending, you don’t need to be too careful with your brush strokes.   When you’ve drawn a mask, you can then use the dynamic Feather and Range sliders to control the mask and shape it closer to your selection, or to widen the scope and blend the mask more evenly. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Using All Controls in the Mask / Dynamic Controls and Masking</span></strong><br />
When you mask an object, you can use all of the controls in the main Quick Edit Pane, to adjust brightness, saturation, curves, etc. <br />
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You can change the settings dynamically, as well as change the mask dynamically also.  You can change the shape of the mask and add or subtract to it while you are using the controls.  This gives you a lot of power and flexibility in defining your mask.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Using the Undo Brush</span></strong><br />
The Undo Brush allows you to do even more.  While – at first – not as localized as masking, the Undo Brush gives you even more power, allowing you to either blend back the original image, or to start with the original image and blend in your changes.<br />
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The video shows how the Undo Brush is in the same scenario as the masking, but much quicker and in a more freestyle and artistic setting.  <br />
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Even though you can change the shape of the mask, it tends to remain relatively static. The Undo Brush, by contrast, allows you to blend back images from an image-wide perspective, allowing you to work with a brush on the entire set of changes. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Using Masking (Instead of the Undo Brush) for specific areas</span></strong><br />
The video shows a scenario where masking makes more sense over using the Undo Brush.  The examples shows highlighting the eyes, where it makes more sense to localize the area so that only the area you have masked changes, making it easier to see the effect in the image. <br />
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The video also shows how the masking controls can help you shape the mask while you’re using the controls.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Using the Undo Brush for Specific Purposed (such as Dodge and Burn)</span></strong><br />
The video discusses using the Undo Brush with functions that help make them even better.  For example, the Dodge and Burn brush is sometimes much better suited towards making large changes and then using the Undo Brush to keep what you like, or to remove the overflow from the brush – the video shows that using smaller brushes in the Dodge and Burn is not necessarily as useful as using a large brush. <br />
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This can also be true of many other functions – the basic idea is that the Undo Brush gives you the flexibility to not have to be precise at all with any given function.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>Using the Automated Masking Tools to Help You Define a Selection</span></strong><br />
For more precise selections, the video shows how you can use the automatic mask selection tools in Sagelight help refine your mask for very precise shapes. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Conclusion</span></strong><br />
The Undo Brush and Sagelight Masking are very powerful elements in Sagelight, much more so than discussed in this tutorial.  See other tutorials on the Sagelight You Tube Page for more information about these tools.<br />
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This video concentrates on using masking and the Undo Brush to work with local areas in your image. <br />
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Using the masking allows you to work with specific local areas of your image, using any control in the main Quick Edit Panel, only changing the areas of the mask.  You can change the shape of the mask and use the controls dynamically, which gives the masking a lot of flexibilty.<br />
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With the Undo Brush, you can do even more, since you can blend with any previous image in the history state with a brush, making it more freestyle and less constricted than a static mask. <br />
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The video shows many different examples of using both the masking and the Undo Brush, separately and together.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDcgo_K9Cg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/bokeh-dog-videothumb1.jpg?w=368&#038;h=292' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDcgo_K9Cg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Click to watch the video on Youtube</span></a></span><br />
I just posted a video that gives an introduction to the Sagelight Bokeh and Lens Blur function.<br />
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I have a number of tutorials planned, and this video is more of an overview than a tutorial. <br />
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It shows how to quickly create Lens Blur and Bokeh effects with little effort.  It also shows how easy it is to use the mask in the Bokeh/Lens Blur function to make the feature even more effective. <br />
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In this particular video, the emphasis is on the easy masking.  One of the issues with Bokeh and Lens Blur is that, typically, you have to create the mask before you go into the Bokeh/Lens Blur function. <br />
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This can make creating a mask rather difficult, since you have to know what you’re going to do, more or less, before you can perform the blur.  This causes pressure to make the mask well-defined, which can take a lot of time and, realistically, transform something that should be fun into a lot of work – especially if you’re just experimenting to see if anything good comes from playing around with the Bokeh/Lens Blur. <br />
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With Sagelight, you can simply go into the Bokeh/Lens Blur with no intentions and edit as you go. <br />
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The main rule with the mask is: just work with what you see, and don’t worry about being careful.  You can just create a very quick mask within a few short seconds, and then hit the little “hot spots” that you want later.<br />
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The Shaped Auto-mask in the Bokeh really helps you out, so you don’t need to completely define your mask. <br />
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Also, the a large amount of coding work went into making the Bokeh and Lens blur not have to work with very detailed masks.  This is because creating a mask with the Bokeh/Lens Blur is a natural thing to want to do, and it was important to make sure that it was not only an easy process, but also not very intimidating. <br />
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You can use depth masks and be as complicated and detailed as you want to be.  But, for most things, you can just experiment and add details as you go, which, for me, makes image editing not only more fun and entertaining, but also more of a spontaneous artistic activity. <br />
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I never really know what I want do with an image until I’m doing it, and that’s how I’ve written Sagelight.  The Bokeh/Lens Blur function really was a challenge for me in that regard, as these functions are very intensive and took a long time to write.<br />
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But, between the interactive masking, real-time display, and highlight masking (next video), the Bokeh/Lens Blur functions can be used to create some very different and artistic images in just a few minutes. <br />
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This video shows how I went from this:<br />
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to this:<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/bokeh-dog-new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/bokeh-dog-new_thumb.jpg?w=600&#038;h=533' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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With just about 2-3 minutes of actual work on my part!<br />
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The video is located at: <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDcgo_K9Cg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDcgo_K9Cg</span></a><br />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Applying My Presets Problem</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I save the settings of an image as a preset in V4.2g, and the .slp file is saved.<br />
I load the next image and select the preset, the new image tremours but nothing happens.<br />
Am I doing something wrong?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Don]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Coming in Sagelight</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
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Well, I've definitely been a little quiet lately.  As I mentioned in another post, I really got bogged down in some development that turned out to be much heavier than I thought.  I am 98% done with it and should have a new version of Sagelight out by the weekend. <br />
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I thought I'd let people know where I'm going with Sagelight, and I'll outline what I'm about to release (see a couple image examples in the <strong class='bbc'>Rob??</strong><strong class='bbc'> </strong>discussion thread)<br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>In the New Release Scheduled for the weekend</span></span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 15px;'>Bokeh, Lens Blur, and Depth of Field. </span></strong><br />
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I've mentioned this in the previous thread, but I thought I'd outline all of the changes coming with it.  Part of the reason the development took longer than expected (not to mention because of my cold) was because of all of the things that were required to implement what was supposed to be a very simple variable blur function.  I think I might go into this in detail in another thread. <br />
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Basically, the implementation of Bokeh also required a revamping of the masking and the addition of a number of other functions to support the bokeh.  One of the the things I realized, once I moved into the territory of creating a lens blur/bokeh section was that I wanted it to be as useful as possible -- to exceed what is out there and also to keep it within Sagelight's main goals of being as fast as possible and very easy to use (such as real-time masking, etc.).  So, in the following list, most of the elements involved were a direction result of adding the Lens Blur/Bokeh functionality, but also as a general evolution of things:<br />
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In the New Release (projected for this weekend).<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>1. Fast Depth of Field / Variable Blur</strong><br />
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This allows you to create a blur map with controls to select a circular, elliptical, rectangular masking with blur size, softness, etc.  in realtime.  It's very fast, works well in realtime, and can generate a depth-of-field with a 192-bit floating-point blur result of varying blur sizes (based on the generated- or user-mas) up to the largest blur size in a second or so.<br />
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It also allows you to use and interactively edit a mask, either a selection mask or depth mask.  You can edit the mask dynamically while working with the blur -- you don't have to switch back and forth between modes.  You can edit the mask and see the results instantaneouly.</div><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>2. Lens Blur & Bokeh</strong><br />
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The Lens Blur/Bokeh allows you to use a Lens Blur with Bokeh Controls (many of which are extensions on standard Bokeh with great results) with different aperture types, such as a circle, hexagon octagon, diamond, hollow shapes, etc.<br />
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The main purpose of the Bokeh is to generate photographic results that look realistic.  But, you can also go further and make tilt-shift and other types of images.<br />
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It works very fast in realtime, so you can change any parameter, edit masks, etc. and see the results instantly (this was 70% of the work and why it took longer than expected to get out!)<br />
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You can click and drag the sizing rectangle/circle on the screen to create automatic masks, as well as using your own selection or depth mask. <br />
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Many additions to the idea of Bokeh have been added to make it much more useful, such as Highlight Masking, Highlight Clipping, Specular Reflection Thresholding (which will turn bright white reflections into color-based reflections that look more natural, such as a sunset specular reflection to orange-yellow, that sort of thing). <br />
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You can also use functions to add color, distort the image (i.e. lens refraction, zoom effects), etc.   I'll explain more when I release it. </div><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>3. Masking Tools.</strong><br />
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1. Brushes have been updated.  They work better for drawing mask selections.<br />
2. You can save/load masks<br />
3. Masks auto-save and are kept as an alpha channel.  You can now dismiss masks at will and they will be available when you want to use them as a mask. <br />
4. Bug Fixes.  Various Bug Fixes. </div><br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Where Sagelight is going in the next few months</span></span></strong><br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><strong class='bbc'>Main Function Implementations</strong></span><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>1. Advanced Adaptive Noise Reduction. </strong><br />
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This has already been designed and just needs to be implemented.  It adds on to the existing noise reduction in Sagelight.  A realtime version will be in the Power Box and a more advanced & aggressive version in its own menu. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>2. HDR </strong><br />
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One of the main things I want for Sagelight is for it to be a creative outlet as well as a very powerful editor.  With HDR, Bokeh, the functions I've been adding lately (the Light Blender, Color Blender, DOF, Bokeh, revamped vignetting functions, etc.) I'm really looking to implement very highly-advanced, professional level tools that can be used easily.  <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>3. Object Removal (aka "Content Aware")</strong><br />
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It turns out that this isn't too difficult, and the algorithms already exist -- they just need to be implemented.   This will allow you to select an object and Sagelight will automatically remove it and put in a new background.  For example, you could just circle a dead part of a leaf and Sagelight will replace it seamlessy with a texture based on the surrounding areas <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>4. Layer Functionality. </strong><br />
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I am still reticent (and becoming more opposed) to adding a standard layer structure into Sagelight.  Rather, I have a design for a layer structure that will allow for layers to be used by those who don't really want to use or completely understand layers, but that will also be useful to those who really like layers. <br />
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As the author of Sagelight, I have to keep in mind that Sagelight was written to do 95% of everything you'd want to do with a layer without requiring the user to use layers.  Sagelight uses layers extensively internally do you don't have to -- it's quite a burden from a programming perspective, because this means I need to provide a lot of functionality that I wouldn't have to otherwise, but it is worth it -- that's why there are controls like Saturation, vignetting, etc. in many functions -- because these tend to be the things you want to do with layers -- and have to with programs like photoshop -- but don't have to in Sagelight because it's provided for you in kind of a "reverse layer system" that ends up hiding the layer usage for you!<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>5. Batching and Scripting. </strong><br />
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Well, these are very intensive things to do, but I am very much looking forward to them.  Look for these to appear in pieces, a few things here, a few things there. <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>6. Updates on Functions that really just need to move along with the times. </strong><br />
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1. Lanczos resizing.  (again, thanks to Detail Man)<br />
2. Better Exif handling -- it needs to be more revamped. <br />
3. More RAW functionality.  I am very happy with how the RAW is handled now, but see things I want to do ti make it even better.  Look for some low-level noise reduction soon!  That will be the first thing to appear. <br />
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There's a basic outline of where Sagelight is going.  If you look at the last few updates, you might notice that they've all included major new functions, such as the Light Blender, Color Toner, Advanced Vignette Functions, Power Box, etc. -- all highly advanced.  Now, my intention is to add a few more of those but also concentrate on some of the basic issues that really need to be taken care of, too, such as the Lanczos resizing and Exif upgrade.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #4169e1'>Pricing in the Next Few Months</span></span></strong><br />
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It's really TBD.  <br />
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You know, this is a tough issue for me.  The Bokeh tools I just implemented, for example, are commensurate with Alien Skin for $199 or DOF Pro for $99, with functions those two don't have (DOF Pro is a different type of program, though, so it's not a 1:1 comparison as, say, Alien Skin might be), and the Power Box, as another example, contains the Vibrance and other functions that are equal to (or better) than Lightroom functions. <br />
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Even though I want to keep Sagelight as cheap as possible, there is no way I can keep it at $39.  I was supposed to raise it to $79 a while back but got caught up in this latest round of development.  <br />
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Any ideas on how to keep Sagelght cheap (i.e. in the range of 'the regular guy/gal') while not lessening all of the power it now has would be greatly appreciated!<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #ff0000'>The Current $39.95 Lifetime Version Pricing. </span></strong><br />
<br />
This will be ending without notice shortly after I get this new release out.  $39.95 for a lifetime version is far too cheap for Sagelight, and the original pricing was because I was adding a large amount of development and didn't want to have people worry about which upgrades to get, etc.   It's been lingering far too long and hasn't been changed because I have been too concentrated on development to change it on the site and through Paypal, etc.  If you're on the edge about purchasing at the current price (before it changes), keep in mind there is a 60-day return policy (for any reason). <br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The current sale pricing, upgrading, and near-future plans for Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/58-the-current-sale-pricing-upgrading-and-near-future-plans-for-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've received a few letters in the last couple days about the current sale pricing ($39.95) with a lifetime version, as well as upgrade information into the lifetime version if you already have Sagelight editor. <br />
<br />
I thought this would be a good time to discuss why the sale is still going (when it was supposed to at the end of April), when it will end, and where Sagelight is going in general. <br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000FF'>The Current Sale</span></span><br />
<br />
First, if you have bought Sagelight at the regular price, you already have a lifetime version (the reasons are explained in the next section).  If you bought a Gizmo Pay What You Want version, you can upgrade to the lifetime version for the difference of what you paid and the current sale price (while the sale is still going on; just e-mail me and I will set it up, as it can't be done automatically for these purchases)<br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'><span style='color: #0000FF'>Sagelight version 4.2 and the End of the Sale</span></span><br />
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There have been a few things I've wanted to get into Sagelight before I raised the price.  With each successive version of Sagelight, the number of and quality of the functions has risen greatly.  Version 3.0 put Sagelight into a new class, and version 4.0 did the same thing. <br />
<br />
At the moment, there are only a couple missing things that separate Sagelight from direct 1:1 competition with products like Adobe Lightroom.  An interesting facet of all of this is that some of the things needed in Sagelight have become more pressing because Sagelight has that much more power now.  As it is, Sagelight has a lot of very high-end functions and quite a bit of power, with a couple omissions that need to be rectified.<br />
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As I mentioned, it has a couple things to go before I'm ready to raise the price to the projected $79.95, at least to start with.  Basically, until its ready (another month or so) the price is pretty cheap just to make the transition easy. <br />
<br />
Here is a breakdown of what's going on there..<br />
<br />
<ul class='bbc'><li><strong class='bbc'>Standard & Advanced/Pro Version</strong>.  Sagelight is being split into a Standard & Advanced/Pro version, and this is in the process right now.  The main desire is to keep Sagelight as cheap as possible, but to also highlight its advanced functionality as well as keep it known as an easy-to-use editor.  Splitting it into two versions will help because then I can put out a cheaper version while still putting in more complex functions into it, as well as non-advanced functions that everyone can use.  This is why if you buy Sagelight right now you're getting the lifetime version -- the exact nature of the split hasn't been worked out yet, so it wouldn't be fair to limit what you're buying until it can be more defined.  So when you buy it right now (or if you already have a regular version), I'm just going to promote them all to the highest-end version until the versions are clearly defined.  That way, you don't have to worry about anything -- it's all taken care of forever for the time being.</li><li><strong class='bbc'>Raw Browser. </strong> The Raw Browser needs to be put in before the split and price increase.  The issue with the RAW browser is actually a complex one.  The problem for me has been that most browsers I've seen in editors and other programs leave <em class='bbc'>a lot</em> to be desired.  They're either pedestrian or very hard to deal with -- or just all different.  Even some of the big companies who have as much money as they could possibly need put in browsers that are very difficult to work with.  My hope was that Microsoft, with Windows 7, would put more API support in for applications.  But, they didn't.  So, it is time to put that in, and that will be in in the next release (4.2).  However, it will be a very well-written browser, and nothing ad-hoc or half-hearted. So, it's a big undertaking!  I'm looking forward to it at this point.</li><li><strong class='bbc'>Scripting.</strong>  Advanced scripting is being worked on right now and will be available starting with version 4.2 in one-form or another.  The scripting is a fully-fledged OO-based language that will allow basically 3rd-party level applications to be written to control Sagelight.  There is already some documentation about it at <a href='http://sagelighteditor.com/devel/index.php/Sagelight_Scripting_Language_%26_Implementation' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://sagelightedit..._Implementation</a></li></ul><br />
Sagelight is getting more and more known as a powerful editor, and once the Raw Browser and Scripting is in (expected in version 4.2, release data somewhere in the next 30-60 days), this is when the split will occur and the price will raise, ending the lifetime version. <br />
<br />
There have definitely been delays in getting this latest version out.  But, now that the server problems have been solved, the new discussion board and blog are in place, and verision 4.1.6 (the last version 4.1 release) is about to be released, version 4.2 is on a good track.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[4.1.5 [Now 4.2g] - Basic crop bug still exists]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/41-415-now-42g-basic-crop-bug-still-exists/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I just upgraded to 4.1.5, though I haven't had a chance to look at all of the new features yet.  From the release notes, it seems that there's lots to see - nice job!<br />
<br />
However, I did notice that I still cannot type values into the crop width and height boxes.  I won't bore you with the details here as I've reported it several times already. If you need more info, feel free to ask.  Currently, I cannot really use SL to crop to any non-standard sizes as I can't enter any values.<br />
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Thanks,<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>New Picasa 3.9 release - interesting</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/263-new-picasa-39-release-interesting/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Just thought this was worth sharing.  I see today there is a new release of Picasa (3.9) in which they've added many new image editing effects, including "HDR-ish".  It also now includes an option for side-by-side comparison of before/after editing (sound familiar?).  Picasa is the free photo organizer/editor that I most recommend to my less-than-computer-literate friends and family.  Despite all the functionality, they've managed to keep it pretty simple.  Here's a <a href='http://support.google.com/picasa/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=93773' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>link</a> to the announcement information.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Will there be a Sagelight affiliate program?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/264-will-there-be-a-sagelight-affiliate-program/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-family: Century Gothic'><span style='font-size: 15px;'>Just wondering if you have plans for an affiliate program?  And I'd like to put a button on my blog to help advertise Sagelight, so if and when you have that, please let us know!  I can make one, but thought if you have one made already, I could use it.  Thanks!</span></span>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Seasons Greeting to Rob &#38; Sagelight Forum]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/266-seasons-greeting-to-rob-sagelight-forum/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob.<br />
<br />
Just to pause and send a message of Well Wishes for the Holiday Season to you and all in this useful forum.<br />
<br />
Thanks for the great product and image editing information throughout the year.<br />
<br />
To your successful launch of the next great Sagelight in 2012.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Seasons Greetings &#38; Best Wishes for a Happy Birday]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I'm being bad but I appreciate people's birthdays. <br />
Doesn't matter that they may not be a genius like Rob.<br />
<strong class='bbc'>SO THERE!</strong><br />
12/23/1973]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Merry Christmas!</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/269-merry-christmas/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays... Or just Good Day!  Ha... whatever you're doing today, I hope all is going well.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: $39.95 Lifetime Promotion Ending July 1st</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/121-sagelight-blog-3995-lifetime-promotion-ending-july-1st/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #c0504d'>The current $39.95 Lifetime Version Promotion is ending on July 1st. </span></strong></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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</span><strong class='bbc'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image1.png' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image_thumb1.png?w=499&h=451' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a></strong></span></strong><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_center'>(Image toned with the Tone Blender Controls)</span></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_center'><span style='color: #a5a5a5'>(Image Credit: “Davos” by </span><a href='http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasclaveirole/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Thomas Claveirole</a>)</span></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><strong class='bbc'><span class='bbc_left'><strong class='bbc'><span style='color: #0080ff'>Standard and Hobbyist/Pro Version Coming</span></strong></span></strong><span class='bbc_left'>After a couple delays, the $39.95 lifetime promotion is finally ending. </span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>On July 1st, there will be two version of Sagelight, a Standard Version and Hobbyist/Pro Version. </span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>The Pro Version is currently the lifetime version promotion.</span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>The Pro Version is Sagelight as it exists right now.  There has been a large amount of high-end, professional level tools put into Sagelight version 4.0, and the time has come to bring them out in a special version. </span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb/module_1.html?MenuState=AV9VVQHDiAABAAA=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>See a description of some of the state-of-the-art Sagelight Technology here</span></a></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image2.png' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image_thumb2.png?w=550&h=427' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_left'><span class='bbc_center'>(Tilt-Shift Image Created with Sagelight)</span></span></span></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span style='color: #c0504d'><span class='bbc_left'>The Pro Version will contain the following things the Standard Version won’t:</span></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><ul class='bbc'><ul class='bbc'><li>Power Curves</li><li>Manual Curves (i.e. Curve Adjustments using the Curves Box attached to many controls)</li><li>Second Power Box Definition Layer</li><li>Advanced LightBlender Controls (the Standard Version will have only the 5-band equalizer, or perhaps will not include the LightBlender)</li><li>Image Blending</li><li>Tone Blending Advanced Toolset (i.e. Multi-Color Tools)</li><li>HSL and C*I*E LAB modes in Pro Quick Edit Mode</li><li>C*I*E LAB extensions on Gaussian Blur, Unsharp Mask, etc.</li><li>High Pass Filter</li><li>Vibrance Curves</li><li>Vibrance Function (the Vibrance in the Power Box will exist)</li><li>Advanced Controls in the Power Box</li><li>Pro Saturation Modes (i.e. the multiple-color space Pro Saturation Functions)</li><li>RGB Channel Mixer</li><li>Upcoming CLAHE (to be put into the next release), which is an HDR-ish effect mode</li><li>Advanced Options in the Quick Edit Mode</li><li>Variable Blur/Blur Vignette (about to be upgraded for more functions)</li><li>Lens Blur (scheduled for an upcoming release)</li><li>A few other items TBD</li></ul></li></ul><span class='bbc_left'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/sageweb/module_2.html?MenuState=AV9VVQHDiAABAAA=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='color: #0000ff'>See a total feature list here.</span></a></span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
</span><span class='bbc_left'>The Standard version is still quite substantial and a price-point hasn’t been set for it yet.  That’s why the very low $39.95 promotion includes the Pro Version, to avoid confusion – basically, you get it all for life while the differences between versions are being sorted out. </span><span class='bbc_left'><br />
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</span><span class='bbc_left'><span style='color: #000000'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/39-95-lifetime-promotion-ending-july-1st/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>View the full article</a></span></span>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HDR Smart Light/Fill (Tonemapping) vs. PFSTools</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/268-hdr-smart-lightfill-tonemapping-vs-pfstools/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight questions</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/272-sagelight-questions/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have only been using Sagelight for about a day so some of these questions are from first impressions. I apologize in advance if they appear to be silly.<br />
<br />
I normally use Dxo for batch image processing and use CS5 for specific types of image adjustments not available in Dxo. While I think CS5 is a good image editor it is very expensive and I don't have enough need for that kind of processing to warrant the cost. I can continue to use CS5 but know that it is not worth the upgrade cost for me so I have been looking for a replacement. I came across a reference to Sagelight in a comment in one of the threads of the Darkroom forum on dpreview. I downloaded it and was astonished at how well it handled my Canon RAW images. After loading one image that had some "blown" areas (I live in Arizona and the sky here can be very bright) and seeing what Sagelight could do I decided to really pay attention and try out its functionality. I have been very pleased with what I have found, but have some questions about current and future functionality. Hence this post.<br />
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1) My normal workflow is to process RAW images through Dxo and then adjust them, if necessary, in a separate editor. But Sagelight does such a wonderful job in handling some of the problems I have in images that I thought I would reverse that flow - use Sagelight first and then Dxo. But I found that when I loaded a RAW image into Sagelight, adjusted it and then saved it, all of the EXIF information seems to have disappeared and Dxo can not do any lens corrections since it does not have the EXIF lens information in the Sagelight processed image. Is there some way for me to correct this problem? That is, is there some way to have Sagelight write out the EXIF information? Or is there something I am doing that is preventing Sagelight from writing the EXIF information. At the very least Dxo cannot see it after Sagelight processing and that is true for both jpg and tiff output formats.<br />
<br />
2) Since I normally shoot RAW I am always opening input files as "RAW files with options" and that always opens the dialog asking me if I want to open them Normal, Highlight Recovery or Normal and Highlight Recovery. Is there any way to set one of those options as the default so I am not constantly responding to the same question in the same way?<br />
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3) Sagelight seems to only open one image file at a time (at least I have not been able to get it to open multiple files simultaneously). Are there any future plans to have the software handle multiple open files?<br />
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4) Sometimes when I try to open a RAW file with options I get the dialog I mentioned in (2) above (Normal, Highlight Recovery or Normal And Highlight Recovery) and, after selecting Highlight Recovery and Accept, the software returns to the Welcome To Sagelight screen without displaying the File Open dialog. Sometimes repeating the process will open the File Open dialog, sometimes it will not and I have to restart Sagelight to get it to open an image. Is this a known issue? And, since this is Beta software, is there some link that I can use to report issues like this? Until I retired recently I worked as a software engineer in the Software industry for 25 years and I know the importance of getting information like this when developing products. Is there some "dump" functionality available that would allow me to upload the software state in case of an issue like this?<br />
<br />
5) Do you plan to have any batch functionality in the future that would allow users to have the software open a series of image files, set the defaults you are using and then write those files out as jpgs or tiffs?<br />
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6) Is there any proper place to post suggestions for new functionality for the future?<br />
<br />
7) Is there any way to adjust the image temperature?<br />
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8) One last (for now) question. I read the information about splitting this product into standard and Pro versions. The current download is the Pro version and if I buy it now will I be able to continue to get the Pro version as updates and upgrades in the future? Or would I be restricted to the Standard version? And what, exactly, will be the difference between those two?<br />
<br />
Thanks for any help.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Simple and focussed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How wonderful it was to discover Sagelight.  I've just paid for it because I want to support Rob and his efforts.<br />
<br />
I'd like to express a wish.  Please, please, keep Sagelight like a rifle rather than a scattergun.  Right now it's a superb bitmap image (particularly photo) editor.  I really hope you'll resist any temptation to indulge in feature-creep.  Speaking for myself, I don't want any bitmap creation tools (brushes, markers, spray cans, etc).  And I don't want any vector functionality, either.<br />
<br />
You see, I can get all that stuff in a vast number of other products - Paint Shop Pro, PhotoShop Elements, etc, etc.  Some of these competitors are so feature-heavy they take too long to learn, and the shoe-horning of additional features leaves the whole thing a clunky and confused mess.<br />
<br />
I think the Sagelight UI needs some work, but that aside it's wonderful to find a tool that concentrates on doing one thing exceptionally well.  Please don't let it evolve into a Photoshop Elements clone!<br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>First things First.  The Sagelight Book/Manual needs a name!</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/17-first-things-first-the-sagelight-bookmanual-needs-a-name/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Now that the discussion board, new blog, and wikis are starting to take shape, I am about to start posting articles on the blog that will turn in to sections of the book. <br />
<br />
But, the book needs a name. <br />
<br />
<span style='color: #0000FF'><strong class='bbc'>Some History</strong></span><br />
<br />
I've really wanted to do this book idea for a long time, and now that Sagelight users have asked for it, I think its a great time to do it.  The original thought was to create a book in the vein of "Image Editing for Dummies".  Well, not only would that infringe on someone's trademark, but I never really liked the term "Dummies" anyway.  <br />
<br />
I don't think image editing is all that hard.  I think to learn more about it, is just needs to be done in a way that is fun and easy, with a low learning-curve.  As I mentioned in another post, Sagelight was written with the idea of learning as you go.  The idea on top of the "Image Editing for Dummies" was to do it within Sagelight, but to explore true concepts at the same time.  So, you wouldn't just be learning how to do a specific thing in Sagelight that you couldn't take anywhere else. You'd be learning about the concepts involved and also how to apply these concepts in Sagelight.  I would say the "Sagelight Difference", if you will, is that it was designed from the very beginning to be able to explore concepts fairly easily that would otherwise be more difficult in a program like Adobe Photoshop, which is very powerful, but also requires a lot of knowledge up-front to really get the most out of it. <br />
<br />
So, a title that fits the idea that it is a book about image editing, but also is clearly centered around getting the most out of Sagelight at the same time would be great. <br />
<br />
Any ideas?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Some &#34;painting&#34; in Sagelight]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/284-some-painting-in-sagelight/</link>
		<description>Go to my Gallery for an example of a photograph (Zoey) edited in Sagelight and an art program. Could we add a paint function?</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Upload url</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
In one of your responses to me in a posting you suggested I upload the RAW files that are losing their EXIF information when processed by Sagelight. Can you give me a url to use? The files are 25-30MB each and I don't think I can send them to you as an email attachment because of their size.<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/281-upload-url/</guid>
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		<title>Window size and position not remembered</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/285-window-size-and-position-not-remembered/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Sagelight isn't remembering the main window size and position when it is shut down and restarted.<br />
<br />
In fact, on my machine, it always opens just slightly larger than my screen, so I have to carefully reposition it before I can then resize it.  This is the same every time it starts.<br />
<br />
Running Windows 7 64-bit with a dual monitor.  Sagelight V4.2 (beta).  Happy to post any further details you require.<br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 12:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/285-window-size-and-position-not-remembered/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight plugin question</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/282-sagelight-plugin-question/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I tried using the MV's Wire Worm plugin this afternoon but could not get it to actually work. I could see no affect at all on my image when I tried to remove a wire from the image.<br />
<br />
I assume this is because I don't know how to properly use the plugin and I could not find any tutorial on it. The is a Help section, but it only talks about how easy it is to use. The plugin dialog does appear simple enough with one slider adjusting the size of the mask and the other adjusting the Color Matching (that is a bit of a puzzle to me - what does the slide actually adjust, the area of color to match? Or the transparency to use? Or something else?). There are 2 other buttons that puzzle me. Snap and Search. Can anyone tell me what they do? Or why there is no apparent affect when I press OK? Or the location of any tutorial that would cover use of this plugin?<br />
<br />
Thanks. Feeling pretty stupid right about now ... It looks like it should be really, really simple ...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/282-sagelight-plugin-question/</guid>
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		<title>Mouse wheel (and right click)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/277-mouse-wheel-and-right-click/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Just discovered Sagelight after many years using Paint Shop Pro.  Wow!  I'm seriously impressed and am just about the press the "Buy" button.  Thanks for all the work you've done on it so far.<br />
<br />
Something I miss is a really smart zoom/scroll functionality using the mouse wheel.  If you want to be really impressed, try the feature in Microsoft Visio or in Xara Photo and Graphic Designer.  Here's how it works.  "Roll" means rolling the mouse wheel:<br />
<br />
1/ Roll scrolls the image vertically up and down<br />
<br />
2/ Shift+roll scrolls the image horizontally<br />
<br />
3/ Ctrl+roll zooms the image in or out<br />
<br />
Once you've tried using this combination (in Visio or Xara) for a few minutes, I guarantee you'll be a total convert.  It is an incredibly fast way of navigating around your document/image, zooming in on the area of interest with unparalleled speed.  At the moment it seems that "rolling" over the image does nothing, so my suggestion shouldn't interfere with any existing functionality.  I really hope you will give serious consideration to such a feature.<br />
<br />
We also need a quick way to reset to 100% zoom.  I see that you've implemented a nice "reset" feature on all the other sliders by double-clicking the little triangular "thumb", but it doesn't work on the zoom slider.  Just sorting that out would be great.<br />
<br />
Any chance of providing some right-click options?<br />
<br />
Just some background: I've been using Paint Shop Pro ever since V3, and followed it right up the X2 (the current version is X3).  I downgraded to PSP X (V10.10) as I felt it was the perfect blend of functionality without bloat.  For the first time ever I'm tempted away from PSP.....<br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/277-mouse-wheel-and-right-click/</guid>
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		<title>Some suggestions</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/274-some-suggestions/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-family: Verdana'>Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
First, thank you for such a wonderful software. I tried (and bought) many similar tools and utilities in the past years.<br />
After reviewing some of your videos, I decided to buy Sagelight yesterday.  (You can tell that your videos are useful in many ways!)<br />
I barely know all the details and tools hidden in it, and I'm sure I'll have fun finding them along my learning stage.<br />
<br />
In the meantime, from my very short usage, can I offer you some suggestions (not necessarily in order of importance). Bear in mind that maybe what I suggest already exist in the actual version, but I didn't find them as of yet.<br />
<br />
- In zoomed mode, should have an option to use a "hand" tool to move image around (while still keeping the Image Viewer vignette on the lower left corner.)<br />
<br />
- In mask mode, option to click on Shift (or Ctrl or Alt, whatever) to make a straight line with the brush. Could be useful around building.<br />
<br />
- Drop down menu items should be on the right side, not the left side, of the title. <br />
<br />
All for now, yet I'm sure I will have some more in the future!<br />
<br />
All the best to you and your family for 2012!<br />
<br />
JK</span>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/274-some-suggestions/</guid>
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		<title>UI vs features</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/279-ui-vs-features/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This is something Rob wrote a few months ago in another topic stream:<br />
<br />
<em class='bbc'>I could work for a couple months on the UI making nice graphics and buttons and all that, but I keep coming back to, "hey, I can also work on the variable blur, noise reduction, and HDR functions..". Being a developer, the latter wins! ha.</em><br />
<br />
I'm hoping I might persuade you to rebalance that a little.  I've just discovered and bought Sagelight, and I can't tell you how impressed I am.  BUT - some bits of the UI really could do with some work!  (Absolutely no offence intended.)<br />
<br />
For instance, those menus - they are (putting it politely) a little out of control.   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />   Sixteen top level menus; that's a lot!  Also, the way stuff is spread amongst them doesn't make much sense to me (as a newbie to the program).  There's an opportunity for some major reworking here.  Perhaps more toolbars?<br />
<br />
The Window menu is very confusing.  In most programs it lets you manage the windows within the program (tiling, cascading, resizing, switching to, etc).  In Sagelight it seems to switch on various toolbars (although I guess you could call the Histogram and Color Space boxes windows).  Confusingly I can also switch some, but not all, of those from the buttons at the bottom of the Quick Edit bar.  <br />
<br />
All sorts of other weird things happen.  The Power Box and Light Blender toolbars (windows) disappear if I click on a tool in the Tool Box, and don't come back when I exit that tool.  The Color Space box often sulks and doesn't update when I move over the image.  <br />
<br />
In fact, I could go on and on, but I won't.   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />   I just want to say that I think the UI is very important, especially for graphics newbies and for people who are just trying out the program.  I understand the temptation to work on all the sexy algorithms, but using a great application with a poor UI is like using a file without a handle; you can do it, but it's a bit risky and very uncomfortable.  <br />
<br />
In general, the interface between me and my work is very important to me.  I don't want a keyboard with sticky, clacky keys.  I don't want a mouse that tracks inaccurately.  I don't want a display with is blurred.  I can cope with any of those, but they get in the way of a smooth workflow.  At the moment I feel the Sagelight UI is spoiling a superb application, and making my workflow "bumpy".<br />
<br />
Anyway, I'm sure you've got the point.  Put simply, I think the UI is getting left behind and I wonder if you perhaps don't appreciate what a critical aspect of the application it is.  <br />
<br />
I also write software (but in a modest way using Delphi) and I have exactly the same problem: the UI of an application I write is obvious to me because it reflects my own thought processes and I don't need to learn it.  After all, I designed it.  But a newcomer to the program (even a power user) sees it very differently.  <br />
<br />
I wonder - do you have a UI design expert to hand who you really trust?  Perhaps an independent, expert view might help.<br />
<br />
Finally, I hope none of the above is discouraging.  Your product is outstanding, and I find it hard to believe that a solitary developer could have done such superb work.  I merely want to make the case for taking a little time out to look again at that UI.<br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/279-ui-vs-features/</guid>
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		<title>Plugin bug</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/283-plugin-bug/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been playing around with some of Sagelight's included plugins trying to see what they will do. I had opened MV's Hue Restorer plugin and, wanting to get a larger image, dragged the dialog box form to enlarge it. When I did it became obvious that when the dialog box was written someone failed to properly  anchor the 100% and Fit buttons because they do not move properly when the dialog box is re-sized. The image display is centered when the window is expanded but the buttons do not move with it and sometimes end up on top of the photo image.<br />
<br />
Similarly the Cancel, OK and Reset All buttons, which appear to be a group, do not move as a group. The Cancel and OK buttons move together but the Reset All moves separately.<br />
<br />
I don't know if this is a Sagelight bug or not since it is in an included plugin, but I thought it would help to report it. Perhaps this can be addressed in the next release. This is showing up in release 4.2g (beta). I don't have an actual build number.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/283-plugin-bug/</guid>
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		<title>Plugin issue</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/275-plugin-issue/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[While most of my Topaz plugins work without any problem I have found that the Remask 2 plugin cannot be accessed. The error message that I get is<br />
<br />
Background layers cannot be used. Please create a duplicate layer.<br />
<br />
I do not know if this is a Sagelight issue or not but thought I would at least report it.<br />
<br />
Michael Sonshine]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/275-plugin-issue/</guid>
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		<title>Windows Transparency</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/276-windows-transparency/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am running Sagelight on a 64 bit Windows 7 system with 8GB of main memory. The system has an i7 quad-core chip and a separate NVIDIA GeForce FT 540M graphics card (as well as the in-board Intel graphics functionality) with 2GB of memory. The system is set to run Sagelight using the separate graphics card and not the Intel on-board hardware.<br />
<br />
When I start Sagelight and then go to Settings -&gt; General Settings and check the Disable Semi-Transparent Windows checkbox I am told that Sagelight needs to be restarted before the settings will take effect. If I close Sagelight and then restart it Windows Transparency is not turned off. I know this because (a) I do not see the display change that accompanies turning Transparency off and (<img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> I do not get the Windows message that I get when it is turned off telling me that it is off. Further, if I minimize Sagelight, I can still see Windows transparency working without any problem. The Disable checkbox in the Settings dialog box is still checked, but it does not appear to be working on my system.<br />
<br />
Once, while processing in this state (checkbox to Disable is set but transparency is not working) I got a dialog box (I don't know if it was from Windows or Sagelight) asking if I wanted to turn transparency off. When I responded Yes it was turned off and stayed off until I turned it back on. That has only happened once. If it happens again I will make note of the exact message and update this posting with that information.<br />
<br />
<br />
UPDATE:<br />
<br />
Afer using Sagelight for a while I realized that this posting needed updating to make clear exactly what I believe is not working with the Windows transparency settings.<br />
<br />
Sagelight has 2 different ways to set or unset the Windows transparency settings. The first is the Settings -&gt; Turn on/off Windows Transparency pull-down (which I will refer to as the "pull-down") and the second is the Settings -&gt; General Settings dialog checkbox Disable semi-transparent windows (which I will refer to as the "checkbox". Presumably these settings correspond to each other so Setting/Unsetting the pull-down results in unchecking/checking the checkbox and vice-versa.<br />
<br />
Here are two possible scenarios using Sagelight.<br />
<br />
SCENARIO 1<br />
<br />
1) Start with Windows transparency working (this corresponds to the initial state after Sagelight has been installed). When Sagelight is started the pull-down displays Turn off, the dialog checkbox is unchecked and, if the user minimizes Sagelight he or she can see that Windows transparency is still working.<br />
<br />
2) Turn transparency off by selecting the pull-down. A new dialog box should appear indicating that transparency is now off. I would assume that, since the pull-down and checkbox control the same functionality, turning transparency off by selecting the pull-down should check the checkbox (<strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>this does not happen on my system</em></strong>). I would further assume that transparency should actually be turned off (this does happen on my system).<br />
<br />
3) Exit Sagelight. Windows transparency should be turned back on (this works on my system).<br />
<br />
4) Restart Sagelight. Transparency should be turned off again, the pull-down should now read Turn on and the dialog checkbox should be checked. The pull-down works properly on my system <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>but the checkbox is still unchecked</em></strong>.<br />
<br />
5) Reset things back to the original state by using the pull-down to turn transparency back on and make sure the check-box is still unchecked. Exit Sagelight.<br />
<br />
SCENARIO 2<br />
<br />
1) Start Turn transparency off by checking the dialog checkbox and pressing Accept. A new dialog box displays telling the user that the settings will not take affect until Sagelight is restarted. Exit Sagelight.<br />
<br />
2) Restart Sagelight. At this point Windows transparency should be turned off, the pull-down should specify Turn on and the checkbox should be checked. <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>On my system transparency is still on and the pull-down still stays Turn off</em></strong> although the checkbox is, in fact, still checked.<br />
<br />
So, at least on my system, the controls do not seem to work as I assume they should. One explanation is that the checkbox is only an indicator, not an actual setting control, but then why can I check it instead of it being exclusively set by the program? And why am I notified that the settings change will take affect when I restart Sagelight?  I do not have any other explanation. <br />
<br />
In any case I wanted to clarify exactly what I was saying earlier in this posting. I had been using the checkbox to control the Windows transparency settings and that does not seem to work.<br />
<br />
One last comment about this issue. When I do turn Transparency off the Sagelight display shows what appears to be a partial windows dialog box frame on the screen. I have attached a screen shot showing this odd display.<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/276-windows-transparency/</guid>
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		<title>App Crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/273-app-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I was launching the 'Online Video Tutorials' and received a message that Sagelight was no longer working. I had just finished working on an edit and closed the pic to download the tutorials.  I relaunched the app and tried again download the video tutorial and received the same error message. Here are the details there were displayed in the error message box.<br />
<br />
Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	0034d23e<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
  Additional Information 3:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
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Any ideas?<br />
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thanks<br />
kevin]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/273-app-crash/</guid>
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		<title>Any chance of perspective correction?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/287-any-chance-of-perspective-correction/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Forgive me if this is something that already exists but I've failed to find, but two really basic tools would be tremendously helpful:<br />
<br />
1/ Horizon levelling tool (where I adjust a datum line on the photo to a part which is supposed to be horizontal - such as the horizon - and the picture rotates and crops accordingly.<br />
<br />
2/ Perspective tool to correct leaning or angled buildings (where I align the corners of a datum rectangle to an object which is supposed to be rectangular, and the picture is warped accordingly).<br />
<br />
Opportunistic shots are often taken in a hurry, and the camera angle may not be quite perfect.  Basic tools like these can be very helpful.  I wonder if the underlying algorithms could be enhanced to offer more advanced warping, such as barrel, pincushion and fisheye distortion correction.  Again, very handy sometimes.<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/287-any-chance-of-perspective-correction/</guid>
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		<title>Differences With Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/289-differences-with-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Greetings Rob & All Users,<br />
<br />
I just got my new Fujifilm HS20EXR camera and it really is awesome.  I've been getting the camera and software set-up for the computer and tonight I ran a few test shots.  I got a nice side candid of our cat and ran the raw file thru both Fuji's Raw File Converter (RFC) and Sagelight on auto mode.  The Sagelight photo was far better than the RFC.  Because of their size I'll send all 3 pics along to Rob and let him decide if he wants to post them.<br />
<br />
When Rob finishes development of Sagelight and adds the batch, noise reduction, image remover and other functions this will blow away the competition.  My best,<br />
<br />
LL]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Commercial plugin - SL Compatible - free today only (15-Jan-2012)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/292-commercial-plugin-sl-compatible-free-today-only-15-jan-2012/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There is a website I follow daily that gives away a commercial software package each day.  The caveat is that you have to download, install, and register the giveaway within the time frame of the 24-hour giveaway.<br />
<br />
Anyway, today's giveaway is a PhotoShop plugin called Retouch Pilot.  I've installed it, and it seems to work well in SageLight.  It has some similarities to the "Wire Worm" plugin that's provided with SL, but also has some specific features for scratch removal, liquify, etc.  For details about the plugin's capabilities, see the product's website here:<br />
<br />
<a href='http://www.colorpilot.com/retouch.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.colorpilot.com/retouch.html</a><br />
<br />
To download your free copy, go to the GiveAway page here:<br />
<br />
<a href='http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/retouch-pilot' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.giveawayo...m/retouch-pilot</a><br />
<br />
Remember, you must download and install the plugin today (15-Jan-2012) to get it for free (normally $39.95).<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/292-commercial-plugin-sl-compatible-free-today-only-15-jan-2012/</guid>
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		<title>fill with 50 percent red - then what?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/288-fill-with-50-percent-red-then-what/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[any one have a clue what it does?<br />
cant find reference in the help<br />
<br />
thx<br />
<br />
steve]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/288-fill-with-50-percent-red-then-what/</guid>
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		<title>App crash when using masking</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/290-app-crash-when-using-masking/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This happened when I was trying to draw on an existing mask to remove part of it. Here is the crash info.<br />
<br />
<br />
 Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	ntdll.dll<br />
  Fault Module Version:	6.1.7601.17514<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ce7ba58<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000029<br />
  Exception Offset:	000907b6<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	e8ad<br />
  Additional Information 2:	e8adce1c2b9e7be834b4063ac3c53863<br />
  Additional Information 3:	e8ad<br />
  Additional Information 4:	e8adce1c2b9e7be834b4063ac3c53863<br />
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----------------------    Second crash, again masking. Here are the details. These are different from the first.    -----------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
 roblem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Discussion Board Anomalies</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/296-discussion-board-anomalies/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be something going on with the discussion board -- it is sluggish here and there, and when you post it can take quite a while to come back (just be patient here).  It all seems to be working ok, and I am not sure if Sagelight is somehow getting caught up in a DoS attack or something else, as it seems to be sluggish one moment and just fine the next (tell-tale signs). <br />
<br />
I rebooted the server, as I wasn't sure what was going on, but all seems fine now.  I may have missed some messages today and am behind on e-mails because of this issue -- I will make sure to answer tomorrow everything I missed today.  Sorry for the delays.<br />
<br />
If you notice any irregularities with the board, please let me know.  It's probably temporary, and this is just an FYI for anyone who notices the board seems to be taking a while to load images and such. <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: Bokeh Tutorial Video</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/299-sagelight-blog-bokeh-tutorial-video/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span class='bbc_center'><a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/bokeh-tutorial-video/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Ap1zPsZMmlA/2.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a></span><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Sagelight Bokeh Tutorial</span> <br />
<br />
This video shows how to use Sagelight Bokeh. This is a tutorial video showing you how to use the Bokeh from basic steps of blurring with the Lens Blur as well as creating highlights.<br />
<br />
Sagelight Bokeh is easy to use, and with just a few steps, you can create powerful Bokeh and lens blur effects.<br />
<br />
With realtime feedback and dynamic masking, it is easy to create different effects. This tutorial shows the basics, and the other posted videos show more creative uses of Sagelight Bokeh and Lens Blur.<br />
<br />
Click on the image above, or here to see it on youtube in HD: <br />
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<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1zPsZMmlA&list=UU1U1yvqVBtcYK_fztbLAOqw&index=1&feature=plcp' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1zPsZMmlA&list=UU1U1yvqVBtcYK_fztbLAOqw&index=1&feature=plcp</a><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/bokeh-tutorial-video/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>View the full article</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/299-sagelight-blog-bokeh-tutorial-video/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight Pro Saturation</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/286-sagelight-pro-saturation/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I have just finished reading instructions for the Pro Saturation Feature on the blog. As I did so, I kept in mind what you said elsewhere about your thoughts  for organizing the manual. As it is right now, it follows your overall plan; however, it goes back and forth so much that it became hard to follow and got repetitious from one place to another. As a visual person, I find bullets helpful both to memory and for finding things I've already read and want to find again. Then, as I continued to read, it seemed like it might be possible to set up a comparison chart of the different methodologies for a quick reference approach. <br />
<br />
To down and dirty illustrate what I mean, I just made a quick very incomplete chart to attach. Info is not meant to be accurate in it, just to convey the concept of what I'm talking about. Without having read all the other blog entries, it might work for several other functions as well. Yes, I know -- prose, video, and now a chart? But this would assist 3 different styles of learning. <br />
<br />
Anyway, just wanted to pass along the idea.<br />
<br />
Well, my upload attempts have failed 3 times so I will send the chart via email to you.<br />
<br />
Jean]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/286-sagelight-pro-saturation/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight Blog: A Couple Sagelight Bokeh Examples Submitted by Pat Autrey.</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/298-sagelight-blog-a-couple-sagelight-bokeh-examples-submitted-by-pat-autrey/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Pat showed me these examples of Bokeh created using Sagelight, taken at a concert.  I thought I would share them.  I thought they came out very natural, but also show the Bokeh effect in a great way.<br />
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These are used by permission and all rights and copyrights belong to Pat Autrey. Thanks, Pat!<br />
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Click on each picture for full-sized versions.<br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pat-bokeh-1.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pat-bokeh-1_thumb.jpg?w=576&#038;h=437' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image 1.</strong><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pat-bokeh-2.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><img src='http://sagelighteditor.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pat-bokeh-2_thumb.jpg?w=570&#038;h=433' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Image 2. </strong><br />
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<span style='color: #0080ff'>I’d love to see some of your, pictures too!  You can post them on the discussion board, either as a regular post, or you can even start your own gallery and post any type of image created fully or partially with Sagelight. </span><br />
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<a href='http://sagelighteditor.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/a-couple-sagelight-bokeh-examples-submitted-by-pat-autrey/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>View the full article</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>downloading Sagelight to my other computers</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/300-downloading-sagelight-to-my-other-computers/</link>
		<description>Can someone please explain to me how to  download Sagelidght editor on my other household computers .</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/300-downloading-sagelight-to-my-other-computers/</guid>
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		<title>Missing plugin</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/301-missing-plugin/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The list of available plugins Sagelight shows when you access Plugin Filters -&gt; Included Plugin Filters lists, among others, Smart Curve. However this plugin is not actually available with the Sagelight download as the others that are listed are. Further I cannot seem to find any place to actually get it.<br />
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I know this is not very important but I spent many years doing software development and got into the habit of documenting all such issues with new and existing software. Now that I am retired I find it hard to break the habit ...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Can 16-bit files be used with layers??</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/308-can-16-bit-files-be-used-with-layers/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I use PSE 9 currently and cannot use 16 bit files with layers.  I am forced to convert to 8-bits.  Can Sagelight editor work on 16-bit files, while in layers?  I am needing especially the Unsharp Mask and the High Pass filter to work on multiple layers and maybe even multiple color channels and the Luminance channel too.  Any info would be appreciated.<br />
<img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Video tutorials</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/304-video-tutorials/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This is probably a trivial use of a topic, but I've just been watching some of Rob's tutorial videos for Sagelight.  I think they're brilliant, and they really help reveal some of the clever functionality of Sagelight.<br />
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If you are a newbie (like me), I strongly recommend that you work through them.  In fact, even experienced users will most likely learn something.<br />
<br />
I've no idea at all how Rob manages to produce all those, along with the written documentation, as well as the program itself.   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> <br />
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Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight for Black and White</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/294-sagelight-for-black-and-white/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I'm a fairly new user to Sagelight and there are a lot of things I really like about the application. Please keep up the good work Rob.<br />
<br />
I like to do mostly Black and White (no toning) but I'm having a hard time trying to do some basics in Sagelight that I'm used to in other programs.  I realize it may take a shift in thinking to figure out the best ways to accomplish the same things and I'm all for that.  Below is an initial list of question.<br />
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I have a feeling that mastering the "Undo brush" and "Blend Undo" are key to a B&W workflow so I'm trying to learn those as much as possible now.<br />
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I'm a big fan of the tutorial videos and I'm hoping Rob could do one that goes through several of the tools and how they could best be used in a B&W workflow.<br />
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Sorry for the long post.<br />
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Thanks for any help.<br />
<br />
-Doug<br />
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-&gt; Black & White conversion<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>I'd like to covert to B&W and be able to affect the conversion process for a particular color in my image.  For example, I just want to darken the green which should mostly affect the grass area in my image.  Or maybe affect the skin tone with some changes to red and yellow. In Lightroom etc. there is a panel of color slider to do this.  In Sagelight I see the "Mix RGB Channels" tool but I can't seem to make it behave how I want.  No matter which channel I pick and the adjustments I make I can't seem to just change specific areas of underlying colors in my image. Is there a way to make change to the RGB combined? Any suggestions?</div><br />
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-&gt; Gradient<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>I like to use lots of gradients to modify broad areas of an image.  For example, to darken the sky in a landscape.  I see there is the "Photo filter + gradient" tool but I can only seem to make this darken my image with the neutral density checkbox. Could I also use this to lighten an area?  Is there any way to create a gradient in a mask so I could use the full set of controls within my gradient?</div><br />
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-&gt; Dodge & Burn<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>I'm used to doing this on a separate layer with painting of black and white and adjusting the blending mode.  I see that the dodge and burn tool seems pretty complete and I can probably do everything I need from there but just curious if there is a way to use blending just for local adjustments.  I'm used to masks where I can continually adjust the mask.  With the dodge and burn tool, if I work for a while and then make a mistake I feel like it's hard to undo without starting over.  I guess I could just apply often though.</div><br />
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-&gt; Edge definition<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>I'd like to make local adjustments of sharpness/softness in my images. For example to bring out the eyes in a portrait or to accentuate edges and create depth.  I think I can do this with the "Soft Glow/Soft Focus" and "Unsharp Mask" in combination with the undo brush.  Just wondering if that's the best approach or if there is a way to use masks with sharpen/soften?</div><br />
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-&gt; Healing<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>This is not specific to B&W but I'm having some trouble using the clone tool for certain things that I used to use "heal" for in Photoshop.  For example, I'd like to remove some stray hairs across the face in a portrait. I can't seem to make it look natural with just the cloning since the skin tone never quite matches.  Any suggestions?</div><br />
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-&gt; Save a file & reload with all my history etc.<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'>Again, this is not specific to B&W but I normally only get to work for short periods on an image.  I'd like to take my time and edit and image over several sessions.  Is there a way to save things so I can just come back tomorrow and pick up where I left off?  I see there are snapshots but those seem to go away when I save my image.</div>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HSL/LAB histograms display incorrectly</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/303-hsllab-histograms-display-incorrectly/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
In version 4.2g,the Pro Quick Edit histogram displays the incorrect channel data for some of the channels when using the HSL and LAB color space.  The Tone Control sliders perform on the correct channel, so this is just a histogram data problem.<br />
Also, the hover hints for the Tone Controls channel radio buttons indicate "B", "G", and "R" when hovering over "H", "S", and "L" or "L", "A", and "B".<br />
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Scenario:<br />
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1.  Select LAB color space.<br />
2.  Display histogram.<br />
3.  Select "L" radio button in Tone Controls.<br />
4.  Adjust brightness.  The "B" channel histogram and curve changes.  The slider correctly adjusts the "L" channel in the image.<br />
5.  Select "B" radio button.<br />
6.  Adjust brightness.  The "L" channel histogram and curve changes.  The slider correctly adjusts the "B" channel in the image.<br />
<br />
1.  Select HSL color space.<br />
2.  Display histogram.<br />
3.  Select "H" radio button in Tone Controls.<br />
4.  Adjust brightness.  The "Luminance" channel histogram and curve change.  The slider correctly adjusts the "Hue" channel in the image.<br />
5.  Select "L" radio button.<br />
6.  Adjust brightness.  The "Hue" channel histogram and curve change.  The slider correctly adjusts the "L" channel in the image.<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
Ron]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/303-hsllab-histograms-display-incorrectly/</guid>
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		<title>Wonderful examples gallery of Sagelight edited pictures</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/311-wonderful-examples-gallery-of-sagelight-edited-pictures/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I find the following examples gallery another wonderful resource of Sagelight edited pictures,<br />
containing a lot of pictures from jonmilligan.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'><a href='http://flickriver.com/photos/tags/sagelight/interesting/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://flickriver.co...ht/interesting/</a></strong><br />
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I love the pictures from  Asa' Thor (Until now not a member of  the SL-Forum <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />)<br />
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The pictures are showing my most loved region of the world "The dolomites", <br />
because nearly every year I was there walking and going fixed rope routes.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/311-wonderful-examples-gallery-of-sagelight-edited-pictures/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[Sagelight &#38; Image Doctor 2]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/302-sagelight-image-doctor-2/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
Is there any chance in the near future that Sagelight can be programmed to work with Alien Skin's Image Doctor 2?  This is a really great program for certain photos and it would contribute to Sagelight becoming more mainstream while keeping its' uniqueness.<br />
<br />
LL]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/302-sagelight-image-doctor-2/</guid>
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		<title>Plugins</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/271-plugins/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I downloaded the trial version of Sagelight yesterday evening and started trying it this morning. I was very pleasantly surprised with the editor itself and how it handled my images so I decided to try more functionality. One of the things I wanted to do was to access my existing Topaz plugins that I currently use with CS5, but when I added the folder under the editor links Plugin Filters -&gt; Go To Plugin Filters it did not show the Topaz plugins. It did show all of the other plugins under the specified folder, but not the Topaz plugins. Is there something I am missing about adding these plugins? Or someplace else I should be adding them?<br />
<br />
I really like the editor but want to use my existing plugins.<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Brush size keyboard shortcut</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/297-brush-size-keyboard-shortcut/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Rob.<br />
One UI improvement that would help me greatly is the addition of keyboard shortcuts for increasing and decreasing the brush size.  It is difficult to set the correct size brush when you have to drag the brush away from the point of interest to access the slider.  The use of a pen/tablet seems to magnify the need.  It doesn't matter which keys are used, as long as they are next to each other on the keyboard.<br />
<br />
I apologize if this has been previously requested, but I didn't find it in the forums when I searched.<br />
<br />
Thanks for a great product and your constant attention,<br />
Ron]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/297-brush-size-keyboard-shortcut/</guid>
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		<title>Masking question</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/291-masking-question/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been trying to learn Sagelight and its functionality by playing around with some photos I took in the desert. Here the sky tends to be very bright and I have been trying to use masking to moderate its brightness and add some blue tint. However it seems  that the only functionality I can use with masking are the adjustments in the Quick Edit Mode and those are limited. My attempts to use the adjustment functions listed under the Image, More Functions and Pro pull-downs work but only on the entire image and are not limited to the masked areas. I don't know if this is how Sagelight is designed to work or if I am doing something wrong. <br />
<br />
Any advice?<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/291-masking-question/</guid>
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		<title>Painting Effect</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/313-painting-effect/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
In regards to improvements in version 5, can I suggest this:<br />
<br />
To have a more "creative" painting tool.<br />
<br />
In my version (4.2g), we find the <strong class='bbc'>Circle Paint </strong>and <strong class='bbc'>Oil Paint</strong>.<br />
I was wondering if some other effects could be added like: Impasto, watercolor and pastel effects.<br />
<br />
I'd love to use Sagelight to achieve those effects.<br />
<br />
Thanks for considering this.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/313-painting-effect/</guid>
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		<title>How to make a grey sky into a blue sky?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/293-how-to-make-a-grey-sky-into-a-blue-sky/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi together,<br />
I love SL and his functions, but I have not  found yet a solution how to make a grey sky a blue sky.<br />
<br />
Can someone tell me, if and how I can do it with SL.<br />
<br />
In the SL gallery you can find  an example.<br />
<script type="text/javascript">
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	{
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			$$('head').first().insert({ bottom: new Element('script', { type: 'text/javascript',
									        							src:  'http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/js/ips.gallery_bbcode.js',
									        							id:   'gallery_bbcode_script' } ) } );
									        							
			$$('head').first().insert({ bottom: new Element('link',  {  type: 'text/css',
																		rel:  'stylesheet',
									        							href:  'http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_css/css_1/ipgallery_bbcode.css',
									        							media: 'screen',
									        							id:   'gallery_bbcode_css' } ) } );
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	} );
</script>
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	<div style='margin-top: 40px;text-align:center'><img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_images/master/loading.gif' alt='' /></div>
</div><br />
<br />
Thanks in  advance.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/293-how-to-make-a-grey-sky-into-a-blue-sky/</guid>
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		<title>Floating dialog inconsistencies</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/129-floating-dialog-inconsistencies/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[While I don't consider this a bug, this seems to be the best place for it currently.  Perhaps the board needs a "Feature / Enhancement Requests" forum...<br />
<br />
Anyway, I was just playing with the Tone Blender and I noticed a few inconsistencies in the floating windows.<br />
<br />
1.  Some of them don't contain the small "X" in their upper-right corner to close them.  For instance the "Blend Options" and "Color Blending Controls" do not have the "X" but the "Vignette Modes" and "Tone Blender Presets" do.  When the "X" is missing, it seems the only way to close the dialog is to locate the button that opened them originally.  Sometimes that's easier said than done, at least until I get more familiar with the interface.  An "X" on each window would be nice - unless they're intentionally missing for some technical reason.<br />
<br />
2. When I move the dialogs to better see my image, and then close and reopen them, some of them open in their last known location and others open back at their default location.  Since I moved them to see the image I'm working on, it'd be nice if they'd return there when opened again.  Obviously, just for the running instance of the application - it probably doesn't make sense for them to persist through an application restart.<br />
<br />
3. The floating dialog title bar height and font size seems to vary from dialog to dialog.  While that seems odd to me, it may just be a function of the UI libraries used by SL.<br />
<br />
4.  Is the color of the dialog title bar meaningful?  I notice that the "Vignette Modes" title bar is blue while most of the others are gray.  Originally, I assumed the blue one was the last-clicked dialog, but that's not the case.<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Jeff]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 07:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/129-floating-dialog-inconsistencies/</guid>
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		<title>New Masking Crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/317-new-masking-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I had loaded a raw image and was working with masking. I had opened the Advanced masking, selected masking by color and light and then changed to the brush selection to remove those parts of the mask I did not want. When finished I committed the mask, adjusted light and shadows and did an apply. All of that worked properly.<br />
<br />
I then re-opened the masking functionality to mask a different section of the image. I cleared the mask and the crash occurred. Here are the details:<br />
<br />
<br />
Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	00220af0<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0447<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0447586ff668216c1176cfd5cd5ebd6a<br />
  Additional Information 3:	8820<br />
  Additional Information 4:	8820a7207668326cf4a6e33dd3c46161<br />
<br />
Read our privacy statement online:<br />
  <a href='http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409</a><br />
<br />
If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:<br />
  C:&#092;Windows&#092;system32&#092;en-US&#092;erofflps.txt]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/317-new-masking-crash/</guid>
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		<title>The Difference Between the Fast DOF and Bokeh Functions</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/319-the-difference-between-the-fast-dof-and-bokeh-functions/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
<br />
This came up on another discussion board.  I think it is a good general question, so I thought I'd put it here.  Plus, sometimes posting on other boards as the author of software can be a little awkward. <br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Bokeh</strong><br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
The basic difference is that the Bokeh uses a shaped blur, based on the aperture shape you've selected.  This simulates the shape of the aperture in a physical camera, and this is what gives the blur shapes, known as the bloom in Bokeh.   When you adjust the highlights and do other various things to accentuate the highlights, the aperture shape will appear in your image similar to how it does with an actual camera.<br />
<br />
For example, if you have an octogonal shape for the aperture, you will see these shapes in the highlights, just as you will for the circular, triangular, and all other aperture shapes.  When you switch aperture shapes, you will see the shapes in the blur change instantly, and you will also see a general difference in the blur, since the blur is based on the shape. </div><br />
<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Fast Depth of Field</strong><br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
The fast depth of field is extremely fast compared to the shaped blur in the Bokeh, and doesn't use an aperture shape.  Instead the Fast Depth of Field uses a different sort of kernel, similar to a Gaussian Blur.  This gives the depth of field blur a different look, but also allows you to rapidly change the blur and get basically instantaneous results. <br />
<br />
There is a lot of code in the Bokeh to return results very quickly, too, but the Bokeh is a much more intensive process. <br />
<br />
The Bokeh contains a 'Fast DOF' switch so that you can use it, but also so that you can temporarily switch to it when you're setting up your blur, allowing you to have a much faster real-time feedback, after which you can re-select an aperture shape to refine the Bokeh/aperture shape part of the blur. <br />
<br />
A good place for this (using the Fast DOF in place of the Bokeh/aperture-shape blurring) is also when you're editing the mask.  The Fast DOF will give you faster feedback than the Bokeh; the bokeh returns pretty quickly, but the Fast DOF allows for noticeably faster editing. </div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
<br />
In this sense, the Fast Depth of field is a subset of the Bokeh.  The Bokeh has many, many more controls than the Fast DOF, so the Fast DOF is presented as its own function for those that want to just concentrate on creating depth of field blurring without worrying about the bokeh shapes, highlights, and that sort of thing. </div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'>One of the other reasons that the Fast DoF is its own function is because it is extremely fast compared to the Bokeh blur, and I wanted to make sure the differences between the two were noticeable, rather than having such a powerful function as just a switch in an already-comprehensive set of functions.</div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'>So, is there any reason to ever use the Fast Dof if you know you can just throw a switch in the Bokeh to do the same thing?  The answer is yes.  One, there is a switch in the Fast DOF to extend the blur amount.  This allows for twice the radius you can have in the Bokeh -- the Fast DOF radius is more limited in the Bokeh for technical reasons. </div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'>Also, as things are added, the Fast DoF will start to have functions the Bokeh does not.  For example, the Fast DoF and Bokeh both started out to replace the Vignette Blur.  As it turns out, the Vignette Blur is missed.  The Fast DoF does everything the Vignette Blur did and more (a <em class='bbc'>lot more</em>), except for one thing: it does not currently offer a transparency factor to mix with the original image. </div><div class='bbc_indent'>While this doesn't make sense for the Bokeh, this and a few other things will be added to the Fast DoF to make it even more useful as a function on its own.</div><br />
<br />
Anyway, I just thought I'd point out the difference.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/319-the-difference-between-the-fast-dof-and-bokeh-functions/</guid>
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		<title>Subtracting or Difference</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/322-subtracting-or-difference/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Looking thru Help files, etc.  Not found what I need yet.<br />
Where will I find instructions to allow me to subtract one 16-bit image from another?  If I could figure out how to put the second image in a layer of the first image can I then subtract or difference  them?<br />
<br />
I am working on what I call Digital Phantom Leaf Photography. Not the average photo editor kind of thing I suppose, but Sagelight's ability to edit and work with 16-bit TIF files (coming from my old Canon G2 RAW files) is very attractive.  I need to be able to detect and, ultimately, display very small changes in light intensity and 16-bit image data gives me a much larger range of values than 8-bit data, far better capability.<br />
<br />
What I am doing is very similar to subtracting a "correction image" from a second, separate image of interest.  I can give more details if necessary.<br />
<br />
So, can Sagelight subtract one 16-bit image from a separate 16-bit image generating a third image that is the mathematical difference between the two images?  If so, is there a tutorial or help file I haven't found that will explain how?<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Daddymoen]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/322-subtracting-or-difference/</guid>
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		<title>Drop Box</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/321-drop-box/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
I know you're working on the dropbox but in the meantime if anybody needs to send you a larger file they can use Adobe's new service.  <a href='http://success.adobe.com/en/na/sem/services/1109_5958_sendnow.html?sdid=IJCKY&skwcid=TC|22683|adobe%20send%20now||S|p|7335131663' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://success.adobe.com/en/na/sem/services/1109_5958_sendnow.html?sdid=IJCKY&skwcid=TC|22683|adobe%20send%20now||S|p|7335131663</a><br />
<br />
It's great for a single file or a zipped file with multiple images and up to 100 meg for free.<br />
<br />
If your email program will sort incoming mail by subject just create a file fold for dropbox.  My best,<br />
<br />
LL]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/321-drop-box/</guid>
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		<title>Where have the new algorithms come from?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/312-where-have-the-new-algorithms-come-from/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[This is a question for Rob, really, although it'd be great for others to jump in.<br />
<br />
Many of the image adjustments available in Sagelight seem far more sophisticated than the "industry standard" ones you find in programs like PSP and PSE.  Things like the Color Spinner, RGB Adjust, Smart Fill Light, Smart Contrast, Definition, LightBlender, Sagelight Vibrance, etc, don't really have analogous equivalents in those other programs (despite some of them having very similar names).<br />
<br />
My question is: does Sagelight embody the latest advances in industry-recognised image processing algorithms, such that you could learn about them by reading the latest research and academic papers?<br />
<br />
Or are they proprietary inventions of our host, Rob?<br />
<br />
Just wondering!   <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <br />
<br />
Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/312-where-have-the-new-algorithms-come-from/</guid>
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		<title>Repeatable reload failure</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/318-repeatable-reload-failure/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[As I noted in the subject this issue is repeatable. It happens with my Canon RAW files but I would assume it is more general that just my images. Do the following:<br />
<br />
1) Open a RAW file, accept the Quick Edit Pro changes,<br />
2) Save the file as a jpg,<br />
3) Access File -&gt; Reload Raw With Options,<br />
4) Select Normal,<br />
5) Get error message "Sorry, the file cannot be loaded. The file is not a RAW file, is corrupted, or is in a RAW format not supported by this program."<br />
<br />
NOTES:<br />
<br />
1) The actual manner of opening the RAW file in step (1) is not important. The same thing happens if you open the RAW file with Options,<br />
2) The Save format does not matter (I have tested both jpg and tiff and both formats generate the same issue) although you must do the save.<br />
3) The actual reload option selected  (Normal, Highlight Recovery, Normal or Highlight Recover) does not matter,<br />
4) My assumption is (without any evidence) that SL is trying to reload using the last saved file name. Since the file with that name is not RAW SL is complaining. As I said, this is just a guess,<br />
5) I can repeat this sequence (1-5) over and over again and each time I get the same result. But once the error message in step 5 is displayed the reload command in step 3 becomes disabled and you must start again in step 1.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/318-repeatable-reload-failure/</guid>
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		<title>Want to hear from people using Sagelight with MACs</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/326-want-to-hear-from-people-using-sagelight-with-macs/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I was wondering who on the discussion board may be using a MAC with Sagelight? <br />
<br />
A MAC version of Sagelight is just now in the planning stages, and hopefully work on that will start sometime in the next few months. <br />
<br />
In the meantime, I know that a few people run Sagelight on  MAC through various emulators.  At first, it might not seem an emulator would do well, but, since most of the core engine elements of Sagelight are written in SSE2/SSE4 code, and the MAX supports this natively, the only real emulation needed on the MAC are for non-time critical elements of Sagelight. <br />
<br />
If a MAC emulator supports transferring the SSE2/SSE4 to the native processor (and I don't see why it shouldn't), there should be virtually no time penalty for running Sagelight, except for some elements not yet transferred to SSE code. <br />
<br />
I get a lot of letters asking for a MAC version, and this has helped make the decision to get a MAC version out.  Until then, it would be nice to recommend a way to run a MAC version, but recommending an emulator doesn't sound like the best thing to say, either, unless it turns out to be a pretty good way to run it on the MAC in the interim.<br />
<br />
So, it would be great to hear about your experiences running Sagelight on a MAC platform (especially one that supports SSE2 or SSE4 on its native platform).<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/326-want-to-hear-from-people-using-sagelight-with-macs/</guid>
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		<title>Auto-Balancing</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/314-auto-balancing/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hey I just had an inquiry.  I have read and watched the material on use of the auto-balancing function so I feel I got it pretty good. And typically it will always be the first thing I do. And I always play, just messing around to the different modes of balancing and the extra options like the natural skin tones and what not. I usually run through the options quickly and choose the best look to me.<br />
<br />
Now I find that to primarily be the the Auto-Levels(Passive) option. The other options including those in the pro module usually result in color casts of one sort or the other. Auto-levels (passive) usually brings a nice look in comparison to the other options. Is this saying my colors OOC are accurate and that auto-color serves me no purpose typically? Is it just the type of pictures I'm working with? <br />
<br />
Primarily I work on improving my candids of my wife and kids or working with portraits to make them more attentive to the subject. Is it because skin is what I'm usually looking at? Maybe auto-colors benefits landscape shots as was used as example in the tutorial vids? <br />
<br />
Should I stick with something that may look "off" at first and then go and play with the color spinner? <br />
<br />
Or am I on the right path by going with what "looks right" in the balancing options and then go from there? I assume so but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something that could be beneficial.<br />
<br />
My preferred subject is landscapes though my life at the moment is very hectic and I don't get to shoot outside often even. But I will be when I can get some time! Will it be then when working with say landscapes that I may see the other auto options doing more for me?<br />
<br />
I'm not using it incorrectly am I?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/314-auto-balancing/</guid>
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		<title>Disappearing plugins</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/324-disappearing-plugins/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have noticed that from time to time Sagelight seems to lose my Topaz plugins. They are not really lost, of course, but the folder entry for them disappears from the plugin Filter Directories and hence SL does not list them as available until I reset the folder address. The same time this happens I also suddenly find that the load time animation, which I turned off in the settings, reappears and I have to clear the entry again.<br />
<br />
Today was the second time (I think - perhaps the third) that this happened to me and I was wondering two things: Has anyone else seen this happen? and Does SL do any automatic updating that would affect this? I know it is happening to me but I just don't know why.<br />
<br />
There is one possibility. Yesterday, in order to remove one possible cause for a masking crash, Steve Ellsworth suggested that I might turn off the video card usage on my system. My laptop has a software switch that chooses between the Intel video functionality and the distinct NVIDIA video card functionality. Turning the video card off would change the way SL starts (I think), but I did not think that would cause a problem like this. Any thoughts?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/324-disappearing-plugins/</guid>
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		<title>Sagelight resizing</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/316-sagelight-resizing/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been trying to save an image with an overexposed sky by passing it through an HDR program. My initial attempt was to use CS5, load the original image, save tiff outputs at -4, -3, -1 and 0 and then put them together with my HDR program (SNS-HDR). This resulted in a decent image, but the sky was still overexposed. Since CS5 could not adjust the exposure more than 4 stops I next thought to add an image from Sagelight by loading it with Highlight Protection and adding that image to the others for the HDR program.<br />
<br />
But when I tried this I found that the HDR program would not accept the Sagelight image. It told me that the images were not all the same size. When I examined them I found that the original RAW image was 5184 x 3456 as were all of the adjusted CS5 tiff images. However the Sagelight image, written out after loading it with Highlight Protection, was 5202 x 3465. In other words Sagelight changed both the horizontal and vertical resolution. My first thought was that there must be some setting that would allow me to set the output image size so that it matched the original size but I could not find any such setting. Can anyone tell me why Sagelight re-sized the image and how to turn that re-sizing off? Or if Sagelight re-sizing an image without being asked is a defect? Perhaps this should be posted in the defect forum?<br />
<br />
Thanks.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/316-sagelight-resizing/</guid>
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		<title>save settings check box</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/315-save-settings-check-box/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I tend to use the same settings when sharpening. I would be nice to have a "Save current settings" check box.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/315-save-settings-check-box/</guid>
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		<title>All of those  smirking, sunglasses-wearing smileys in my posts</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/323-all-of-those-smirking-sunglasses-wearing-smileys-in-my-posts/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I just thought I'd make a note of this... There are a lot of <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> smiley's in my posts.. <br />
<br />
This is because I tend to list points a lot with a,b, and c points with "a), b ) and c)", etc.  When I get to the "b )", this discussion board inserts a <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> smiley.  Just to let everyone know that it isn't a) me being sarcastic and <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> ... well, you know.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/323-all-of-those-smirking-sunglasses-wearing-smileys-in-my-posts/</guid>
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		<title>Bug with Undo Brush?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/329-bug-with-undo-brush/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[1.  Make changes to original picture (could be anything)<br />
2.  Go to undo brush<br />
3.  Fill with undo buffer<br />
4.  Use Subtract Undo in brush area<br />
5.  Start using brush<br />
6.  Move merge percent slider<br />
7.  All changes have been undone<br />
<br />
What I expected to happen was the changes would be saved over and using the merge percent to have a more subtle effect...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/329-bug-with-undo-brush/</guid>
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		<title>Some thought (and questions) on revamping the Quick Edit Mode</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/295-some-thought-and-questions-on-revamping-the-quick-edit-mode/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
I am in the middle of researching a number of items for the upcoming revamp of the Quick Edit interface.  I have mentioned this on other threads, about the intention to change the Power Box to be co-equal with the Quick Edit Mode, as well as make other changes that make Sagelight even easier to use. <br />
<br />
With that, I have also been looking at the idea of what are the most powerful tools, and what things don't need to be in the UI.  For example, you may have noticed that there are a lot of little switches in the UI.  For example, the Power Box has Contrast has a Soft and Harsh Mode, and the Vibrance has a mixture slider, and so-forth. <br />
<br />
A lot of that is because this was new technology a year or so ago when I put it many of these items in, and it was hard to know which options were better or necessary.  The 'Soft' and 'Harsh' switch on the contrast, for example, aren't really needed -- they will disappear and only reappear when you select the expert options level.  The same is also true of the Range Slider in the same area.  Both of these are useful options, but time has shown that they aren't used very much and, therefore, don't really need to be presented unless you're looking for the full scope of functionality -- this is always how I planned Sagelight, to do simple things and then to have a number of options on those things, but only if you want to use them or see them. <br />
<br />
This is also where my question comes in, and it would be great to hear what you think.  My main goal with the UI is to keep it powerful but to also not make it complicated.  The last year of adding functionality has been great, and now it is more clear than ever what tools work well with others, and which ones should be put more in the background as secondary options. <br />
<br />
As I mentioned, I don't want to make Sagelight more cluttered, either, and, in fact want to make it less cluttered.   Here is an example of a set of sliders/controls that I am finding work very well together<br />
<br />
1. Fill Light<br />
3. Low-Tone Contrast<br />
2. Smart Contrast<br />
3. Midtone Contrast (aka Smart Contrast in the Smart Light functions, but is basically an intelligent midtone contrast)<br />
4. Definition Slider 1 (being renamed to 'Definition');<br />
5. Definition Slider 2 (being renamed to 'Focus');<br />
6. Sharpen Slider (doesn't exist yet, but I don't like it being a switch on the definition sliders)<br />
<br />
With just these sliders, you can make an amazing difference in your image -- I have finally figured out how to bring in the midtone contrast functionality (it analyzes the image and is memory-intensive, so has not been in the Quick Edit Mode), and this with the Low-Tone Slider and Fill Light can do powerful things with your image. <br />
<br />
Similarly, having the TWO definition sliders (i.e. the first one is very similar to Clarity in Lightroom, where the second is a different thing) work extremely well together, and I can't see Sagelight without them both being available. <br />
<br />
<br />
So, my question is this: <br />
<br />
What do you think about sliders like "Low Tone Contrast","Smart Contrast","Midtone Contrast", and "Fill Light" all next to each other?  They are a logical grouping, and using them in a visceral sense has shown to be a very powerful combination. <br />
<br />
One the Midtone Contrast is put in, this will be one of the more powerful features in Sagelight suddenly accessible without having to leave the Quick Edit Mode. <br />
<br />
I don't want to just have a ton of sliders on the main page, but I want to make sure the tools that work together well in realtime are there, too. <br />
<br />
It would be great to hear what you think about that -- I am looking at streamlining the interface to make room for more controls -- the Quick Edit Panel will be on the left, and the Power Box on the right, with the image in the center.  The Light Blender will be a TAB on the Quick Edit Panel, and there will be a button to also group the Power Box as a tab, as well, so that that area can be used by the image itself (so there would then be three tabs, for the Main Controls (i.e. current Quick Edit Pane), Power Box, and Light Blender). <br />
<br />
Your thoughts would be great.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/295-some-thought-and-questions-on-revamping-the-quick-edit-mode/</guid>
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		<title>On Bitmap Files and DPI</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/331-on-bitmap-files-and-dpi/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've been having problems opening .bmp files after editing them with Sagelight.<br />
<br />
I have scanned pictures at 600 DPI on my scanner and saved them as bitmap files. I made some adjustments on them in Sagelight, and saved them as bitmaps again (with different file name in order to keep the original file). I then tried opening the files that were edited with Sagelight in some other programs, and they could not open the files. I even tried Windows XP Paint, and it refused to open the files. I have no problems opening the originals in any program. When I compared the originals to the edited files I found that the originals had a horizontal and vertical resolution of 599 DPI (in Windows File Properties), and the edited files had a resolution of 96 DPI. I then tried editing an original again and saving it as a .tiff file, but had the same problem of not being able to open them in some other programs.<br />
<br />
GIMP will open the .tiff files. Upon opening the .tiff it informs me that the file is a higher bit depth than it is capable of and some image info will be lost (which I expect since Sagelight is 48-bit). I have no clues as to why the edited .bmp files will not open though.<br />
<br />
I don't know if there's something wrong with the Sagelight edited bitmaps or if it is just saving them at a higher quality than other programs can read. If the latter is the case, I can live with it and just do everything with Sagelight. It's a great program!  <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/331-on-bitmap-files-and-dpi/</guid>
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		<title>Batch Processing</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/328-batch-processing/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
<br />
Would it be possible Rob to include in the pro version of Sagelight a batch processing function for supported raw files to convert into jpeg and go through an automatic photo edit using your editor?  This could be a paid plug in or a plug in you develop which might work with other programs.  It would be highly useful program for those of us who shoot a bunch or pics at one time and want to see what we have to choose and pic.  Thanks and my best,<br />
<br />
LL]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/328-batch-processing/</guid>
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		<title>saving files</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/309-saving-files/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I'm a new Sagelight user. After developing a RAW file I use &lt;Save File&gt; under the FILE menu. JPG is the default however sometimes I wish to save as a TIF. Selecting TIF from the drop down and OK does save as a TIFF. However, the file name does not change to filexxx.tif from filexxx.jpg in the naming box unless I manually make the change. Experimentation has shown that the file is indeed saved as a TIF whether I make the change or not. <br />
<br />
This is a bit confusing. The file name should change to the selected type automatically.<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/309-saving-files/</guid>
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		<title>TIFF + EXIF</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/335-tiff-exif/</link>
		<description>.</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/335-tiff-exif/</guid>
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		<title>Issue with Sagelight Gallery?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/337-issue-with-sagelight-gallery/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I found this post on the dpreview forum. I don't know if it is true or not but I wanted to post it here just in case and also wanted also to let Rob know of this in case it is a real issue. In summary the poster says that there is a virus in one of images on the Sagelight web site. I don't pay attention to the gallery (I found that Sagelight has allowed me to make my own very nice images) and have no idea if the post is correct.<br />
<br />
<a href='http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=40720851' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://forums.dprevi...essage=40720851</a><br />
<br />
I am not trying to frighten people but IF the poster is correct I did want browsers to be forewarned and let Rob know so he could remove it.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/337-issue-with-sagelight-gallery/</guid>
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		<title>Clone brush suggestions</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/334-clone-brush-suggestions/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Any chance you could add an overlay for the clone brush like in FS image viewer?  It makes it so much easier to line up things such as walls and hairlines.  As of right now, you're basically just guessing.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/334-clone-brush-suggestions/</guid>
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		<title>Another masking crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/339-another-masking-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
Had another masking crash. In this case I did the following:<br />
<br />
1) loaded a raw image with Options (Normal And Highlight Recovery Mix),<br />
2) Accepted the settings and changed to Quick Edit Mode,<br />
3) Opened the masking functionality to draw a mask,<br />
4) Drew the mask - Sagelight seemed to "freeze". I was unable to get the masking brush to move at all by moving the laptop touchpad.<br />
--&gt; I assumed Sagelight had stopped working, but when I started Windows Task Master it told me Sagelight was still operating. <br />
--&gt;  Something was going on but the Performance graphs did not show the system particularly busy (about 30% for some of the cores)<br />
--&gt;  I gave it more time (about 45-60 seconds in total) trying to move the cursor and re-opening the Task Master. It still told me Sagelight was working,<br />
--&gt;  Finally the screen showed the cursor active again, but moving the cursor prior to this had affected the outlines of the drawn mask so I cleared the mask to re-draw it,<br />
--&gt; When I attempted to again draw the mask I got the crash. Here is the info<br />
<br />
<br />
Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	0021bac6<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
  Additional Information 3:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
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I will try doing the same thing again from scratch to see if I again get the same results.<br />
<br />
EDITED:<br />
<br />
A couple of points<br />
<br />
1) When I tried to reproduce this I again got the "freeze" when painting the mask. I was creating a mask in the same area as before and again the mask cursor just stopped. Again the Windows Task Master told me the program was running so again I gave it plenty of time. This time it took about 90 seconds before it became responsive again, but this time it did not crash,<br />
<br />
2) I tried a different image. Again I loaded the raw image with Protection. This image needed noise reduction and, since I have Topaz DeNoise configured in Sagelight, I called it. After applying the DeNoise settings (Topaz OK) I got the Topaz indication of processing and, when Topaz told me it had finished processing the image and returned to Sagelight, Sagelight again seemed to "freeze" although this time the cursor moved without issue. I could not do anything in Sagelight since clicking had no result, but the cursor freely moved. Finally, again after about 60 seconds, the adjusted image from the Topaz plugin finally loaded and Sagelight worked again without issue. I have used the Topaz plugins without issue before and this "freezing" is new to me with Sagelight (but see the next comment).<br />
<br />
3) My machine is a Dell XPS laptop and runs a 4 core chip with 8GB of memory and a separate NVIDIA M540 video card with 2GB of graphics memory. Dell sells these machines with a software switch that allows the user to configure whether to use the Intel Integrated Graphics or the NVIDIA graphics card for any particular piece of software. Several weeks ago I had other issues with Sagelight and, based on the recommendation of one of the other posters in this forum, I changed the setting on my machine from NVIDIA to Intel Integrated Graphics and that was the setting when these things happened. Since the Intel Integrated graphics is probably slower I switched back after these issues and will see if the "freeze" issue disappears. While the slower operation of the Intel Graphics may explain why Sagelight took so long to complete its operations it still seems that 60 seconds is a long time for drawing a relatively small mask or reloading a denoised image.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/339-another-masking-crash/</guid>
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		<title>Printing problems</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/341-printing-problems/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Tried printing today and was unable to switch printer to other than default. Default is a Samsung laser. I do my photo printing on an Epson R1900. Made all the changes in the Printer Setup box but they were gone (back to default) when I tried to print. Ended up having to save the file and print from another app.<br />
<br />
When I get a chance I'll try switching the default to the R1900.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/341-printing-problems/</guid>
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		<title>Crash using LightBlender</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/340-crash-using-lightblender/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
<br />
This does not appear to be a good day for me to be using Sagelight. Here is what happened.<br />
<br />
1) Loaded an image with Protection (Normal And Highlight Recovery Mix),<br />
2) Accepted the Sagelight settings,<br />
3) Opened the Power Box controls,<br />
4) Adjusted the LightBlender Strength setting,<br />
5) Began adjusting the individual Equalizer Settings. First the right-most adjustment, then the lest-most adjustment. Sagelight crashed. Here is the info.<br />
<br />
<br />
Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	StackHash_0a9e<br />
  Fault Module Version:	0.0.0.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	00000000<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	00000049<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
  Additional Information 3:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
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In this case I had set the graphics settings on my XPS back to the NVIDIA graphics display and that was active for this crash (see previous crash report today for details about the Intel Integrated and NVIDIA Graphics Card settings). Perhaps I should stop adjusting photos for today ...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/340-crash-using-lightblender/</guid>
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		<title>Odd Saving Name Behavior</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/343-odd-saving-name-behavior/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been doing some SL processing and noticed something that seems odd to me. Odd enough to think that this is a bug.<br />
<br />
When I first downloaded and installed Sagelight it came with a setting for Appended Saved File Extension. I set this to _SL and pretty much  left it alone after that. When processing an image from my 7D I would get the following:<br />
<br />
Input - IMG_0002.CR2,<br />
jpg output - IMG_002_SL.jpg,<br />
tiff output - IMG_002_SL.tif<br />
<br />
All well and good. No problem. Exactly what I expected. Yesterday I edited the settings to not append any extension to the outputs. That is I set the Appended Saved File Extension to blank. I expected that the outputs would be named IMG_002.jpg and IMG_002.tif, but what I got was the following:<br />
<br />
jpg output - IMG_0002.CR2.jpg<br />
tiff output - IMG_0002.CR2.TIF<br />
<br />
Surely this is wrong. Why am I getting the CR2 appended to the output file name? Or is Sagelight designed to do this?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/343-odd-saving-name-behavior/</guid>
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		<title>TIFF image files not loading with (or saving with) EXIF data</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/94-tiff-image-files-not-loading-with-or-saving-with-exif-data/</link>
		<description>When i open a TIFF image file in Sagelight, the date the picture was taken etc is not loading or saving with the image. I assume this is the EXIF data?</description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/94-tiff-image-files-not-loading-with-or-saving-with-exif-data/</guid>
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		<title>Microsoft HD View</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/345-microsoft-hd-view/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Thought that this might interest some people.<br />
<br />
It is a set of free tools from Microsoft that allows people to publish large photos to the web<br />
<br />
The web site is <a href='http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/HDView/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/HDView/</a><br />
<br />
Here is an extract from the website that explains what it does.<br />
<br />
HD View is a new viewer developed by Microsoft Research's Interactive Visual Media group to aid in the display and interaction with very large images. The HDView development team included Johannes Kopf, Matt Uyttendaele, Howard Good, and Michael Cohen along with Jonathan Fay of the Next Media group.<br />
<br />
Recent advances in camera and sensor technology and software for stitching images together has led to the creation of images containing billions of pixels (gigapixels). These images are often panoramic, that is, they cover very wide fields of view. Since monitors typically contain only one to two million pixels, it is only possible to actually see 1/1000th of such image data at once. Also, viewing very wide fields of view require unwrapping of an image projected onto a curved surface (think of a map of the world) which can cause distortions.<br />
<br />
HD View leverages current graphics hardware to allow smooth panning and zooming as well as the viewing transformation described below.<br />
<br />
HD View was developed with a number of goals in mind. It should:<br />
<br />
    allow smooth panning and zooming on large images,<br />
    only download enough data to create the current view (and possibly look ahead to the next), and<br />
    always display the current field of view with an appropriate projection. This means that when zoomed way in you should be presented with a standard perspective projection providing a sense of immersion, and when zoomed out you experience a curved projection so that get a full overview of the scene. In between the projection should smoothly transition.<br />
    Finally, it should be easy to create your own HD View content and present it to the world via the web.<br />
<br />
The HD View plugin currently supports all major browsers on the Windows platform.  The first time that you visit a page with HD View content you will be prompted to install the HD View plugin.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/345-microsoft-hd-view/</guid>
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		<title>Tweaking your Toys Sensor</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/342-tweaking-your-toys-sensor/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Over time I have seen a lot of people referring to exposure issues so I thought I would throw this out for general consumption.<br />
Digital cameras often come with factory settings that really screw things up. So if you have noticed that you are having problems with highlights being burnt out then it's time to set your sensor.<br />
Depending on the camera there will (or should be) a method of reducing the sensor sensitivity. This is a bit different than working with the "film speed" ISO, etc..<br />
How you accomplish this will vary. If you don't have a clue where to start dig out the manual. If that doesn't work try Google. Some things are not in print. <br />
If you don't have a semi pro or professional camera you may not be able to do this at all so never mind!<br />
<br />
To test, go out and find yourself some sun dogs to shoot. Push your camera to the limits to see how it is behaving. In this shot I have left the brightest light source in plain view along with the objects which were in shadow.<br />
Although the image has suffered a bit in the screen capture / reduction process you should be able to see that the nasty white stuff (snow) is in good shape as is the sky, and there are details in the shadows. <br />
This was shot with no addon's or tricks. Just a well tweaked sensor. <br />
The short of it is, if your camera is not performing optimally you won't ever get the results you want because when the data is burnt up there is no reclaiming it.<br />
<br />
In the good old days when we did this with film this process was called exposing for the highlights. Film had a lot more latitude (forgiveness) Digital cameras are not so friendly.<br />
So, practice getting your cameras in tune with the brightest portions of your scene (sky - etc) then bring up the rest with your compliment of sliders.<br />
<br />
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<br />
SLE]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/342-tweaking-your-toys-sensor/</guid>
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		<title>Should the Vignette Blur be Brought back as a separate function?</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/325-should-the-vignette-blur-be-brought-back-as-a-separate-function/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
<br />
With the last release, I replaced the Vignette Blur with the Fast DoF and Bokeh functions.<br />
<br />
The basic direct replacement for the Vignette Blur is the Fast DoF.  As I mentioned in another thread, the Fast DoF does everything the Vignette Blur did, but a whole lot more (except the transparency factor, but that is going to be added soon). <br />
<br />
But, I know that the Vignette Blur was used, and the Fast Depth of Field function may just obscure the point of the Vignette Blur.<br />
<br />
I am wondering if the thought is that I should bring back the Vignette Blur to do the specific function that the old one did: that is, to blur your image with a vignette, a blur factor, and a transparency factor, but that's it -- this would make this function more specific and distinctive so that you wouldn't need to deal with the extra set of controls that eclipse the Vignette Blur controls.<br />
<br />
I don't want to overload Sagelight with functions that aren't useful or overlap too much, so I don't want to just add things without thinking about them. <br />
<br />
So, I thought I'd ask what you think about it, to get an idea of who wants to see it reappear vs. using the Fast DoF for the same thing.<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[DNG's and re-edting images]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/333-dngs-and-re-edting-images/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi there.. you have a really nice product and I am currently evaluating it... I do have a few questions I was hoping you could advise me with....<br />
<br />
1 - I currently use Idimager as my DAM and along with Lightroom - it works fairly well.  I convert my images to DNG so that all work done in LR is shown in the embedded preview within that file (thus viewable from Idimager and Windows).  I was wondering if the same can be done with Sagelight?  Or is sagelight just an editor in that all changes must be written to a "destructive" format (ie: jpg/tiff) and the original RAW file sent to it is then always left as is?<br />
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2 - I cannot find a way to save the edits that I make to my DNG files... ie: sidecar or embedded within the file.  In LR, I can update the metadata within the DNG which writes the "recipe" into the file... the next time I load the file, the edits are still shown.  I guess I was hoping that with Sagelight, I could just open the file again from Idimager if I wanted to make further edits to it using the last group of edits as a starting point.  In that way, I could say correct the image up front (ie: exposure, cropping, etc) and then months later just say convert to B&W but still have the original edits as my starting point.  I can easily do this with LR... does this work with Sagelight?<br />
<br />
Wish too that we were able to send in multiple photos and then copy/paste settings between them while still individually tweaking them along the way...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/333-dngs-and-re-edting-images/</guid>
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		<title>Difficulty with 3rd-party filter</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/258-difficulty-with-3rd-party-filter/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[If anyone can shed some light on an issue I'm having I'd greatly appreciate it. Even if I dopn't find a way to correct my issue, at least I'll have some closure about a possible upgrade I'm attempting to implement to my workflow. Since finding I get incredibly better conversions using Sagelight over my previous (View NX/2), or any of the converters I trial-ran (Lightroom 3; Capture NX/2, Silkypix), I've decided to try and keep everything in Sagelight from conversion to print-ready TIFF <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>My problem:</strong> I have the stand-alone version of Imaginomic's NoiseWare noise reduction tool. I'm shooting with a Nikon, often in low-light conditions. Erm...my Nikon is an out-dated crop-sensor one - making NR vital to me! Currently, when I save the image after running it through NoiseWare when I save as a TIFF it converts it to an 8-bit image. This is a huge problem for me. So, I took the time to figure out how to install the trial-plugin properly into Sagelight (methinks!) and did so.<br />
<br />
All good, right? Nope. The moment I try opening NoiseWare filter from Sagelight's plugin menu, Sagelight decides it doesn't want to stay with me. It crashes. MY theory is, NoiseWare requires an 8-bit working environment to operate, and the fact that I'm running in a 48-bit environment (RAW file) is what causes the crash. However, in Photoshop one is able to select running in either an 8 or a 16-bit environment, and I believe the plugin was built with this program (PS) in mind! I have not tested this theory as of yet. Any words of assistance? Anyone at all? Thanks!<br />
<br />
~Danny<br />
<a href='http://dbiphotography.co.cc' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://dbiphotography.co.cc</a><br />
<a href='http://www.modelinsider.com/8040' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.modelinsider.com/8040</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/258-difficulty-with-3rd-party-filter/</guid>
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		<title>Clone brush crash/freeze</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/350-clone-brush-crashfreeze/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
Sorry if this is discussed elsewhere, but I found no mention on searching.  Using the latest version I find that when using the clone brush all works well until I try to select a new source point, which does not work. At this time all other buttons/menus are locked out, the only thing I can do is Accept the changes then reopen and continue with cloning.<br />
Adrian]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/350-clone-brush-crashfreeze/</guid>
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		<title>Masks and Cloning</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/347-masks-and-cloning/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I'm currently evaluating Sagelight, and I'm very impressed. However, Sagelight may not have what I need as far as cloning and masking are concerned. I mostly shoot raw and use Lightroom or Nikon Capture NX2 to edit my files. NX2 has decent masking, but no cloning at all. Lightroom's cloning and masking are very weak. There must be quite a few photographers like me who want more editing power but don't want to pay over $600 for Photoshop. It would be great if Sagelight filled that need.<br />
<br />
To be more specific, I am attaching a photo of a ring I took. All I want to do is remove the clamp. Can I do this in Sagelight?<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Skin Tones I can't figure out.]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/344-skin-tones-i-cant-figure-out/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Changing skin tone values has never been an issue but I ran into one last night that has me and a few others stumped.<br />
For some reason I am not able to figure out how a skin tone shift was accomplished. You can see the effect on the dual pic in the gallery.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
This should have been an easy thing in SL as tweaking skin tones is not an issue. As evidenced in one of the grab shots i posted next to it.<br />
<br />
This shift is somewhere in the 85n9 range.<br />
<br />
But I can't hit it.<br />
Any one have a clue???<br />
<br />
No room to post pics here yet - sorry to make you click over.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/344-skin-tones-i-cant-figure-out/</guid>
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		<title>Thank You!</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/346-thank-you/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am loving SageLight!  Last month I got a new Panasonic m4/3 camera, and knew going in that I would need to shoot raw for best results.  So, I proceeded to look for a raw processor that was easy to use with great output.  After extensive time spent learning Raw Therapee, Silky Pix and Capture One, I STILL get the best results by just letting SageLight do its thing!  I am really amazed!  For someone like me who is struggling in this new image processing world, SageLight is a true blessing! <br />
  <br />
Anyway, just a little note of thanks!<br />
<br />
Flaming June - patiently waiting on batch processing ;-)]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[UPDATE 03/16/12: Intermittent false McAfee 'alerts' (now resolved)]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/351-update-031612-intermittent-false-mcafee-alerts-now-resolved/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Update to Yesterday's Note:<br />
<br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Everything is now back to normal: green across the board with McAfee, and no more false-positives on the forum (<em class='bbc'>this issue never applied to the main site (www.sagelighteditor.com), the blog, or the gallery</em>). </span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>As I mentioned, I called McAfee about it.  I also wrote them.   I didn't get very far with customer service, but they did promise to forward my request to expedite the matter to the right department.   Within an hour of that call, the problem was gone, but McAfee still had sagelightforum.com as "untested". </span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>This morning, everything is fine, and McAfee has corrected the problem and listed sagelightforum as tested and greenlit. </span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>I very much appreciate McAfee's attention to the matter, especially with such a short turnaround, where their website suggested that problems such as this could take 10 days to resolve.  As we all know, 10 days of being falsely reported as a "dangerous site" can cause significant damage to a business.  This is why I am very grateful for McAfee's prompt attention.</span></span><br />
 <br />
<br />
Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
Apparently there have been some intermittent alerts about the forum site (www.sagelightforum.com, not the main site, blog, or gallery). <br />
<br />
I have contacted McAfee about it, and the problem now seems to be gone and there are no more reports.  If you receive any further reports through McAfee, please let me know.  These are, indeed, false, and I have checked the site thoroughly multiple times over the last few weeks to make sure nothing is going on with the site, scripts, and so-forth. <br />
<br />
This forum generates a couple cookies, just to keep you logged in if you are a member, and I don't believe generates any (maybe 1) if you are not a member or logged in. <br />
<br />
McAfee has all other sagelight sites as green, and other checkers such as AVG, Avast,. etc. have all sites listed as green and checked.  McAfee has determined all downloads to be completely fine.  Here is a link to the McAfee report on the downloads: <br />
<br />
<a href='http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/sagelighteditor.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.siteadvis...lighteditor.com</a><br />
<br />
Anyway, I just thought I'd clear up any confusion that may have happened over the issue.  All in all, McAfee is a great source, and they handled this issue within a couple hours of my e-mail. <br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/351-update-031612-intermittent-false-mcafee-alerts-now-resolved/</guid>
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		<title>Letter from McAfee</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/352-letter-from-mcafee/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
I just thought I'd share this e-mail. As I mentioned in my previous post, McAfee was very prompt on the issue.  I just received this today (after everything had been taken care of)<br />
<div class='bbc_indent'><br />
<br />
<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Hello Mr. Nelson,<br />
<br />
Thank you for your request.  <br />
<br />
We experienced a temporary issue yesterday. <br />
<br />
This issue affected sagelightforum.com, causing the temporary blocking of this site.<br />
<br />
The issue was addressed and resolved within hours.  The SiteAdvisor rating of this site is Green.<br />
<br />
Sincerely,<br />
<br />
Kyoko<br />
<br />
Customer Response Team - North America<br />
<br />
McAfee, Inc.</div></div><br />
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</div><span style='font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Rob</span></span><br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/352-letter-from-mcafee/</guid>
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		<title>Nikon Raw files - NRW</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/336-nikon-raw-files-nrw/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
Whilst I normally shoot with Nikon NEF Raw files with my DSLR, I have a Coolpix P7100 which saves Raw files with a NRW extension.  At present, Sagelight does not support this raw format and I was wondering if it is likley to in the future?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Trevor]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/336-nikon-raw-files-nrw/</guid>
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		<title>Perspective overlay grid</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/353-perspective-overlay-grid/</link>
		<description>Using the perspective plug-in with the overlay grid. The grid is saved! Now I have to go back and start over.</description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/353-perspective-overlay-grid/</guid>
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		<title>Cliplets</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/354-cliplets/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I found this on the net. Thought that it might interest some people.<br />
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<a href='http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/cliplets/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/cliplets/</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Cliplets - Where Still Images and Videos Collide<br />
<br />
According to researchers at Microsoft, images aren't just classified into the still and moving sort.  There's also a third kind, which they've termed a Cliplet.<br />
<br />
Imagine, if you will, a still image that's taken from a single frame of a movie, but with one small area of the screen that still contains the full moving version.  In the classic example on Microsoft's web site, there's a scene of a fountain with people walking past.  The main part of the Cliplet consists of a still image showing motionless people in a neat pose.  And yet the fountain continues to flow.  <br />
<br />
If you're a keen producer of digital images or video, and you want to explore this potential new way of presenting your work, check out the Microsoft web site. You can find out more, and download a free program to create your own Cliplets, at <a href='http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/cliplets/.' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/cliplets/.</a>   The program runs only on Windows 7, and is available in 32- and 64-bit flavours.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/354-cliplets/</guid>
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		<title>Organizing the Manual</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/305-organizing-the-manual/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone,<br />
<br />
This discussion sort of accidentally got an impromptu start in the thread about Pro Saturation. Rob agrees that it would be OK to start this new thread. It will inform everyone at once and, hopefully, encourage participation of community members. <br />
<br />
Brief background: As I fell more and more in love with Sage, I became concerned about the documentation. There is a good deal of it out there but it must be found and, in some cases, edited and reorganized. When prime time hits, the documentation should accompany it in order to insure the broadest audience. Since I have some of the necessary skills, and currently have some time available, I offered to help. Rob graciously accepted. Now, because I have yet to master the extensive quoting options on the board, I need to do some cut and paste. These will appear next as separate posts and do not include ALL of the discussion (anyone so inclined can visit the most recent Pro Sat thread).<br />
<br />
Jean]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/305-organizing-the-manual/</guid>
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		<title>Gradient Tool??</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/358-gradient-tool/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else feel the need for a gradient tool in an upcoming version?<br />
<br />
Jean]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/358-gradient-tool/</guid>
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		<title>Dodge And Burn Crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/362-dodge-and-burn-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Started Sagelight, loaded a raw image, found blown highlights, re-opened the image with mix of highlight and normal protection, accepted settings, sharpened the image, applied and accepted vignette blurring and accidentally opened the Dodge And Burn settings. Cancelled that window and got this crash.<br />
<br />
For what it is worth, after the crash, I found that I had lost my internet connection and could not get it back. I do not know if this happened before the crash (and perhaps caused it), during the crash or as a result of the crash. I am only reporting it. I am beginning to feel like Casandra ...<br />
<br />
Here is the crash info:<br />
<br />
<br />
Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Fault Module Name:	Sagelight.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ed8f666<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	00252bf3<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
  Additional Information 3:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
<br />
Read our privacy statement online:<br />
  <a href='http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409</a><br />
<br />
If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:<br />
  C:&#092;Windows&#092;system32&#092;en-US&#092;erofflps.txt]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/362-dodge-and-burn-crash/</guid>
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		<title>i phone 4s Photos</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/361-i-phone-4s-photos/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob & Fellow Users,<br />
<br />
I just got a new i phone 4s and decided to try and upload to edit one of my first photos with Sagelight.  My HP PC recognized the camera as a device but Sagelight refused to upload the photo from the camera for editing.  I copied the photo to the hard drive and then opened it in Sagelight and edited it.  Interesting and a new programming problem for our favorite programmer.<br />
<br />
Also, I suggest a direct url link under Sagelight to the discussion board on the main menu bar.  Saves time when needed.  Thanks and my best,<br />
<br />
LL]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/361-i-phone-4s-photos/</guid>
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		<title>The Upcoming Sagelight Releases (with examples)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/330-the-upcoming-sagelight-releases-with-examples/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob<br />
<br />
How you doing? Busy coding I suspect <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
<br />
I was wondering when the next release of Sagelight will be here? I suspect very soon and so can I ask you to consider 3 wishes that I'd love to have included:<br />
<br />
1) Fix the problem where saving to Tiffs looses the Exif data, i.e date taken etc.<br />
<br />
2) A remember settings check box in the crop tools floating window, so that the next time the tool is used (say on the next image) the same settings from last time can be used.<br />
<br />
2a) Ability to be able to control the crop selection by keyboard too before applying. This would really help to fine tune the result.<br />
<br />
3) And possibly a favourites bar too, where you can store your favourite tools for easier finding?<br />
<br />
Ok I know that's 4 wishes, but 3 wishes did sound better, lol<br />
<br />
Keep up the good work buddy<br />
<br />
Sagelight fan]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/330-the-upcoming-sagelight-releases-with-examples/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[ICC Profile &#34;Unknown&#34; when opening RAW Image]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/265-icc-profile-unknown-when-opening-raw-image/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've loaded many RAW images in RAW previously, and I've loaded many of my own previously. However, I've recenly decided to do all my converting and retouching in Sagelight from RAW and on, and I had a bit of a bad experience yesterday. I shoot Nikon Adobe RGB, but when I loaded my images in Sagelight failed to 'see' the ICC Profile - and I must surmise it set its own version of sRGB as the workspace. The skin-tones are visibly less realistic than my work usually, and...well...this is a pretty big problem for me. I'm going to be trying a few things to see what I can do to find a work-around, but any suggestions or posts that can enlighten me would be greatly appreciated! I'm running Sagelight 4.2g - and I'm off NOW to see if there's a newer update available!<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>IMHO alone, as always;</strong><br />
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~Danny<br />
<a href='http://dbiphotography.co.cc' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://dbiphotography.co.cc</a><br />
<a href='http://www.modelinsider.com/8040' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.modelinsider.com/8040</a><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Edit:</strong> I HAVE indeed found a work-around for this issue - where Nikon NEFs are concerned, at least. It should be noted that in the past this was NOT an issue, and I was loading many RAW images which had non-standard ICC Profile's which Sagelight viewed and rendered ideally (from what I could tell).<br />
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I open my NEF in View NX/2, and make any little change. It doesn't much matter, because Sagelight doesn't "see" my changes anyways, it's only so I can go through the motions of writing to the file using another converter (the embedded jpeg), therefore somehow "locking-in" the file's EXIF information. Wait a minute...did I just find...nope. Still writing the image-proportions incorrectly <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />  (Sagelight)  Bah...one thing at a time! On a related note, I've shown others side-by-side comparisons of VNX/2 & LR3 & Sagelight, and it blew their minds! One woman, schooled and trained in CS5, is now investigating Sagelight for use when doing some of her photography!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CLAHE (Contrast Limited Adaptive Histogram Equalization) in Sagelight</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/259-clahe-contrast-limited-adaptive-histogram-equalization-in-sagelight/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone. <br />
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When I am more in development mode (such as now), I tend to post less on the discussion board.   <br />
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This is because I am focusing on development, and its harder to spontaneously post about things other than whatever I am focused on.  In this case, it's the CLAHE HDR implementation and the Lanczos resizing that are the primary subjects for the second part of the 4.2 release.  Afrter that, for 4.3 (scheduled to be the last Sagelight 4 release before I start working on Sagelight 5), I will be working on real-time noise reduction (to be placed in the Power Box) as a pre-cursor to mode advanced, NL Means noise reduction, as well as re-working the UI for the main interface, such as moving the Power Box onto the right-hand side of the screen and making it optionally put into a tab with the quick edit mode.  4.3 also has the second HDR phase scheduled (to complement the CLAHE implementation), as well as a new front-end interface for the LightBlender (which could also use a separate name). <br />
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I have been asked to be more open about what is going on while I am developing, and a developer's blog might be an answer.  At first, it would just be me rambling about what I am working on, but with more detail on the algorithmic issues, and then as it matures with comments, it can start shaping itself into more of how we all shape it together, especially in terms of more input from everyone as it is developed, but also getting out earlier beta versions of the software -- right now, I release beta versions as release candidates, and I have also been asked to find a way to release earlier beta versions. <br />
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Right now, for example, I would talk about how I was going to implement the CLAHE algorithm as something very simplified, where you would just enter the radius and the slope, get the result, and then use it with the other functions in Sagelight.  This is more of the photoshop-way of doing things, because it allows you much more flexibility. <br />
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With the CLAHE results, for example, you can use them on their own, but when you start mixing them in any which way with the blending modes (i.e. Blend Undo Image), such as Soft light, Hard Light, etc., you can get very different results.  More than that, if you create them as a 'difference map' (which is a switch in the CLAHE function), you can do even more with the same lighting modes. <br />
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So, that gets complicated, and starts requiring the same knowledge-base you would need with something like Adobe.  This gets into the heart of why Sagelight does the things it does.   So, I decided to add a fairly sizeable UI to the CLAHE function to do many of the same things you'd do with multiple steps -- where before, you'd have a set of steps like: <br />
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<strong class='bbc'>1.</strong> create CLAHE image.  <br />
<strong class='bbc'>2.</strong> Create Difference Map.  <br />
<strong class='bbc'>3</strong>. Select original image from history state <br />
<strong class='bbc'>4</strong>. Use Soft Light or Hard Light or X mode in the Blend Undo image while necessarily using the curves (which a lot of people don't like, either)... </div><div class='bbc_indent'>now it's all part of the CLAHE routine.</div><br />
If you've ever wondered why I am off in my expected timing sometimes, this is the main reason -- I decide to add much more UI interfacing than I thought of before in order to make it as useable as possible.<br />
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In this particular case, you'll be able to do both -- do many functions you'd normally do in the steps above all in one setting; or use the layer blending, and step-wise approach outlined above. <br />
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For example, here are some results I am getting so far (without the originals)<br />
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<img src='http://sagelighteditor.com/db/4.3/shipwreck.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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Example 1.  More-or-less traditional HDR example.  I used the Dodge and Burn brush afterward to accentuate the details. This one's a little harsh, but that's a first-pass for you.<br />
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<img src='http://sagelighteditor.com/db/4.3/car.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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Example 2.  This image gets into the reason I am implementing the CLAHE as part I of two planned HDR stages.  The other HDR I am going to implement (hopefully in version 4.3, but I might wait for Version 5) is more artistic and soft, and may or may not mix well with your image (that is, it's main intention is image-wide).  I implemented the CLAHE because of the properties it has in generating amazing local contrast and detail in an image, and -- more importantly -- the effect it can have in your image when you mix it with the Undo Brush. </div><div class='bbc_indent'><br />
In the above example, the original CLAHE result as fairly harsh.  As it is with many image-editing concepts, if you perform a function on the entire image, it can look overwhelming.  But, if you back up and selectively perform the same function on an image, you can get very interesting results that, while still photographically realistic, are still a little surreal or just have an artistic quality about them but without being overwhelming. <br />
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For example, if you add a lot of color to your image, it can start looking like those placements at your finer restaurants with highly saturated pictures on them -- that is, they can look artificial.  But, if you just select one part of an image (such as adding color to the foreground, but less to the sky), then it can help bring out a picture -- sometimes it still may look a little less than realistic, but it's not so overdone as to look fake, either. <br />
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This is the same thing with the CLAHE HDR.  I need to generate more examples (which is what the developer's blog would be all about), but the above is just such an example -- I used the Undo Brush to selectively put back pieces of the CLAHE result with varying pressure.  I wanted to highlight the car (to bring out all of the dents) as well as the wood, especially since the yellow of the wood compliments the car.  With this one, I clearly was trying to mix the HDR qualities with the rest of the image to keep a not-so-real look, but to also minimize the overall cartoonoish effect that the CLAHE can give. <br />
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For example:<br />
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<img src='http://sagelighteditor.com/db/4.3/car2.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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Example 3.  Here is a result with the CLAHE mixed with the Soft Glow brush (which is another thing; I know it's currently a little broken, but will be fixed with release 4.2).  It definitely has an artistic look to it, which is fairly representative of artificial HDR.  As I mentioned, the CLAHE is a more aggressive version of the HDR planned for version 4.3 (or 5.0), and it will be interesting to return to this image to see how it is different. <br />
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<img src='http://sagelighteditor.com/db/4.3/river.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
Example 4. This example shows me having way too much fun with the Circle Paint function, mixed with an CLAHE result in the Soft Light mode. <br />
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You may (or may not) recall a video I posted where I mixed the Circle Paint with the Paint Brush in the same way. <br />
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I knew I kept the Circle Paint around for a reason -- by itself, it doesn't have any real amazing qualities, but, for some reason, it is just an amazing tool to blend with different results...  I really couldn't tell you why from a technical point of view. <br />
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The CLAHE is no different.  For some reason, mixing the result with the Circle Paint just gives an amazing watercolor or other painting effect. <br />
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<em class='bbc'><span style='color: #4169e1'>the cat... I have to show you the cat!</span></em><br />
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Other things I would/could talk about, too, are programming issues, such as my day in taking the original CLAHE code I wrote (which I thought was optimized), and working out how to speed it up by at least 2X using SSE3 code  (overall 2x, that is; where the SSE3 optimization speed the specific code upwards of 5-10x over the optimized C++ code) . I know there are a lot of casual and professional programmers out there, so it would be interesting to talk about those things, too, which are outside of the scope of any of the current discussion board items. <br />
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For example, with the above, it was interesting converting it to SSE3 for two reasons: <div class='bbc_indent'><br />
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<strong class='bbc'>1.</strong> The horizontal adding functions really came in handy here, and I wonder how that will affect the SSE2 versions, especially since SSE2 doesn't have any PEXTRD (extract double-word or floating-point value).  This is an interesting caching issue, because this means I will have to go to memory pulls, and I wonder if it will be able to cache it all without every really having to go to memory, except on the cache flush, which should be completely outside the routine.<br />
<strong class='bbc'>2.</strong> The reason I thought the code was optimized was because of how my knowledge of caching architecture has changed.  Nowadays, you really want to have as much as you can in the cache and pipeline.  So, I took these optimized routines and made sure everything was in register space as much as possible -- actually, it's all in register space.  So, I was able to get a 4-5x throughput by moving it out of C++ code and into SSE3 code.  This gets into why assembly language can really make a difference now, more than ever -- even in optimized C++, even if you specified SSE usage, you'd never get the C++ compiler (as good as they are these days) to completely stay in register space.   Even so, with the caching, youd think that the C++ code would still stay in the cache and not go out to system memory until the routine was over, but that doesn't appear to be the case.  Also, I had the loop unrolled before (256 iterations), which was <em class='bbc'>good, solid programming practice a few years ago</em>, but it turns out just having the iterative loop (in assembly anyway) was much faster because the processor had to pull much slower system memory on the unrolled loop, when it could cache the entire sequence and never go to memory while the loop was running -- and the actual loop iteration cycles and cache-dump is no longer an issue with today's processor pipelining, as (since it's a tightly constrained loop) it is already reading the loopback code well before it gets there, acting like an unrolled loop but without the system memory read (making it much faster). </div><br />
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Anyway, things such as the above might make for interesting topics, and get into other subjects that relate to Sagelight or Image Processing and Programming, In general (not to mention the Oxford Comma). <br />
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Let me know what you think.  If nothing else, I at least got to show some creations over the last few days... <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Beta Crash</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/379-beta-crash/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I recently bought a Canon 5D3 and took some high ISO photos (this one was 25600). Since SL does not yet support the 5D3 RAW format, I used the Adobe DNG converter to create a dng file that SL does understand and loaded that image to test the Noise Reduction functionality in SL.<br />
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I adjusted the various controls in Smooth Skin, in both the Smoothness and Color Noise Reduction sections (Radius, Strength, Range in the Smooth Skin section and Range in the Color Noise Reduction section) as well as checking and unchecking the Default/Skin Smoother and Median/Mix/DIffuse checkboxes) to see the effects, and then pressed Preview. App crashed. Here is the info:<br />
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Problem signature:<br />
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH<br />
  Application Name:	beta43.exe<br />
  Application Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Application Timestamp:	4f8668dd<br />
  Fault Module Name:	beta43.exe<br />
  Fault Module Version:	4.2.7.0<br />
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4f8668dd<br />
  Exception Code:	c0000005<br />
  Exception Offset:	00207bee<br />
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3<br />
  Locale ID:	1033<br />
  Additional Information 1:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 2:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
  Additional Information 3:	0a9e<br />
  Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789<br />
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HDR - probably a silly question</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/376-hdr-probably-a-silly-question/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Forgive me for what is probably a very silly question.  There's been a lot of talk recently about 'HDR' functionality in Sagelight.<br />
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The only experience I've had with HDR digital photography involved taking two or more pictures with different exposure levels, and then blending the best bits of each into the final picture.<br />
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Is this what I must do to use the HDR features in Sagelight?  Or are we talking about Sagelight's ability to extract detail from overly-dark or overly-bright parts of a single photo?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Development environment</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/378-development-environment/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Rob,<br />
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What development environment are you using to produce SageLight?  I like to do a little programming myself, and I was interested.<br />
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I don't recognise the UI controls - they don't look like any set I've seen before.  Are they roll-your-own?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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Thack]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>version updates</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/381-version-updates/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob,<br />
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At the moment, if you go to the sagelight about tab, it shows the version installed e.g. version 4.2g(beta). There is no date associated with that version. If you select 'get latest update' you are given no information about the latest version, nor the date from which it was available from the web page to which it links. Just by chance, there was mention of a later version within this forum, but instead of directing to the standard update page, you gave a direct download link. Is this version a beta of a beta, or the same as what I would get if I did the latest update link, or something else? Please, if you are having a system of getting updates, stick with it, and make it obvious which version is the latest, and include release dates. I do not want to jump between a blog, a website, into the bowels of a forum, or facebook to find out when the latest update is available. <br />
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Best wishes,<br />
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Ray]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Sagelight User Workflow Survey</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/355-sagelight-user-workflow-survey/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone,<br />
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Since some of you may not visit the "Developing the Manual" area, I am posting this User Survey here.<br />
<span style='font-size: 21px;'><strong class='bbc'><br />
Sagelight User Survey</strong></span><br />
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Everyone's help will be greatly appreciated in the preparation of the User Guide/Manual. The results of this survey will help new users make the best use of Sagelight. Feel free to copy and paste the survey into your word processor, saving as a Rich Text Editor (.rtf) file. Then please email your completed survey to me at jeanhenderson5@gmail.com. Many thanks to all!<br />
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<span style='font-size: 17px;'>For JPEG originals only</span><br />
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Please indicate, by numbering your choices in consecutive order of your usual workflow (yes, portraits and landscapes would have different orders, but how do YOU usually work?). For example, if you crop your image first, place a “1” on the line beside #2 below; if you adjust saturation next, place a “2” on the line beside #5 below. Continue through the whole list please.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>The first thing I do in Sagelight is:</strong><br />
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1. rotate the image (if needed) ____<br />
2. crop the image ____<br />
3. set white balance ____<br />
4. adjust brightness and contrast ____<br />
5. set color by using the Auto Balance function ____<br />
6. adjust saturation ____<br />
7. adjust the image using Smart Fill Light ____<br />
8. go to the Power Box ____<br />
9. go to masking ____<br />
10. switch from Color Spinner to Color Curves ____<br />
11. bring up the histogram ____<br />
12. go to Smart Light ____<br />
13. open the information window ____<br />
14. open hand drawn curves in RGB mode ____<br />
15. switch to the Tone Curves menu function ____<br />
16. use the Dodge/Burn tool ____<br />
17. use the remove red eye tool ____<br />
18. use the Remove Color Cast tool ____<br />
19. use the Selectively Change the brightness, color or saturation of specific areas of the image tool ____<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Now please list the more advanced functions you use the most.</strong> Kindly list them in the order you would normally follow.<br />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 02:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Thumbnails</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/332-thumbnails/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I have been having trouble getting thumbnails which reflect changes I have made in JPEG images using SageLight. I have deleted the  thumbcache_*.db files in case they weren't being updated by windows, but I am still having problems with some old thumbnails being shown.<br />
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One suggestion was that <br />
<em class='bbc'>some software may fail to recreate the embedded thumbnail when saving the file (and simply copy the original embedded thumbnail to the saved file instead), as a result the thumbnail cache, which relies on the embedded thumbnail when present, keeps using what happens to be an out-of-date version of the embedded thumbnail and creates the Small/Medium cached thumbnails from it, so clearing the thumbnail cache has no effect.<br />
When there is no embedded thumbnail, Small/Medium/Large and Extra-Large cached thumbnails are all made from the full (or preview) image and thus reflect any edits made.</em><br />
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I just wanted to check whether SageLight recreates the embedded thumbnail to reflect the changed image or not after modifying an image. This will help me narrow down where my problem may be.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Bit]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>clone tool</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/380-clone-tool/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if is the correct section, but I'm getting problems with clone tool interface. tab key to select new point seems not to be reliable. Not sure if it is time related - e.g. period of time to regenerate image, or something else. Would it be possible to use, say, right mouse button to reset point. (I've got to sit up straight to reach all the way across to the tab key <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> ).<br />
I've tried the wireworm plugin, but that needs work to reduce the hard edges of the path - adjustable feather and density would help. <br />
Is everybody else finding the clone tool interface works perfectly wrt setting new points?<br />
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Best wishes,<br />
<br />
Ray]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HDR and CLAHE pre-release beta available</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/364-hdr-and-clahe-pre-release-beta-available/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image.png</span></span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/4.3/flower-new.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span></span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><br />
</span></span><span class='bbc_center'><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 21px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>HDR and CLAHE Pre-Release Beta</span></span></span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Hi, everyone. </span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I am back from basically taking a vacation for the last few weeks.   I have been doing development in that time, and have a pre-release beta ready of the next version that includes the HDR and CLAHE functionality. </span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>If you're interested, let me know and I will send you the URL.  This pre-release is not a general release and I am not wanting to talk about it too much so that I can save the major points for the actual release in a couple weeks.</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I will be setting up a private discussion are up for those download the beta.  Any comments would be appreciated, especially since the HDR and CLAHE both ended up being very expansive and useful, to the point of expanding on what was supposed to be one generic function for each CLAHE and HDR implementation, and moving them into 8 different specialized-yet-generic function sets, with another 40 one-shot presets. </span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>To download the beta, you need the following:</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><div class='bbc_indent'><ul class='bbcol decimal'><li><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>1. A license for the 4.0+ release of Sagelight.</span></strong></span></li><li><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>2. A username on the discussion board.</span></strong></span></li><li><span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>3. Send me a note through this discussion board if you're interested, and I will send you the URL and also give you access to the private discussion area. </span></strong></span></li></ul></div><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'> </span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 17px;'>Pre-Release Notes (and some examples)</span></strong></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>1. This release only has the HDR and CLAHE functions in it.  The Lanczos resizing as well as a few other things, such as various bug fixes and the plugin improvements are in another development thread, and I am working to merge all of this in the next couple weeks.</span></strong></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><strong class='bbc'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>2. The intention and usefulness of the HDR and CLAHE routines, and some examples: </span></strong></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>At first, I intended to just implement the CLAHE and then move into the HDR.  But, it was pretty obvious that they shared so much of the same functional base, that I might as well do them both at the same time.    I am glad I did, as I don't think the CLAHE implementation would have come out so nice had I waited with the HDR.  This is because the HDR (aka Range Compression) function set really required a lot of surrounding functions and new algorithms to deal with it properly, especially when wanting to use HDR with single-frame images. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>It is important to know that, while the HDR and CLAHE functionality, as shown below, supports many great effects in the sense of traditional, artificial & artistic HDR, the main reason for putting them into Sagelight was for the purpose of photographic enhancement.  Of course, that can mean many different things to different people; the main thing is that the purpose is to support generating work from the original image and not specifically to create artificial images in nature.  As it turns out, these routines can do this really nicely on a lot of images, so, I supported it with many different options and functions. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>A lot of the new algorithms I developed to support the HDR and CLAHE revolved around color reproduction and halo reduction.  I ended up developing a nice "color recovery" algorithm to recapture colors in the shadows in a lifelike manner (as opposed to the pale or over-saturated result you get depending on whether you're converting back from XYZ or LAB mode, etc.), as well as a number of halo-free tonemapping curves. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>I also developed a generic function set that allows you to augment the HDR (without having to create it and then move back into the Quick Edit Mode) with all of these tools together. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>The main thing here is about halos.  Sagelight hates halos.  But, it is hard to avoid them.  I would say that a very large percentage of the work and length of time in developing the HDR & CLAHE routines were directly related to either avoiding halos or managing them (in the case of CLAHE, as halos are just a part of life with the generic algorithm). </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>The main emphasis for the implementation of the HDR and CLAHE here is along the lines of getting great results, and blending and using partial results via the Undo Brush is a big part of it.  </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>The examples below, for the most part, are blended versions (i.e. as a setting available in the HDR or CLAHE function itself), so that the RAW, harsh result is not used by itself, but mixed with the original image. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>The HDR and CLAHE routines are broken down into a few different function sets.  Here are some examples with descriptions of their basic orientation in the HDR and CLAHE functionality:</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>(these are all generated with the current pre-release.. Today, in fact.  'Before' versions are shown where relevant). </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/flower-new-500s.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(1).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Flower.  Generated with the 'HDR Details' function.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>This image demonstrates the idea of generating details while keeping photorealism.  The end result here was a very defined and colorful image.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/black-and-white-1-new-650s.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(2).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>This image was generated with the "Black and White" HDR function.  The effect of this function is to take a color picture, or pre-existing black and white picture, and create what I can only described as an Ansel-Adams type of black and white pictures: contrasty and well-defined.  In this case, the original color picture was fairly plain.  the HDR/Compression Range function was used to generate great detail, and the other HDR/tone-mapping functions in the HDR function set were used to create the dramatic mood.  A subtle vignette was also added for effect afterwards.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(3).png</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/black-and-white-car-new-650s.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is another example.  In this case, a lighter compression range was used.   This was originally a fairly bright color picture, as well. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(4).png</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/boat-new-650s-both.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Another image where the 'HDR Details' function was used.  It's hard to see the complete different here.  The HDR function added a lot of definition in the clouds as well as the sand and the boat itself.  Also not that the Range Compression (i.e. HDR) function brought down the light on the cabin area.   </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here are the links to the originals, since it is hard to see what is going on in the small thumbnails (these are roughly 3000x4000)</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/boat-org.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/boat-org.jpg</span></a></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/boat-new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/boat-new.jpg</span></a></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(5).png</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/fillbridhr-new-both.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>HDR Fill example. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Another function called "HDR Fill Light & Details" was used for this function.  The HDR function can generate fill areas throughout the entire image without any halos (or very light ones in extreme cases).  While the fill light and Light Blender functions in Sagelight, as presented, are very useful, the HDR Fill can get into more areas without either generating halos of light areas or keeping the edges shadowy.  With the color-recovery algorithm implemented in the HDR routines, the color comes up very naturally instead of washed out. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(6).png</span></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/circlebridge-new-650s-both.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is another example.  This turns out to be a very challenging example because it is very susceptible to halos.  In this case, the HDR Fill function was able to bring out the light with no halos.   Note: you may see a small halo in the middle-right.  This was already there, and another reminder for me what happens when I grab images from Flickr that already have been worked on and have halos. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is the full-sized result: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/circlebridge-new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/circlebridge-new.jpg</a></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/fillarch-new-650s-both.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(7).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is another example where I used the "HDR Fill Light & Details" function and purposely added more range compression to bring out the details.  As all other examples, the original source (for me, anyway) was a medium-level-compressed 8-bit per-channel JPEG image.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(8).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is a full-on, artificial/artistic HDR result.  This was also done with the HDR Details function with aggressive settings.  This can also be done in the 'Artistic HDR' function as well. </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/hdr-bike-new-650s.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>CLAHE</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here are a couple CLAHE examples.  The CLAHE is also a very powerful function, and these examples show a very small example of its overall capabilities:</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/circlebridge-new-clahe-650s.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(9).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is the same bridge image from above.  With the CLAHE it came out brighter and without any halos (except the ones that were already present in the original).  This has much less to do with the CLAHE (as the actual result has significant haloing) and more to do with the Tonemapping mask curves implemented in the HDR and CLAHE functions. (I purposely made this one a little more colorful as a CLAHE setting).</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><img src='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/clahe-truck-new-650s-both.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span><br />
<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>file:///C:/Users/ROBASU~1/AppData/Local/Temp/enhtmlclip/Image(10).png</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Here is a before and after example.  This shows how nicely the CLAHE can work within an image when it is blended back into the image (in this case with just a slider movement).  The result image has much more definition.  It ended up with a lot more color too, which is something you can control (I decided to leave the color in to add a small artistic element to it). </span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>As with some other examples, the effect is hard to see.  Here is the full-sized result that really shows off the enhanced definition: <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/clahe-truck-new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/clahe-truck-new.jpg</a></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Also, another image that didn't make it (because I forgot to upload the resized images), an HDR result (an abandoned escalator):  <a href='http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/hdr-escalator-new.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.sagelighteditor.com/db/hdrbeta/hdr-escalator-new.jpg</a></span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Conclusion</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>That's about it for now.  The above represents a fair idea of what the HDR and CLAHE functions can do, but are also hardly comprehensive.  There are also 35+ "one-shot" HDR and CLAHE functions where you can do many different effects (photographic and otherwise) with some control, but without having to get into many controls.  You can also use the main HDR and CLAHE control panel where you can change any setting and do much more.</span></span><br />
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<span style='font-family: Tahoma'><span style='font-size: 13px;'>Well, let me know what you think.  If you're interested in trying it out, please let me know -- I would appreciate the feedback, especially as I write the documentation.  There are quite a few uses for the HDR and CLAHE and knowing what you want to do with them would make them so much better.</span></span><br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Vivesa 2 Plugin</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was working, now I can only get the global part of it to work. If I try to use the add control point feature, Sagelight crashes. My Topaz plugins work just fine? I've tried reinstalling Vivesa but that didn't help?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>ICC monitor profiles through the Editor or through Windows?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've been researching the issue of monitor profiles. <br />
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First, it is important to calibrate your monitor, and this is usually -- but not always -- done through an ICC monitor profile these days.  A few short years ago, you would calibrate your monitor by looking at some graphic images on the screen and also by using a grayscale card that might be supplied with your monitor. <br />
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Today, much more sophisticated methods exist to get the exact color you're specifying on the screen.  For example, if you specify red, it should be an exact color wavelength, where monitors out of the box sometimes display a little to the left or right (more magenta or orange).  Even at a small, indiscernible level, small offsets in color can really cause headaches when printing your image or putting it on the web. <br />
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One of the best examples I came across was when I was in Hawaii and I posted a number of pictures I took and edited on the web.   Everything look great to me, and I was pleased with the result.  <br />
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When I got back home to my nicely calibrated monitor, these pictures were the ugliest things I had ever seen -- they were all tinted a very dark, awful yellow.  This is because my portable's monitor shifted everything blue and had a bright gamma curve. <br />
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Before the last few years, the monitor calibration issue (when used through an ICC profile, which is the norm today) would be handled by giving the ICC profile to your image editor. <br />
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Sagelight was written only three years ago, and it follows the new philosophy of letting the operating system handle it, for some good reasons: <br />
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1.  If you're using an ICC monitor profile when editing to correct monitor color & contrast problems, this means the rest of the world you are seeing (especially the web) is not right.   When the OS takes care of it, everything you see is correct. <br />
2. When you're only seeing the image you're editing in correct color, this can cause you to skew your results.  For example, my portable that goes blue.. .All editors have gray areas surrounding the image (black isn't good because it adds too much contrast).  The gray areas are specifically gray -- have you ever noticed that editors don't have color stylings on the edges?) -- because if there were a color for the borders, you'd skew your pictures in the opposite direction.  So, if you're editing through an ICC profile, your gray in the editor is now going to be a different color (based on the monitor error), causing you to potentially skew your pictures.  For example, if the gray goes a little magenta, this will lead you to want to move your pictures to the green to compensate.  It's just how our eyes work.  So, it's better to have the entire area of the monitor working through the ICC profile. <br />
3. Dual Monitors.  This is more an more common, and working with a dual monitor setup is problematic if your editor is handling the monitor profile. </div><br />
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On the other side, are the following issues: <br />
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1. I am not completely sure Windows is handling the ICC monitor profile issue completely correctly.  It would be great to hear what your experiences are. <br />
2. Some  people -- who are also coincidentally the vocal ones -- still prefer to work specifically with the ICC monitor profile in the editor vs. with Windows.  Is this old-style thinking, or is there a reason for this? <br />
3. Products like Lightroom -- which was around earlier than Sagelight -- will grab your default monitor profile and use it to display your image.  But, this also causes problems with two things: <br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'><div class='bbc_indent'>	a) dual monitors.  Grabbing the default monitor profile and using it causes the profile to only be useful on the primary monitor, when many people edit on two monitors, or use a secondary monitor (i.e. when the primary is a laptop). </div><div class='bbc_indent'>    b) double profiling.   Sometimes this can be an issue when Windows is using the ICC profile at the same time.  This is probably more of a Windows issue, but when this happens it can be difficult to figure out why images constantly appear one way in your editor and another way in other places. </div></div><div class='bbc_indent'>4. Windows XP.   I am not sure whether Windows XP is an issue here, as I am not sure whether some patch to Windows XP has updated into using monitor profiles are the OS level, or perhaps it's always supported it and technology in monitors has come far enough along to make it reasonable. </div><br />
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These are the things I am looking at when making my decision about support. <br />
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The trend really suggests I don't need to worry about it, but there has been a vocal minority asking me about this, and I am still deciding whether that's an old-school item I should move past or there are still some compelling reasons.  In terms of just supporting it anyway, I guess I could.  But, as I found with supporting non-SSE2 computers, i.e. MMX only  (which Sagelight no longer does), being able to focus on the new way of things -- where appropriate -- really does make the software better.  Now, for example, I can write all algorithms with SSE2+ in mind, which allows me to go places algoritmically (spelling) where I would otherwise sacrifice a little speed and quality to support non-SSE2 computers, which at this point is a very small set. <br />
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Anyway, I just thought I'd put all of this out here and it would be great to get your experiences and opinions. <br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 06:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Poll: How many people edit just for the Web &#38; Computer but don't typically Print their pictures?]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, everyone. <br />
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I am doing some research for the next couple releases, and I am wondering how many people generally edit for the web or personal computer usage (screensavers, electronic picture frames, etc.) but don't print on a regular basis.  I mean to say, if you print here and there, that is one thing, but I am interested in whether you edit your images for print more on a regular basis, or edit your images for any form of computerized/live display on a regular basis. <br />
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Let me know!<br />
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P.S. you may have to be logged in to vote.  But, I am most interested in the answers.  If you can't vote, you can put something on the Facebook page (www.facebook.com/SageEdit) or send me a personal e-mail at rob@sagelighteditor.com.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>A Challenge</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
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I thought I would set a bit of a challenge, so you can try to prove for yourself how wonerful Sagelight can be.<br />
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I've posted one of my images here www.yertiz.com/pic1204/_MG_4602orig.jpg<br />
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It is a jpeg just under 1.5mB in size. I tried posting the raw file, but 'twer a bit big, and I got bored with it uploading.<br />
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I've also posted a smaller image at www.yertiz.com/pic1204/_MG_4602s.jpg the result of a couple of minutes of editing the original in another image editor.<br />
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The challenge is for you to use only Sagelight to get from the original to the result I've shown. Note the steps you take, and the time taken.<br />
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The real challenge is to get from the original to something worthwhile, (go crazy) or even to showroom condition, as it was back in 1972.<br />
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This is not a competition, just something you can try for personal satisfaction, and to generate some discussion.<br />
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(You'll have to gut and paste links into your browser, and drag images to your desktop/whatever.)<br />
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Have fun<br />
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Best wishes,<br />
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Ray]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Adding Retinex to HDR in current release (in beta)</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/387-adding-retinex-to-hdr-in-current-release-in-beta/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone<br />
<br />
As you know, one of the major items of the current release (now in beta, just about to be released) is a number of HDR tools, including Range Compression (typically called an 'HDR' tool for reasons discussed in other threads) and  CLAHE (which, to my mind, is completely underrated -- more about that in another thread), with varying degrees of use from the purely photographic to more effect-based results. <br />
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Since I've added all of this infrastructure, I took a look at Retinex. <br />
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As I implement it, it would be great to get your comments and thoughts about it.   Retinex is a popular "HDR" algorithm out there, and I think it could be useful in the 'Creative HDR' genre. There are some pretty interesting uses for it, especially when you add subsequent functionality to it (which the current Sagelight HDR functional set does).  <br />
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<br />
 At first, I didn't want to put it in, for a couple reasons:<br />
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1. <strong class='bbc'>On its own, Retinex is purely for effect</strong> -- there are no photographic reasons I can find to use it.  If you're doing interesting effects, or even forensics, Retinex seems pretty useful.  Since Sagelight is more about keeping it photographically real, at least on the top level, I wasn't sure about putting it in.  That last part, put in another way, is that everything I add to Sagelight, I want to make sure it has a photographic basis to it (forgetting the 'effects' menu, for a moment), and then use those same properties to extend it into the more creative effects that can be obtained from them.  For example, the HDR/CLAHE functions can be used in both ways. <br />
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2. <strong class='bbc'>Retinex generates Halos.</strong>  Lots of them, and that it kind of a standard characteristics to a lot of 'HDR' results these days.  I hate halos, and so does Sagelight.  Sometimes halos happen, and they are hard to avoid, and I have put a host of halo-reducing & avoiding algorithms in Sagelight. With the Retinex algorithm, significant halos are part of the territory, and I was also reluctant to add Retinex just for this reason. </div><br />
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<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Why I added Retinex</span></span><br />
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I ended up adding Retinex for a few reasons. <br />
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1.<strong class='bbc'> Retinex generates interesting results, especially when controlled</strong>.  With some care, the results with Retinex can be very interesting.  When blended with the image (which is included in the current HDR function set of Sagelight), the results can be very nice. <br />
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2. <strong class='bbc'>Photographic & Shadow-Fill possibilities with Retinex</strong>.  With Sagelight's new tonemapped-based masking functions, the properties of the Retinex result can be managed to be photographically real.  Plus, the Retinex algorithm has great light-filling properties -- on its own, Retinex brightens the shadows at the expense of the rest of the image.  But with the masking and clipping controls in the current Sagelight HDR functions, the Retinex results can be managed to bring out some really nice possibilities.<br />
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3. <strong class='bbc'>Some other reasons for adding Retinex</strong>.  I'm seeing some other possibilities, such as with more forensic elements, in the way Retinex can bring out details (i.e. it may kill the photographic properties, but it can really bring out some detail that is otherwise hidden).  Also, all of the Retinex implementations I've seen use three channels (R, G, B ).  In my testing and experience, this is not nearly as nice as working with the C*I*E LAB-based grayscale version, and then working the colors back in.   While the 3-color method can produce some nice results, they are typically blueish or the colors don't otherwise work well except for pure effect (or on the rare occasion where the 3-channel Retinex method has coincidentally color-balanced the image).  Sagelight's implementation works on the C*I*E LAB/perceptual grayscale principle, and I am finding more compelling results that could be more useful overall.   Not to say some implementations don't already do this; I just haven't seen any in my limited research.<br />
</div><div class='bbc_indent'>Another reason I added it is that Retinex can be an interesting preamble to using the HDR Details or CLAHE function.  You might get some halos, but the effects using HDR/CLAHE on a image passed through the Retinex function can be nice, even if little typically 'HDR'-looking due to halos.</div><br />
<span style='font-size: 15px;'><span style='color: #0000ff'>Your Thoughts</span></span><br />
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Anyway, I thought I'd just put this out there, since I am adding it today and tomorrow.  It would be great to get some thoughts on people already familiar with Retinex to get even more ideas as I go along!<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Organizing the Manual, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/348-organizing-the-manual-part-2/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone,<br />
<br />
I've been going a little nuts trying to figure out how to proceed from where I began this effort. Exisitng documentation, such as it is, is in <span style='color: #0000FF'>TOO MANY PLACES. SO</span>, what I decided on was to go to the full Sage Image Editor Forum for the purpose of finding what is already there (in a very general way ATM). What follows is a cut and paste <span style='color: #0000FF'>ONLY OF TOPICS AND EXISTING TUTORIALS</span> from that forum. There is <span style='color: #0000FF'>NO ORGANIZATION TO IT FOR THE TIME BEING.</span><br />
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What I would ask of all those who are interested is quite simple. Read and review the entries -- there are almost three complete pages in word processing. Take notes as you go about what you think <span style='color: #0000FF'>MIGHT BE LEFT OUT</span>. <br />
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<span style='color: #0000FF'>PLEASE THEN ADD A REPLY TO THIS THREAD -- NOT OF CONTENT PER SE -- ONLY OF TOPICS/SUBJECTS/MAJOR QUESTION UNANSWERED</span> as you might remember from your own learning curve experiences.<br />
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<span style='color: #0000FF'>WHAT FOLLOWS, THEN, IS THE THREE PAGES OF CONTENT MINUS SUCH THINGS AS "HOUSEKEEPING" KINDS OF QUESTIONS. <br />
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ENJOY!!!</span> (No, I'm not yelling, just trying to add some visual clues to grab your attention.)<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>Skin Tones</strong> I can't figure out.<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Masks and Cloning</strong> Cliff<br />
<strong class='bbc'>DNG's and re-edting</strong> images<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Tweaking your Toys Sensor</strong> <br />
<span class='bbc_underline'><em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>Getting the Most out of Sagelight</strong></em></span><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Microsoft HD View</strong><br />
Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>resizing</strong> <br />
How do I write out <strong class='bbc'>original size images</strong>?<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Disappearing plugins</strong> <br />
Where did my Topaz <strong class='bbc'>plugins</strong> go?<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Auto-Balancing</strong> <br />
Usually get funky colors from most <strong class='bbc'>balancing options</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Subtracting or Difference</strong> <br />
Need to <strong class='bbc'>subtract one 16-bit</strong> (48) from another.<br />
The Difference Between the <strong class='bbc'>Fast DOF and Bokeh Functions</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>How to make a grey sky into a blue sky?</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Masking</strong> question <br />
What <strong class='bbc'>adjustments can be made when masking </strong><br />
Brush size <strong class='bbc'>keyboard shortcut</strong> <br />
Plugins <br />
<strong class='bbc'>What plugins can be used</strong> with Sagelight?<br />
Sagelight & <strong class='bbc'>Image Doctor 2</strong> <br />
Wonderful <strong class='bbc'>examples gallery</strong> of Sagelight edited picture<br />
Sagelight for <strong class='bbc'>Black and White</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Video tutorials</strong><br />
Can 16-bit files be <strong class='bbc'>used with layers</strong>?? <br />
features<br />
Sagelight Blog: A Couple Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>Bokeh Examples</strong> Submitted by Pat Autrey<br />
Sagelight Blog: <strong class='bbc'>Bokeh Tutorial Video</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>fill</strong> with 50 percent red - <strong class='bbc'>then what</strong>?<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Differences With Sagelight</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Mouse wheel</strong> (and right click) <br />
Suggestions for a better <strong class='bbc'>scroll and zoom</strong><br />
Sagelight plugin question <br />
<strong class='bbc'>Wire Worm</strong><br />
Some <strong class='bbc'>"painting"</strong> in Sagelight<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Questions from a Sagelight Newbie</strong><br />
Will there be a Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>affiliate program</strong>?<br />
Sagelight Blog: Introduction to Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>Bokeh & Lens Blur Video</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Working with <strong class='bbc'>Local Areas: Masking and the Undo Brush</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Sagelight Pro Series: <strong class='bbc'>Pro Saturation Function</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Introduction to Sagelight Bokeh & Lens Blur Video #2: Showing the <strong class='bbc'>Highlight Mask and More Creative Elements</strong><br />
Entering <strong class='bbc'>Text</strong> <br />
Correct <strong class='bbc'>chromatic aberrations</strong> in Sagelight?<br />
Sagelight Blog: Video Tutorial, Sagelight Pro Series: <strong class='bbc'>Curves</strong> in the Quick Edit Mode and Pro Quick Edit Mode.<br />
<strong class='bbc'>High pass filter</strong> tutorial?<br />
Sagelight Blog: <strong class='bbc'>Interactive Quick Reference</strong> Help<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Filters</strong> <br />
Polarizing<br />
<span class='bbc_underline'><em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>Old version of Sagelight still a favorite on Gizmo's Freeware</strong></em></span><br />
Sagelight Blog: A Great example of <strong class='bbc'>48-Bit Editing vs. 24-Bit Editing</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Photosynth</strong> <br />
3d pano<br />
Good news on the <strong class='bbc'>RAW browser front</strong> <br />
There is a service pack you can download for Windows 7 & Vista<br />
<strong class='bbc'>White Balance Controls</strong><br />
Question on Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>color management</strong> on dpreview<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Post Processing</strong> - great examples<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Layers and blending</strong> matters... <br />
<strong class='bbc'>Auto levels</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Cross processing</strong> in Sagelight<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Effects</strong> tutorials<br />
Combine images to <strong class='bbc'>control contrast</strong>? <br />
<strong class='bbc'>Combining images</strong> in PSE is simple. How can I do this in Sagelight?<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Vignette variant</strong> ideas<br />
<strong class='bbc'>Opening</strong> Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>from DAM aplication </strong><br />
Switching to <strong class='bbc'>highligt recovery</strong><br />
Workflow, <strong class='bbc'>Spot Healing</strong>, Wire Worm, other stuff <br />
split from: "<strong class='bbc'>Square Vignette (vs. Round</strong>)<br />
Changing the Shape of the <strong class='bbc'>Circle/Ellipse in the Vignette</strong> Controls <br />
This came up in elsewhere, but it's worth discussing it separately<br />
Square Vignette (vs. Round)<br />
More Than just <strong class='bbc'>Dodge & Burn</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Tilt Shift</strong> help<br />
Sagelight Blog: <strong class='bbc'>Power Curves</strong>: Using HSL <strong class='bbc'>Color Space</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Video Tutorials Posted in the Sagelight <strong class='bbc'>Example Gallery</strong><br />
Correction of <strong class='bbc'>high-contrast photos</strong> <br />
Sagelight Blog: Just a <strong class='bbc'>Simple Vignette</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Working with <strong class='bbc'>Jpeg vs. RAW</strong>: do you lose too much?<br />
Sagelight Blog: More Support with <strong class='bbc'>C*I*E LAB Color Space</strong> in version 4.1.5 (and the deal with <strong class='bbc'>LAB Color Space</strong> in the first place)<br />
Sagelight Blog: B/W & Color <strong class='bbc'>Tone Blender</strong>: Part I (Introduction)<br />
is there a way to fix something like this <br />
<strong class='bbc'>retouching spots</strong> out <strong class='bbc'>enmasse</strong><br />
You can sign in with <strong class='bbc'>Facebook, too</strong><br />
<strong class='bbc'>Welcome</strong> <br />
<strong class='bbc'>Welcome to the discussion board</strong>. Some important information inside.<br />
Sagelight Blog: Introducing the <strong class='bbc'>LightBlender Part II</strong> — Using the LightBlender <strong class='bbc'>(Simple mode)</strong><br />
Sagelight Blog: Introducing the <strong class='bbc'>LightBlender – Part I</strong> (a look at the LightBlender)<br />
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<span style='color: #FF00FF'>THANKS TO ALL WHO TAKE PART IN THIS!</span><br />
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Jean]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Drag and Drop Support</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/392-drag-and-drop-support/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, Sagelight appears to fail to support the Windows standard of Drag and Drop.<br />
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Open Sagelight, and what you see is a window with the black splash screen. Drag an image onto that window and nothing happens.<br />
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Bob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 02:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tiff file problems</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/399-tiff-file-problems/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rob.<br />
I've been doing a lot of HDR panoramas of the AZ mountains, using the open-source stitcher, Hugin, from sourceforge. I've been using Sagelight without problem with it's TIFF output for some time. I just learned that Hugin also supports taking .hdr files as input, rather than my using Photomatix to tonemap to TIFFs, and feeding those to Hugin. (Interestingly, Hugin does a better job of tonemapping than I have been able to!)<br />
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So, I started doing that last night, and got great output, previewed and editable in XnView and Photoline, but Sagelight either refuses to open them, or I get pink static overlayed with alternating colored vertical stripes. I note that they use LZW compression, so I saved them as uncompressed in photoline, but still no go. I've attached a screenshot from XnView for file details. Let me know if there's any other info I can provide, or diag I might do.<br />
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Thanks, Tony. (Tonch)<br />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 04:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Mulling either &#34;Mongo&#34; option or &#34;advanced toolset declaration&#34;...]]></title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/404-mulling-either-mongo-option-or-advanced-toolset-declaration/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Everyone.<br />
<br />
I've recently started removing a whole lot of controls from the non-"pro options" toolsets.  This makes a lot of sense, and much of it has been based on how Sagelight has evolved -- that is, pure empirical data. <br />
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For example, the Smart Contrast in the Power Box doesn't <em class='bbc'>need</em> the radius slider.  It's useful and will remain in the Pro Options set, but will be removed from the standard interface.  The same can be said for the radius sliders in the Definition are of the Power Box (making room to add some things, too, such as a "Focus" slider to bring it out more in the forefront, as it is hidden now). <br />
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With the new functions, such as the CLAHE, HDR, and so-forth, after going through the beta, I've decided to really scale down the non-pro options.  I think this works better, allowing focus on the main controls. <br />
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On the other hand, this also means that when you press the "Pro options", a *lot* of new controls come up.  This can be intimidating for those who press it casually or just want to move into a step above..<br />
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I'm thinking of a couple ways to handle this, and was wondering what you think:<br />
<br />
1. A 3-tiered setup, where you have the standard controls, "Pro Controls", and a mongo set of controls (called something.. not sure, but basically "super pro controls", if you will), that come up..... <br />
2. I am also thinking about setting a "Advanced" mode in the Settings menu.  This means that when you press any "Pro Options" button, it will come up with a box telling you that you need to declare that you want these controls by setting the "advanced mode" in the settings... Or some way of basically letting you know you're going to see a lot more power, and to keep people from getting overwhelmed. <br />
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Well, just some ideas to a) keep it simple and <img src='http://www.sagelightforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> get the power out in a way that makes sense.<br />
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Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>A thought about more RAW browsing support</title>
		<link>http://www.sagelightforum.com/index.php?/topic/203-a-thought-about-more-raw-browsing-support/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[In a discussion thread, more than one person noted that they use an external browser for RAW images. <br />
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Now that Microsoft supports RAW browsing, at least to a fair extent, it has made me think about other options until I can get in what I really want to do with RAW browsing.  I was looking at other programs today to get a refresher on the subject and really do believe it is a project of its own -- it basically has to be its own product-level entity to be what I am looking for.  This means it is not trivial and will take a while. <br />
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But, I was thinking about other browsers.   I downloaded XnView (though Faststone would be fine here, too -- they both have their advantages and disadvantages; FastStone is clearly faster because it multi-threads better, where XnView has more ease-of-access to and shows more information) and looked at the idea of supporting it directly. <br />
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I think I can do that fairly easily.  All you would have to do is to set your external browser preference in the settings -- that is, set a path to whatever browser you want to use. <br />
Then, when you selected "Load Raw Image" from the Sagelight menu (from which you could load any type of image, actually, not just RAW) and it would launch your preferred viewer. <br />
After that, you select what you want in the viewer and then choose "Edit with Sagelight" (after you do a one-time set up in that viewer to set Sagelight as an external application). <br />
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I can put the logic into Sagelight to receive a message when you've decided to transfer it to Sagelight.  Instead of opening a new session, it will just load it for you (since it close any image you had in memory when you selected to load with a RAW browser).<br />
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But, more than that, you would be able to just run the other browser as a separate process without telling Sagelight what you're doing.  If Sagelight is already in memory it will pick up on it and just automatically load the file into memory, as long as the current file doesn't need to be saved (for which it will prompt you). <br />
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Anyway, it seems like it could integrate very well and it might be a nice way to add even more RAW browsing functionality. <br />
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My current thought is to add that functionality over the next week and then to specifically support XnView (I have to choose one, and XnView seems to be the most overall well-rounded one I've seen that fits in with Sagelight) through html pages and other documentation to make it easy to for people to get and install. <br />
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Any thoughts?<br />
<br />
Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 07:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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